Is Jerusalem Babylon

[Dead Eye]

Does Tribulation Jerusalem Parallel Babylon?

In what City did the Israelis build the 1st and 2nd Israeli Temples and in what city will the Israelis build the 3rd Israeli Temple?

Finding Jerusalem in Chapters 11,18,17 of Revelation

Lets Question Reason and Find Jerusalem in Revelation Chapter Eleven

In Rev 11:1,2 is the temple spoken of the Third Israeli Temple and in what city do the Israelis build their holy temple?

In Rev 11:2 does the holy city identify Jerusalem and is this the city built in Dan 9:25 and Rev 18:19 and spoken of in Matt 24:15 2Thes 2:2-4 Dan 9:26?

In Rev 11:3 in what city do the two witnesses prophesy?

In Rev 11:5 in what city are the men located that would hurt the two witnesses?

In Rev 11:6 from what city do the two witnesses send forth their plagues upon the people Rev 11:10 of earth?

In Rev 11:7 in what city do the two witnesses finish their testimony?

In Rev 11:7 in what city does the beast kill the two witness?

In Rev 11:8 in what city is the street located where the two witnesses lay dead?

In Rev 11:8 the title that great city identifies what city? And is that great city of Rev 11:8 that great city found in Rev 17:18?

In Rev 11:8 what is the name of the city that is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt? And do you think this is the same city found in Rev 18:2,3

In Rev 11:8 what is the name of the city where was our Lord was crucified? And do you think that this is the city that calls herself a queen in Rev 18:7?

If this city in Rev 11:8 is called Sodom and Egypt why can not this city be called Babylon Rev 18:2,3 or the Woman Rev 17:2-5,18?

In Rev 11:11 in what city do the two prophets stand upon their feet?

In Rev 11:12 in what city are the enemies of the two witnesses located?

In what city does the great earthquake of Rev 11:13 take place? And is the city that is 1/10 part destroyed by the earthquake in Rev 11:13 the same city divided into three parts by the earthquake in Rev 16:19?

In Revelation Chapter Eleven Jerusalem is called

Rev 11:2 The Holy City, Rev 11:8 The Great City, Rev 11:8 Sodom and Egypt, Rev 11:8 Where our Lord was Crucified

Rev 11:13 The City

Lets Question Reason and Find Jerusalem in Revelation Chapter Seventeen

In Rev 17:1 does the Judgment of the Great harlot identify with the announcement of the fall of Babylon in Rev 18:2?

In Rev 17:1 is the great harlot the same personage (her) as the City of Babylon spoken of in Rev 18:2,3?

In Rev 17:1 does the judgement of the great harlot identify with the plagues of the City of Babylon mentioned in Rev 18:8?

In Rev 17:2 are these kings the same kings mentioned in Rev 18:9,10?

In Rev 17:2 is the unfaithfulness of the great harlot a parallel to the habitation of devils, a city of foul attitudes, and a cage of unclean and hateful birds mentioned in Rev 18:2?

In Rev 17:2 does her unfaithfulness identity the actions of the personage that glorifies herself as a queen in Rev 18:7,8?

In Rev 17:2 is the unfaithful wine of the great harlot the same unfaithful wine utilized by the city found in Rev 18:3?

In Rev 17:3 is the woman sitting on the back of the scarlet colored beast also that great city spoken of in Rev 18:16-18?

In Rev 17:4 is the array and decking of the woman the same array and decking of the city spoken of in Rev 18:16?

In Rev 17:4 are the gold, precious stones, and pearls the same gold, precious stones, and pearls found in the city of Rev 18:16 and are these the abundant delicacies found in Rev 18:3? Also does the gold, precious stones, and pearls identify the products of the city found in Rev 18:11-14?

In Rev 17:4 does the golden cup in the hand of the great harlot identify a parallel to the Third Israeli Temple spoken of in Rev 11:1,2? And does the wine explaining the abominations and filthiness in the golden cup identify with the habitation of devils, the holding place for foul attitudes, and a cage of unclean and hateful birds mentioned in Rev 18:2? And do you think the filth found in Rev 18:2 compares to the actions of the people in Rev 11:8-10? Also do you think that the city that is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt in Rev 11:8 identifies with the great harlot spoken of in Rev 17:2,3?

In Rev 17:5 do you think mystery identifies something about the woman that is hidden and if so what about the woman is hidden?

