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Is Jesus really returning soon?

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The above video points out the fact that there are so many cultures in the world which have not heard the Gospel. There are so many languages in the world that don't even have a translation of the Bible.

Since Jesus taught that the Gospel will be preached to all nations before His return, and with so many peoples today still unreached, why do we hear so often that Jesus will soon return?
 

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The above video points out the fact that there are so many cultures in the world which have not heard the Gospel. There are so many languages in the world that don't even have a translation of the Bible.

Since Jesus taught that the Gospel will be preached to all nations before His return, and with so many peoples today still unreached, why do we hear so often that Jesus will soon return?
I am not a futurist, but just a technical note - it seems you changed "all nations" to "all cultures" or "all languages".
 
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The above video points out the fact that there are so many cultures in the world which have not heard the Gospel. There are so many languages in the world that don't even have a translation of the Bible.

Since Jesus taught that the Gospel will be preached to all nations before His return, and with so many peoples today still unreached, why do we hear so often that Jesus will soon return?

All nations refer to the 70 nations in the bible (the listed descendants of Noah). These have already been reached. Messiah could come at any moment. Even the rabbis acknowledge this.
 
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As the video points out, there are about 17,000 distinct people groups in the world, and about 40% of those peoples have been unreached by the Gospel. This means there are about seven to ten thousand unreached people groups in the world today.


When Jesus said preach the Gospel to the whole world, did He not mean the Zhaba and so many others?

From God's eternal perspective, Jesus is returning soon, but we are not in a position to make predictions when 40% of the world's peoples have not heard the Gospel.
 
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As the video points out, there are about 17,000 distinct people groups in the world, and about 40% of those peoples have been unreached by the Gospel. This means there are about seven to ten thousand unreached people groups in the world today.


When Jesus said preach the Gospel to the whole world, did He not mean the Zhaba?

From God's eternal perspective, Jesus is returning soon, but we are not in a position to make predictions when 40% of the world's peoples have not heard the Gospel.
We can define words as we want, but regarding the biblical apocalyptic language, "all nations" have already been reached in the 1st century.

"...the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past... has been made known to all the nations."
R 16:26

Also, consider this:
"your faith is being reported all over the world"
R 1:8

"the gospel is bearing fruit and growing throughout the whole world"
Col 1:6

"One of them, named Agabus, stood up and indicated by the Spirit that there would definitely be a severe famine all over the world. And this took place in the reign of Claudius."
Acts 11:28
 
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We can define words as we want, but regarding the biblical apocalyptic language, "all nations" have already been reached in the 1st century.

"...the mystery which has been kept secret for long ages past... has been made known to all the nations."
R 16:26

Also, consider this:
"your faith is being reported all over the world"
R 1:8

"the gospel is bearing fruit and growing throughout the whole world"
Col 1:6

"One of them, named Agabus, stood up and indicated by the Spirit that there would definitely be a severe famine all over the world. And this took place in the reign of Claudius."
Acts 11:28

This is the Adventist subforum, the creator of the video is an Adventist, and the purpose for the video and for creating this thread is to encourage Adventist missions.

Unless you can find quotations from Ellen White or other Adventist pioneers in favor of your interpretation of what the Bible means by "all nations," please share it elsewhere.

Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Matthew 28:19-20
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
 
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I think if Christ said He was coming soon then maybe thats the only answer we need. Not sure why were believing some random person on youtube. Now if its preached to every nation then yes that has happened. No it will never reach ever person. Always someone born somewhere that never heard but that nation the word is there so anyone can hear.

Yes Jesus is coming soon. Maybe believe the word
 
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The above video points out the fact that there are so many cultures in the world which have not heard the Gospel. There are so many languages in the world that don't even have a translation of the Bible.

Since Jesus taught that the Gospel will be preached to all nations before His return, and with so many peoples today still unreached, why do we hear so often that Jesus will soon return?

Conrad Vine has a great sermon addressing that point by way of illustration.


Conrad Vine – President of AFM – at Kernersville N.C. May 1,2022

Islam – dreams and visions of Christ. Begin at 7:30 in video

See 11:58 point




at 14:00 – since the year 2000 there have been more baptisms of Muslims than since the 1500 years of Islam prior.



15:26 DreamsOfIsa.org

website gets about "one dream per minute" coming in from around the World - Muslims seeing Jesus in dreams or visions
 
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I guess this depends on where you stand.

Since Jesus spoke this ….and He did not lie….. it has to be referencing the time frame within the tribulation period since that would have been the next event to take place…and everything He spoke (prophesied) was in reference to the coming tribulation period.

There was no knowledge of the mystery when Jesus was here…. it was something that God had kept hidden and decided to sandwich in between the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
This Administration of grace, the mystery of the one body, being born again (spirit within) the one new man (Jews & Gentiles) …and more …….None of that was known…. it was hid in God and not revealed until Pentecost and fully revealed until Paul received it by revelation.

So Matthew 24:14 does not apply to us today, if you adhere to the rapture of the Church……But
If you don’t adhere to the rapture of the church …. then that would mean we are in the tribulation period and the entire administration of Grace does not apply to anyone …..which would mean we are not saved by grace, there is no one body of Christ…everything in the Church epistles would be irrelevant.
 
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I think if Christ said He was coming soon then maybe thats the only answer we need. Not sure why were believing some random person on youtube. Now if its preached to every nation then yes that has happened. No it will never reach ever person. Always someone born somewhere that never heard but that nation the word is there so anyone can hear.

