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Is marijuana a drug or food?

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  • Food

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“And God said, “See, I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of all the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed; to you it shall be for food.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭1:29‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Cannabis-sativa or marijuana is classified as an angiosperm, meaning a seed-bearing plant. This by biblical definition means cannabis is food.

“Now the Spirit expressly says that in latter times some will depart from the faith, giving heed to deceiving spirits and doctrines of demons, speaking lies in hypocrisy, having their own conscience seared with a hot iron, forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from foods which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.”
‭‭I Timothy‬ ‭4:1-3‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

The word “drug” is a word used for cannabis that tells us it is “not good to eat.” Later in this same chapter Paul insists that Timothy teach these things to everyone (verse 11).

A common argument is, what about poisonous plants, or what about opium? Poppy plants are angiosperms so does that mean that is good to eat? Not so fast..

““Do not drink wine or intoxicating drink, you, nor your sons with you, when you go into the tabernacle of meeting, lest you die. It shall be a statute forever throughout your generations, that you may distinguish between holy and unholy, and between unclean and clean,”
‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭10:9-10‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

We are being formed into a kingdom of priests that will reign on the earth (Revelation 5:9-10) and so it is our job to distinguish what is holy (acceptable to us) and unholy (not acceptable). Jesus, our Messiah, paved the way.

“they gave Him sour wine mingled with gall to drink. But when He had tasted it, He would not drink.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭27:34‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Gall is understood to be a type of opiate that was given to ease the pain. At His crucifixion He refused, clarifying not all plants with seed are good to eat.

But for those who believe..

“You love righteousness and hate wickedness; Therefore God, Your God, has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭45:7‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Cannabis is commonly consumed in the form of oils or waxes

“Let God arise, Let His enemies be scattered; Let those also who hate Him flee before Him. As smoke is driven away, So drive them away; As wax melts before the fire, So let the wicked perish at the presence of God.”
‭‭Psalms‬ ‭68:1-2‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

“Therefore, if you died with Christ from the basic principles of the world, why, as though living in the world, do you subject yourselves to regulations— “Do not touch, do not taste, do not handle,” which all concern things which perish with the using—according to the commandments and doctrines of men?”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:20-22‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
 

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Ge:1:29:
And God said,
Behold,
I have given you every herb bearing seed,
which is upon the face of all the earth,
and every tree,
in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed;
to you it shall be for meat.

Weed became illegal when it became competition to DuPont products.
Better question, is opium a 'herb'?
Northern Europe has many poppy fields, and they export seeds only so the opium is for the elite in Northern Europe:
Opium Throughout History | The Opium Kings | FRONTLINE | PBS
c.3400 B.C. The opium poppy is cultivated in lower Mesopotamia. The Sumerians refer to it as Hul Gil, the 'joy plant.' The Sumerians would soon pass along the plant and its euphoric effects to the Assyrians. The art of poppy-culling would continue from the Assyrians to the Babylonians who in turn would pass their knowledge onto the Egyptians.
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Opium disappears for two hundred years from European historical record. Opium had become a taboo subject for those in circles of learning during the Holy Inquisition. In the eyes of the Inquisition, anything from the East was linked to the Devil.

That is when the bankers in Northern Europe started the Christian Reformation Wars, making opium something only the Bankers and European Royalty could afford took it away from 'Commoners' and the profits financed the wars against honest Roman Merchants.
 
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Ge:1:29:
And God said,
Behold,
I have given you every herb bearing seed,
which is upon the face of all the earth,
and every tree,
in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed;
to you it shall be for meat.

Weed became illegal when it became competition to DuPont products.
Better question, is opium a 'herb'?
Northern Europe has many poppy fields, and they export seeds only so the opium is for the elite in Northern Europe:
Opium Throughout History | The Opium Kings | FRONTLINE | PBS
c.3400 B.C. The opium poppy is cultivated in lower Mesopotamia. The Sumerians refer to it as Hul Gil, the 'joy plant.' The Sumerians would soon pass along the plant and its euphoric effects to the Assyrians. The art of poppy-culling would continue from the Assyrians to the Babylonians who in turn would pass their knowledge onto the Egyptians.
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1300's
Opium disappears for two hundred years from European historical record. Opium had become a taboo subject for those in circles of learning during the Holy Inquisition. In the eyes of the Inquisition, anything from the East was linked to the Devil.

That is when the bankers in Northern Europe started the Christian Reformation Wars, making opium something only the Bankers and European Royalty could afford took it away from 'Commoners' and the profits financed the wars against honest Roman Merchants.

If you eat a certain mushroom that grows in Montana, your body’s organs may shut down resulting in a coma or death. I saw it happen on a survivor reality TV show..

The opium euphoria does not last. Addicts kept upping their heroin doses trying to get higher until they overdosed and died.

Hallucinating on marijuana resulted in lower test scores and impaired career opportunities.

“Marijuana use during adolescence and young adulthood may harm the developing brain. Negative effects of teen marijuana use include: Difficulty thinking and problem-solving. Problems with memory and learning. (CDC, Sep 8, 2021)”
Teens | Health Effects | Marijuana | CDC
 
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Chronic marijuana usage has been linked to symptoms of psychosis, wherein the user loses the ability to discern reality. Marijuana is a neurotoxin.

Could you please cite a reference for Marijuana bring a neurotoxin? Their is much research that says contrary to what you just said.

To anyone else quoting science to support your case…

“Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Israel has 70-years of research (funded by the United States and others) that show cannabis is safe for medicinal use.

What did Jesus say about food?