In Rev 17:5 do you think Babylon the Great identifies the same Babylon mentioned in Rev 18:2?

In Rev 17:5 do you think the Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth identifies the title Sodom and Egypt in Rev 11:8?

In Rev 17:6 do you think that the intoxication of the woman identifies with the behavior of the people mentioned in Rev 11:8-10?

In Rev 17:6 do you think the blood of the martyrs of Jesus identifies the two witnesses appointed by Jesus in Rev 11:3 being killed on the street of that great city in Rev 11:8?

In Rev 17:7 do you believe that the Angel explains the mystery found in Rev 17:5 to Apostle John?

In Rev 17:9 does the woman sitting upon the seven mountains utilize the sorceries mentioned in Rev 18:23?

In Rev 17:11 does the beast reside in the city mentioned in Rev 11:8 where he kills the two witnesses?

In Rev 17:13 what city does the beast reside in? Does the beast reside in the same city mentioned in Rev 11:8 where he kills Rev 11:7 the two witnesses? And is this the same city spoken of in Rev 18:7 as the queen? And is the queen the woman sitting on the back of the scarlet colored beast in Rev 17:2-4? And is this the mystery spoken of in Rev 17:5?

In Rev 17:14 does the Lamb overcome the seven monarchs Rev 17:10 of the seven mountains mentioned in Rev 17:9 on the outside of city spoken of in Rev 14:20? And is the city mentioned in Rev 14:20 the same city mentioned in Rev 11:8?

In Rev 17:15 is the woman sitting over the waters the same great city built Dan 9:25 with great expense spoken of in Rev 18:16-19 and that is burning and destroyed in Dan 9:26?

In Rev 17:16 is the harlot that is made desolate, plundered, and burned the same personage (her) that is burning in Rev 18:9,10 and does this explain the wealth leaving in Zech 14:14,15?

In Rev 17:17 does the beast possess the city mentioned in Rev 18:2,3? And does woman in Rev 17:2-5 identify the city mentioned in Rev 11:8 as the city built at great expense in Rev 18:19? Could this be the Seat of Satan mentioned in Rev 2:13? And could the cup in the hand of the woman identify the Synagogue of Satan mentioned in Rev 2:9?

In Rev 17:18 is that great city the same city mentioned in Rev 18:18 and in Rev 11:8?

In Revelation Chapter Seventeen Jerusalem is called

Rev 17:1 The Great harlot, Rev 17:3 a woman, Rev 17:4 the woman, Rev 17:4 her, Rev 17:5 Mystery Babylon the Great, The Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth, Rev 17:15 the harlot, Rev 17:18 that great city

Lets Question Reason and Find Jerusalem in Revelation Chapter Eighteen

In Rev 18:1 does Babylon the Great, the queen in Rev 18:7, identify the woman located in Rev 17:5? And does this Babylon the Great identify the city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt in Rev 11:8?

In Rev 18:2 does Babylon the Great, the habitation of devils, hold of foul attitudes, and retainer of unclean birds identify the actions of the people located in Rev 11:8-12 and of the people intoxicated with unfaithfulness in Rev 17:2?

In Rev 18:3 is the wine of her unfaithfulness the same wine in the cup of the woman in Rev 17:2,4,6? And is this the wine the people of earth drink as they make merry in Rev 11:10?

In Rev 18:4 does Mica 4:10 identify the city and does the voice of God in Mica 6:9 calling to the man of wisdom identify who My people are? And what city gate do these people pass through in Mica 2:12?

In Rev 18:4 what city does her identify and where are the people of God located? Where have the people of God always been located and does the street in Rev 11:8 identify street of this city? Is this the Holy City spoken of in Rev 11:2 the city where God calls out His People away from?

In Rev 18:4 are the sins of Great Babylon identified in Rev 17:6 where the woman is drunken with the blood of the saints?

In Rev 18:4 are her plagues associated with the destruction of the woman in Rev 17:16?

In Rev 18:5 are her sins described in Rev 17:2,6 11:10 9:20,21? And could these iniquities be associated with the behavior of the people in Rev 11:8-12?

In Rev 18:6 is God commanding the two monarchs in Rev 17:16 Dan 11:40 Mica 5:5 to destroy this city Rev 11:8 because of her evil works Rev 17:2 18:2?

In Rev 18:6 does the term she identify the woman in Rev 17:2-5 and is this the same city found in Rev 11:8 and Rev 14:8?

