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Is Lying inherited from the Garden?

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It could be a habit in some people. In others I believe it to be demonic in origin.

That would depend on a number of factors.
Only God could possibly know the answer to that.
Yes, I agree.

There is mention that, " even the demons believe", by a tzadik(disciple). Then also there is mention of only fools do not believe their is A Savior in proverbs(_______)
With this sound doctrine there needs to be a place to find wise counsel.

And there is in Yeshua.
He does warn of calling a person a fool, for good reason as far as I am concerned.
Lying in general about things a person does not understand in my opinion comes from pride. I've seen its aggression many times. Usually in persons with both a habitual issue and mental illness issue. The cognizant liars do so to gain power over another. The mentally ill, do so in fear of others realizing they have difficulty with memory. Some even have lesser faculties and have no grasp of there surrounding reality. This sometimes leads to aggression also. But usually only when confronted with the Truth. And it will not matter if the sword is sheathed. Even a gentle touch of the Truth will cause the liar pain. Once during a fellowship meeting I gave a loved one advice on this. You will need to separate pain from anger before healing begins.

Even so,
There are some that will prey upon the gentleness of the sheathed sword and attempt to pervert the Word in order to abuse Sons and Daughters of the Torah Kingdom.

Those are the ones that know personally I am far from timid and will not hesitate to defend Life.
 
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Ah,
You reminded me of something sis.
Caleb(yhdh) and Yoshua(efrayim)

These past few yrs I've explored the efrayim forest alongside the terrain of the Torah were the horizons loom is woven in lovingkindness(haddasah).

Counting the Shabbat trees has brought my soul an enormous amount of joy. If only I could find a way to share such a fruit.

You are a blessing sis.
 
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Sorry about the tangent of thoughts in the last few post.
Something of an inspiration occurred and I took the opportunity to share in notation form in order to expound the experience..

The account of falseness of the spies about the promised good land of milk and honey reminded me of an arrangement term given to efrayim and his brother.
These two were called half tribes.
During my early studies I merely ignored or glanced over the detail. My thoughts were always that Yisrayl blessed efrayim. So, I never considered efrayim to be half a man/tribe. Even till this day I only see 15 children of nobility..

The falseness of discouragement was caused by a specific number of spies. That struck me as very important to remember.
Not so much the origin of said tribal leaders.
No,
What then occurred to me is that they were perhaps in fault while considering yoshua's testimony to be of lesser value. And used this in order to usurp a blessing.

Just a thought.
 
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Another thought while visiting the gentle passerby of the Lord.
I almost forgot to seperate joy amongst 4 generations. The joy of great grandparents love poured over their little ones.

Perhaps one day they will teach them to count the fingers on one hand and double the blessing with a promise of things to come.

Teach them in the way of counting fingers and toes. Show them where the hands cover and guard the heart. (brit, esh, tav)

Blessed be the Eternal Throne.
 
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