Yes Jesus is coming soon. Maybe believe the word

Is Jesus going to return before we fulfill His commandment to make disciples of all nations?
 
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I guess this depends on where you stand.

Since Jesus spoke this ….and He did not lie….. it has to be referencing the time frame within the tribulation period since that would have been the next event to take place…and everything He spoke (prophesied) was in reference to the coming tribulation period.

There was no knowledge of the mystery when Jesus was here…. it was something that God had kept hidden and decided to sandwich in between the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
This Administration of grace, the mystery of the one body, being born again (spirit within) the one new man (Jews & Gentiles) …and more …….None of that was known…. it was hid in God and not revealed until Pentecost and fully revealed until Paul received it by revelation.

So Matthew 24:14 does not apply to us today, if you adhere to the rapture of the Church……But
If you don’t adhere to the rapture of the church …. then that would mean we are in the tribulation period and the entire administration of Grace does not apply to anyone …..which would mean we are not saved by grace, there is no one body of Christ…everything in the Church epistles would be irrelevant.

What you are saying is irrelevant to me if it's not supported by traditional Adventist teachings.
 
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I guess this depends on where you stand.

Since Jesus spoke this ….and He did not lie….. it has to be referencing the time frame within the tribulation period since that would have been the next event to take place…and everything He spoke (prophesied) was in reference to the coming tribulation period.

And of course Matt 24:29-31 "Immediately AFTER the tribulation of those days ... they will see the son of man... He will send forth his angels to gather His elect"

This Administration of grace, the mystery of the one body, being born again (spirit within) the one new man (Jews & Gentiles) …and more …….None of that was known…. it was hid in God and not revealed until Pentecost and fully revealed until Paul received it by revelation.

Gal 3:8 "The Gospel was preached to Abraham"
Heb 4:1 "The Gospel was preached to us just as it was to them also"
John 8 - "Abraham saw My day and was glad"
Gal 1:6-9 "there is only one Gospel"

Jer 31:31-34 the NEW Covenant.

So Matthew 24:14 does not apply to us today, if you adhere to the rapture of the Church……But
If you don’t adhere to the rapture of the church …. then that would mean we are in the tribulation

The rapture comes after the tribulation according to Matt 24:29

And at that point "He sends forth His angels to gather His elect - from one end of the sky to the other" Matt 24:31

which is what we see in 1 Thess 4:13-18

All the NT writers agree that there is only one Gospel and that it has been preached and ongoing from OT days to this very day.
 
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This is the Adventist subforum, the creator of the video is an Adventist, and the purpose for the video and for creating this thread is to encourage Adventist missions.

Unless you can find quotations from Ellen White or other Adventist pioneers in favor of your interpretation of what the Bible means by "all nations," please share it elsewhere.

Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Matthew 28:19-20
Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age.” Amen.
As you wish.
 
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Here are some quotes from Ellen White:

So now, before the coming of the Son of man, the everlasting gospel is to be preached “to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people.” (Revelation 14:6, 14.) God “hath appointed a day, in the which He will judge the world.” (Acts 17:31.) Christ tells us when that day shall be ushered in. He does not say that all the world will be converted, but that “this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.” By giving the gospel to the world it is in our power to hasten our Lord’s return. We are not only to look for but to hasten the coming of the day of God. (2 Peter 3:12, margin.) Had the church of Christ done her appointed work as the Lord ordained, the whole world would before this have been warned, and the Lord Jesus would have come to our earth in power and great glory. . . .
Ellen G. White Estate: Daily Devotional - Homeward Bound
https://whiteestate.org/devotional/hb/02_21/

The time has come when through God's messengers the scroll is being unrolled to the world. The truth contained in the first, second, and third angels’ messages must go to every nation, kindred, tongue, and people; it must lighten the darkness of every continent, and extend to the islands of the sea. There must be no delay in this work.

Our watchword is to be, Onward, ever onward! Angels of heaven will go before us to prepare the way. Our burden for the regions beyond can never be laid down till the whole earth is lighted with the glory of the Lord.
Ellen G. White Estate: Daily Devotional - God's Amazing Grace
 
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Here are some quotes from Ellen White:

To be honest, this makes for some interesting theories. I mean the part which essentially says Jesus would have come if certain things would have been fulfilled.
The question is, has there been an appointed day for the 2nd coming or has it been dependent on missions to be fulfilled by the/a church/group.
Personally I am leaning to the former, but the latter is an interesting subject for debate.
What does it mean to warn the world? what is tee 'world' anyway?
I am pretty much leaning to the former because God is all-knowing, and regardless of any human action He knows what will happen and when His day is gonna be. But if is was dependent on human work to be finished it could technically never happen - which we know
is rather a no-option.
Another issue is, does revelation describe what will be happening, as in what God had foreseen would be happening, or does revelation set events and the players will just take on their appointed roles and fullfil revelation at ANY given time in the history of mankind.
 
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The above video points out the fact that there are so many cultures in the world which have not heard the Gospel. There are so many languages in the world that don't even have a translation of the Bible.

Since Jesus taught that the Gospel will be preached to all nations before His return, and with so many peoples today still unreached, why do we hear so often that Jesus will soon return?
Everyone through the access we have now has been given the access to the gospel, now as to whether they have listened is the true question..
 
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