In Rev 18:6 does the cup filled by this city have any association with the cup containing the wine of unfaithfulness in found in Rev 17:2 18:3?

In Rev 18:7 does glorified herself explain the elevated position of the woman over humanity in Rev 17:15? And does glorified herself explain the exalted position of that great city over the kings of the earth in Rev 17:18?

In Rev 18:7 does living deliciously Rev 18:3 explain the array of fine cloth and decking of gold, precious stones, and pearls located in Rev 17:4 18:16?

In Rev 18:7 is God commanding the two monarchs found in Rev 17:16 Dan 11:40 to deliver torment and sorrow to this city?

In Rev 18:7 does the heart Rev 11:10 18:2,23 9:20,21 of this city identify with the actions upon the street of the city found in Rev 11:8?

In Rev 18:7 does the proud queen explain the arrogant woman found in Rev 17:2-5 and her self proclaimed self-righteous position over humanity in Rev 17:15 and over the kings of earth in Rev 17:18?

In Rev 18:8 are the plagues pronounced upon this city the same plagues in Rev 18:4 that the people Zech 13:7-9 of God escape Rev 12:6 Mica 2:12,13 Zech 9:14,15 from?

In Rev 18:8 does the utter burning of Great Babylon compare with the burning of the harlot in Rev 17:16?

In Rev 18:8 does the judgment of the Lord God associate with the earthquake destroying a tenth part of the city in Rev 11:13 and the dividing of the great city in Rev 16:19?

In Rev 18:9 are these the same kings that we find committing unfaithfulness with the woman in Rev 17:2?

In Rev 18:9 does the smoke of her burning associate with the burning of the woman in Rev 17:16?

In Rev 18:10 does her torment identify the destruction of Rev 18:6-8 17:16 Dan 11:41 Joel 2:3?

In Rev 18:10 does that great city Babylon identify that great city in Rev 17:18 reigning over the kings of the earth? And does that great city Babylon identity with the title of the great harlot found in Rev 17:5?

In Rev 18:10 does that mighty city Isa 21:1 identify the queen found in Rev 18:8, the city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt in Rev 11:8, the great harlot found in Rev 17:1-5, and the city found in Isa 1:21?

In Rev 18:11 are the merchants the same merchants found in Rev 18:23 and do they have an identification with the Nicolaitanes in Rev 2:6? And to the deeds of the Nicolaitanes identify deeds done in Rev 18:14 9:20,21?

In Rev 18:11 does but their merchandise anymore identify this city as a world trade center?

In Rev 18:12,13 parallel the fine linen, gold, gemstones, and pearls found in Rev 17:4 18:16?

In Rev 19:12,13 identify the wealth found in Zech 14:14,15?

In Rev 18:13 does slaves and souls of men identify Great Babylon as a slave Isa 56:11 Mica 2:1-3 3:1-3 Zech 11:5 trading city?

In Rev 18:14 does dainty and goodly identify the items gained by the evil found in Rev 9:20,21?

In Rev 18:15 does Great Babylon identify a prosperous city like the harlot Rev 17:2-5 supported by the world merchants Rev 18:23 2:6?

In Rev 18:16 is that great city the same great city found in Rev 17:18? And does the fine purple and scarlet linen, gold, precious stones, and pearls identify the fine purple and scarlet linen, gold, precious stones, and pearls found upon the harlot in Rev 17:2-5?

In Rev 18:17 does come to nought identify the destruction of the queen in Rev 18:5-8,18 17:16?

In Rev 18:19 does that great city Rev 18:10 identify that great city in Rev 17:18 ruling over the kings of the earth?

In Rev 18:20 why does heaven rejoice over the destruction of Great Babylon could Great Babylon be the Great harlot of Rev 17:1-5 and the city that is spiritually called Sodom and Egypt in Rev 11:8?

In Rev 18:21 does the great millstone identify that great city? And does the sea identify the Lake of Fire?

In Rev 18:22 do the different peoples identifies the people of Rev 11:9

In Rev 18:23 do the sorceries identify with the sorceries found in Rev 9:21? And does sorcery link to the wine in the cup help by the woman in Rev 17:4 18:3? And does sorcery identify with the deeds of the Nicolaitanes found in Rev 2:6,15 Amos 2:7? And does the false prophet utilize sorcery to deceive the people of earth in Rev 13:14? That raises another question where in what city are the beast of the sea Rev 13:1,2 and the beast of the earth Rev 13:11 located in?