“So He said to them, “Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?””
‭‭Mark‬ ‭7:18-19‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Important to build your house on the rock (the Word) and not on sand (pulverized pieces of the Word with private interpretations.)

“If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.”
‭‭I Timothy‬ ‭6:3-5‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
 
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So what's with the questions and the selective quoting of Scripture? Are you trying to reason that cannabis is a food rather than a drug? Is this to justify your own use?

These days it's most definitely a powerful drug and is manufactured as such - either legally or illegally. Think of the selective breeding that has affected most, if not all seed strains, resulting in levels of THC that are far higher than they were even 30 years ago. Now we even have strains that have been engineered to produce mostly CBD, with very little THC.
The point is: these changes have been bred into cannabis not for nutritional value, but for medicinal value.
 
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So what's with the questions and the selective quoting of Scripture? Are you trying to reason that cannabis is a food rather than a drug? Is this to justify your own use?

These days it's most definitely a powerful drug and is manufactured as such - either legally or illegally. Think of the selective breeding that has affected most, if not all seed strains, resulting in levels of THC that are far higher than they were even 30 years ago. Now we even have strains that have been engineered to produce mostly CBD, with very little THC.
The point is: these changes have been bred into cannabis not for nutritional value, but for medicinal value.

As stated in original post this is because the scripture specifically says to teach these things about food.
 
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Cannabis-sativa or marijuana is classified as an angiosperm, meaning a seed-bearing plant. This by biblical definition means cannabis is food.
Then so is deadly nightshade. Bon apetit!
 
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Could you please cite a reference for Marijuana bring a neurotoxin? Their is much research that says contrary to what you just said.

To anyone else quoting science to support your case…

“Beware lest anyone cheat you through philosophy and empty deceit, according to the tradition of men, according to the basic principles of the world, and not according to Christ.”
‭‭Colossians‬ ‭2:8‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Israel has 70-years of research (funded by the United States and others) that show cannabis is safe for medicinal use.

What did Jesus say about food?

“So He said to them, “Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?””
‭‭Mark‬ ‭7:18-19‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

Important to build your house on the rock (the Word) and not on sand (pulverized pieces of the Word with private interpretations.)

“If anyone teaches otherwise and does not consent to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which accords with godliness, he is proud, knowing nothing, but is obsessed with disputes and arguments over words, from which come envy, strife, reviling, evil suspicions, useless wranglings of men of corrupt minds and destitute of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain. From such withdraw yourself.”
‭‭I Timothy‬ ‭6:3-5‬ ‭NKJV‬‬
Organized crime might tell you cannabis is safe. Scientific research proved marijuana use leads to memory loss:
Hippocampal Neurotoxicity of Δ9-Tetrahydrocannabinol

Marijuana is approved for terminally ill patients requiring pain relief in some nations. This is not the same as declaring it healthy.
 
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Negative effects of teen marijuana use include: Difficulty thinking and problem-solving. Problems with memory and learning. (CDC, Sep 8, 2021)”
Like the mainstream media

Think of the selective breeding that has affected most, if not all seed strains, resulting in levels of THC that are far higher than they were even 30 years ago.
So harmful like other GMO's? And what is the purpose and who benefits in turning it from a 'joy plant' into a sedative? Isn't playing with gain of function with viruses enough for them to pursue?

Now we even have strains that have been engineered to produce mostly CBD, with very little THC.
And this is bad how, considering CBD oil usually comes from a cousin non psychoactive plant usually called industrial hemp.

Marijuana is approved for terminally ill patients requiring pain relief in some nations. This is not the same as declaring it healthy.
Interesting how pharmaceutical patented painkillers such as Codeine, Fentanyl, Hydrocodone, Hydromorphone, Morphine, Oxycodone, Tramadol, etc are ok but an unpatentable poppy plant is not. Interesting how pharmaceutical patented sedatives such as lorazepam, promethazine, pentobarbital, etc are ok but an unpatentable cannabis plant is not.
 
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Interesting how pharmaceutical patented painkillers such as Codeine, Fentanyl, Hydrocodone, Hydromorphone, Morphine, Oxycodone, Tramadol, etc are ok but an unpatentable poppy plant is not. Interesting how pharmaceutical patented sedatives such as lorazepam, promethazine, pentobarbital, etc are ok but an unpatentable cannabis plant is not.
A patent may last 20 years. I do not use any of the legal pain killers or sedatives you listed. The lung damage from smoking marijuana or tobacco resulted in the premature death of many. Neurotoxic alcohol is not patented. It is the cause of so much premature dementia, memory loss and total wreckage. The Bacardi family made billions selling it. The pain went away for awhile. The damage was not discovered until later.
 
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I can see pros and cons of the plant.

My wife tried an ointment made of CDC and delta 8 THC (Delta 9 is what we commonly refer to as marijuana while Delta 8 has been federally legal since 2018 as long as it comes from hemp).

The ointment doesn't hit the blood and doesn't cause you to get "high", but it does help her inflammation and pain (she's trying to put off surgery).

That said, Delta 8 does come in edibles which gets you "high" and tests positive for marijuana on most tests.

I'd compare it to an opioid in that it can be a useful medication, but also has a potential for abuse. I guess the main difference is it isn't physically adictive.

The pro is there may be benefiting medications derived from the plant. The cons are some will use it recreationally.

I've never tried any illegal drug. I tried my wife's cream once because I was skeptical. I have bad knees and a bad back. It worked, temporarily relieving pain (about 8 hours).

Is it a food? No, of course not. It doesn't provide nourishment.
 
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