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Lived with my now wife for 15ish years before getting officially married.
YesI think that would count as a de facto relationship under Section 4AA of the Family Law Act 1975, so semi-official even without the certificate.
By the way, are you SURE of the wording of what you're considering?
I know a lot of income-based government programs are based on "household income" rather than "husband and wife income".
In most cases, they (the government) don't actually care if you are married or not?
Uh... are you saying that when you date/and/or have sex with someone, that's your married partner?
Because if so, that's some pretty out there beliefs you have... and you realize practically no one else believes that right? That you're alone in that thought?
Don't get me wrong, I have enough wisdom to discern why you have most likely come to that conclusion ("going in" to someone in the Old Testament most likely?). But you're definitely wrong. Married is married. Besides gay marriage and the like, married in the sight of God is married in the sight of everyone else as well. Married according to the laws of the land matters. The act of marrying someone is important and crucial.
Two people with health problems would like to get married but they can't afford it because of Obamacare. Both earn $21,000/year which qualifies them to get a good health insurance plan on healthcare.gov for less than $50/month each due to their low income. However, if they get married, they would have to pay $1,600/month (almost $20,000/year) because their combined income of $42,000/year would cause them to lose tax credits they received when they applied individually. Under Obamacare rules, if they lived together as husband and wife, but didn't get married, they could keep their existing plans and pay less than $100/month combined. Since Obamacare makes marriage unaffordable, is there anything wrong with them living together as husband and wife without getting married?
In a state with common-law marriage rules, that would be a legal marriage, and it would legally be fraud not to disclose the fact. In other states, my personal opinion is that morally it would still be wrong.
You would know better than me, although I would still strongly suggest professional advice. On my understanding of the rules, the statements in the OP about costs are incorrect. According to online calculators, a US average silver plan for two singles on the stated incomes would be about $100/month each, while a family plan for a couple on the combined income would be about $300/month.
Actually, Paul wrote some very interesting words to that effect:
Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take away the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? May it never be! Or do you not know that the one who joins himself to a prostitute is one body with her? For He says, “The two shall become one flesh.” -- 1 Corinthians 7
Paul takes the OT definition of marriage and applies it to sex with a prostitute.
You have been misinformed. A "first coupling" without being married is fornication - which is prohibited in scripture.then as I am lead to understand, the first person you couple with is your "spouse" in the eyes of God.
You have been misinformed. A "first coupling" without being married is fornication - which is prohibited in scripture.
Uh... are you saying that when you date/and/or have sex with someone, that's your married partner?
Because if so, that's some pretty out there beliefs you have... and you realize practically no one else believes that right? That you're alone in that thought?
John, you were careful the way you stated that, and that was probably a good idea, but could I please ask why you understand that to be the case?
So you're saying that everyone is in a continual state of adultery basically?Truth doesn't rely on consensual agreement, otherwise there wouldn't be "few" that find it. But what I do know is that the bible says "two become one" and no matter how anyone spins it, there is no such a thing as a coupling where "two" do not become "one".
Two become one in a coupling situation. That is the biblical fact. Whoever you first couple with: two became one. That is the biblical definition of marriage since the beginning when it was defined at Genesis 3.
So you're saying that everyone is in a continual state of adultery basically?
That Christians, God's people, are sinning continually in a major way (remember, scripture says adulterer's won't inherit the Kingdom of God)?
People who are married and only sleep with their married partner are still committing adultery?I don't know the op, just saw this post,
and the answer apparently for "everyone" with few exceptions even in churches is yes, plainly.
Truth doesn't rely on consensual agreement, otherwise there wouldn't be "few" that find it. But what I do know is that the bible says "two become one" and no matter how anyone spins it, there is no such a thing as a coupling where "two" do not become "one".
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