In Rev 18:24 does the blood identify the woman intoxicated Isa 29:9 with blood in Rev 17:6?

In Rev 18:24 does in Great Babylon is found the blood of the prophets identify the murders Rev 11:7,8 of the two prophets found in Rev 11:10?

In Rev 18:24 does the blood of the saints identify those individuals that the beast returns to make war with in Rev 12:17 and are these the same individuals in Rev 12:11 that give their lives Rev 2:10? And where does the beast return to, what city does the beast return to?

In Revelation Chapter Eighteen Jerusalem is called

Rev 18:2 Babylon the Great, the Hold, A Cage, Rev 18:3 Her, Rev 18:8 A Queen, Rev 18:10 That Great City Babylon, Your, Rev 18:14 You, Rev 18:16 That Great City, Rev 18:18 This Great City, Rev 18:19 She, Rev 18:21 A Great Millstone,

The Titles of Revelation Chapters 11,17,18

In Revelation Chapter Eleven Jerusalem is called

Rev 11:2 The Holy City, Rev 11:8 The Great City, Rev 11:8 Sodom and Egypt, Rev 11:8 Where our Lord was Crucified

Rev 11:13 The City

In Revelation Chapter Seventeen Jerusalem is called

Rev 17:1 The Great harlot, Rev 17:3 a woman, Rev 17:4 the woman, Rev 17:4 her, Rev 17:5 Mystery Babylon the Great, The Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth, Rev 17:15 the harlot, Rev 17:18 that great city

In Revelation Chapter Eighteen Jerusalem is called

Rev 18:2 Babylon the Great, the Hold, A Cage, Rev 18:3 Her, Rev 18:8 A Queen, Rev 18:10 That Great City Babylon, Your, Rev 18:14 You, Rev 18:16 That Great City, Rev 18:18 This Great City, Rev 18:19 She, Rev 18:21 A Great Millstone,

(The identification, comparing, and utilizing of the paralleling titles) (delivers hidden information) (allowing us to understand the characters involved within the story).

Jerusalem has been destroyed many times in its history and is the vocal point of prophecy not Rome, Babylon, the U.S.A. or Russia. It is now, always has been, and will be the Capital City of God. Jerusalem is now being built for its destruction during the last thirty days of the sixth trumpet. Furthermore Jerusalem will be built during the 1000 year kingdom of God and will not be destroyed, and the New Jerusalem comes down out of the New Heaven from God.

Isaiah 13:19-21 Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah. [20] It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there. [21] But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

Jeremiah 50:39 Therefore the wild beasts of the desert with the wild beasts of the islands shall dwell there, and the owls shall dwell therein: and it shall be no more inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation.

Zech 2:7 Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwells with the daughter of Babylon.

 

[Douggg]

If this city in Rev 11:8 is called Sodom and Egypt why can not this city be called Babylon Rev 18:2,3 or the Woman Rev 17:2-5,18?

Mystery, Babylon the Great, is the mystical kingdom of Satan and his angels. And the evil effect they have on the world.

Revelation 18:2-3 is talking about the fall of Satan and his angels kingdom. God begins dismembering their kingdom when the 7th angel sounds his trumpet, Revelation 11:15, and the third woe to the inhabiters of the earth begins in Revelation 12:12.

Over the span of the time, times, half time that the third woe lasts, God continues his destruction of Satan's mystical kingdom.

In Revelation 16:19 is God's seventh vial of wrath poured out. And a global earthquake will take place, splitting the earth's crust into three segments, as God remembers all of the evil that Satan and his angels kingdom has done to lead the world astray to rebel against God.

 

[d taylor]

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No, in Revelation 17 the angel tells the reader who mystery Babylon is And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

The only city at the time of of John's writing of Revelation who ruled over the kings of the earth was Rome.

 

[tailgator]

The king of Babylon has been smiting the Philistines with his rod for more than a year now and have turned their dwellings into rubble.
The cedar trees in Lebanon are being cut down daily by the king of Babylon.


You tell me,who's death would cause the fir trees in Lebanon to sing,?Who death would cause philistines to rejoice?

Isaiah 14
7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

 

[parousia70]

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No, in Revelation 17 the angel tells the reader who mystery Babylon is And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

The only city at the time of of John's writing of Revelation who ruled over the kings of the earth was Rome.

There is only ONE city that the Bible ever designates as "Reigning over the kings of the earth".

Earthly Jerusalem, by Divine right and calling, was the preeminent city among all nations. The Hebrew/Biblical understanding of Jerusalem is that she is the "Chief of the nations" (Jeremiah 31:7; Ez 5:5), the Queen city of the earth (Lam 1:1/Rev 18:7). She, by Divine right and covenant, was appointed as the head of all nations (Deut 26:19; Deut 15:6; Deut 28:1,10-13), and the gentile kings recognized God's dwelling was at Jerusalem with the Hebrews (1 Ki 10:24; Luke 11:31; Ezra 1:2; Dan 2:47, 3:28-29, 4:1-3, 4:17, 4:34-37; Ezra 1; Ezra 4-7; Ezra 7:15,23).

The Governor of all nations (Ps. 22:28) lived in Jerusalem in his House (Ez 7:15,23), and all the kingdom, power and might over earth was His (1 Chron 29:11-12). Indeed, all kings receive their power to rule from that Divine King (Rom 13:1-2,6; John 19:11; 1 Pet 2:13-14,17; Ez 1:2; Dan 1:1-2; Dan 2:20-21; Dan 2:37-38; Dan 2:47, Dan 3:28-29; Dan 4:1-3,17,34-37.).

 

[RiverJordan]

Jerusalem is the strongest candidate in my opinion for these reasons.

• In the gospels, Jesus says that "upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. 'Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. Behold, your house is being left to you desolate!'"
• In Revelation the saints rejoice because the judgment pronounced against the Harlot: "And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth."
• In Revelation it also mentions the Great City and two witnesses therein: "And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which mystically is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified." Christ was crucified in Jerusalem.
• Additionally God has a precedent for calling Jerusalem "Sodom". In Isaiah it says: "You rulers of Sodom; Give ear to the instruction of our God, You people of Gomorrah."

I will concede that the portions of Revelation regarding the Harlot also directly quote Isaiah in regards to Babylon.

• Isaiah 47: "Now, then, hear this, you sensual one, Who dwells securely, Who says in your heart, 'I am, and there is no one besides me. I will not sit as a widow, Nor know loss of children.' But these two things will come on you suddenly in one day: Loss of children and widowhood. They will come on you in full measure In spite of your many sorceries, In spite of the great power of your spells."
• Then again in Revelation: "Pay her back even as she has paid, and give back to her double according to her deeds; in the cup which she has mixed, mix twice as much for her. To the degree that she glorified herself and lived sensuously, to the same degree give her torment and mourning; for she says in her heart, 'I SIT as A QUEEN AND I AM NOT A WIDOW, and will never see mourning.'"

But we do have precedent biblically for this wicked woman having been moved from one capital to another, namely in Zechariah when the wicked woman is revealed and being transported from Israel to Babylon.

• Zechariah 5: Then he said, "This is Wickedness!" And he threw her down into the middle of the ephah and cast the lead weight on its opening. Then I lifted up my eyes and looked, and there two women were coming out with the wind in their wings; and they had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heavens. I said to the angel who was speaking with me, "Where are they taking the ephah?" Then he said to me, "To build a temple for her in the land of Shinar; and when it is prepared, she will be set there on her own pedestal."
• This transfer of her location to Babylon (in Shinar) coincides with the exile of Jerusalem. If this woman wickedness is her (which to me is reasonable) then it is evidence her capital can move with the ages. She may be identified as mystery babylon because of her residence there in the past when she is directly confronted in Isaiah.

But of course, we cannot forget that "on her forehead a name was written, a mystery," and this mystification about her identity simply may not be resolved at this time, and may not be resolved until the time of wrath when the proclamation of her downfall is decreed to the earth in the eternal gospel of Revelation 14.

 

[tailgator]

Jerusalem is the strongest candidate in my opinion for these reasons.

• In the gospels, Jesus says that "upon you may fall the guilt of all the righteous blood shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah, the son of Berechiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Truly I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation. 'Jerusalem, Jerusalem, who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, the way a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were unwilling. Behold, your house is being left to you desolate!'"
• In Revelation the saints rejoice because the judgment pronounced against the Harlot: "And in her was found the blood of prophets and of saints and of all who have been slain on the earth."
• In Revelation it also mentions the Great City and two witnesses therein: "And their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city which mystically is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified." Christ was crucified in Jerusalem.
• Additionally God has a precedent for calling Jerusalem "Sodom". In Isaiah it says: "You rulers of Sodom; Give ear to the instruction of our God, You people of Gomorrah."

I will concede that the portions of Revelation regarding the Harlot also directly quote Isaiah in regards to Babylon.

• Isaiah 47: "Now, then, hear this, you sensual one, Who dwells securely, Who says in your heart, 'I am, and there is no one besides me. I will not sit as a widow, Nor know loss of children.' But these two things will come on you suddenly in one day: Loss of children and widowhood. They will come on you in full measure In spite of your many sorceries, In spite of the great power of your spells."
• Then again in Revelation: "Pay her back even as she has paid, and give back to her double according to her deeds; in the cup which she has mixed, mix twice as much for her. To the degree that she glorified herself and lived sensuously, to the same degree give her torment and mourning; for she says in her heart, 'I SIT as A QUEEN AND I AM NOT A WIDOW, and will never see mourning.'"

But we do have precedent biblically for this wicked woman having been moved from one capital to another, namely in Zechariah when the wicked woman is revealed and being transported from Israel to Babylon.

• Zechariah 5: Then he said, "This is Wickedness!" And he threw her down into the middle of the ephah and cast the lead weight on its opening. Then I lifted up my eyes and looked, and there two women were coming out with the wind in their wings; and they had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the ephah between the earth and the heavens. I said to the angel who was speaking with me, "Where are they taking the ephah?" Then he said to me, "To build a temple for her in the land of Shinar; and when it is prepared, she will be set there on her own pedestal."
• This transfer of her location to Babylon (in Shinar) coincides with the exile of Jerusalem. If this woman wickedness is her (which to me is reasonable) then it is evidence her capital can move with the ages. She may be identified as mystery babylon because of her residence there in the past when she is directly confronted in Isaiah.

But of course, we cannot forget that "on her forehead a name was written, a mystery," and this mystification about her identity simply may not be resolved at this time, and may not be resolved until the time of wrath when the proclamation of her downfall is decreed to the earth in the eternal gospel of Revelation 14.

I learned about 15-20 years ago the beast from the sea is the Israeli government.Jerusalem is Babylon and everyone in Israel except the saints get the mark of the Israeli government.

The people in Israel have no shame.They dont care about anyone but themselves and it's showing everyday.Babylon is falling.

Revelation 14
8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:




If any man worship the beast ,they shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God ,and that cup is given to Babylon to drink.


Revelation 16
19 And the great city was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and great Babylon came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.

 

[storypeddler]

Lol.No, Israel/Jerusalem is not Babylon. Babylon is the world political/religious hybrid that rises to power during the tribulation period. Jerusalem and Israel will never fall. Jesus will sit on the throne of David IN Jerusalem. Israel is the apple of God's eye, even while in disobedience. He has NEVER abandoned Israel and He never will. Understanding prophecy is not this difficult.

 

[tailgator]

Lol.No, Israel/Jerusalem is not Babylon. Babylon is the world political/religious hybrid that rises to power during the tribulation period. Jerusalem and Israel will never fall. Jesus will sit on the throne of David IN Jerusalem. Israel is the apple of God's eye, even while in disobedience. He has NEVER abandoned Israel and He never will. Understanding prophecy is not this difficult.

Jerusalem is governed by Benjamin Netanyahu's government

If Jerusalem doesn't fall ,then antichrist will reign forever.

Before Jesus can sit on the throne of David in Jerusalem.Bejamin netanyahu (who rejects Jesus)and his antichrist government must fall .Jerusalem must fall.


Understanding prophecy is not that difficult.

 

[Diamond72]

In Rev 11:2 does the holy city identify Jerusalem and is this the city built in Dan 9:25 and Rev 18:19 and spoken of in Matt 24:15 2Thes 2:2-4 Dan 9:26?

Zechariah 14:16-19:

> "Then the survivors from all the nations that have attacked Jerusalem will go up year after year to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, and to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles. If any of the peoples of the earth do not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD Almighty, they will have no rain. If the Egyptian people do not go up and take part, they will have no rain. The LORD will bring on them the plague he inflicts on the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles. This will be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the nations that do not go up to celebrate the Festival of Tabernacles."

It looks like the New Jerusalem will be like a world capital. I think I will be given a condo, a place to stay when we go there once a year to pay our respect for the new government. I am sure there will be plenty of rooms for whoever needs a place to stay when they go there to visit.