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is it wrong/sin to kiss before engaged?

Barricade24

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u didnt explain anything. all u did was say the bible doesn't mention it. That doesn't explain why people still act this way. they all follow the same bible we all do. And the bible doesn't say whether you can drive a car or use a computer, so i guess those are also sins? why are u here then if it's a sin?
For the things the Bible doesn't mention, it usually good to use decernment for things. Decernment is basically deciding if something is good or not. Driving a car is not a sin. It breaks no law that God has set forth. Neither does being on a computer. While they can be used for sinful things, they themselves are not sinful. When it comes to kissing, like a computer and driving, it itself is not sinful. I think the main reason Christians avoid it before marriage is because they don't want to be sexually tempted. So it is mererly a safety precaution.

I keep noticing you are so obsessed with sin. You could drive yourself nuts trying to figure out what is a sin and what isn't. Is there a pastor or someone like that you know who can help explain things to you? I don't think you totally understand what Christianity is. Listen to your fellow believers they can help you.
 
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Truthfully because people believe their pastors to much. They are taught by man that it is a sin not by God so they go along with man says. Lets take a look at drinking beer is it a sin? No Jesus made water into wine and the bible says Wherefore be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is. And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit; (Ephesians 5:17, 18 KJV). Why are people saying its a sin?

Think about it if I had a drinking problem prior to being saved or if my child, father or cousin has a drinking problem prior to being saved. Then I become a pastor I might have a personal issue with drinking and I might say something that isn't scriptural due to my experince.

There are several things that people believe are sins and it might be a sin....for them.

Paul calls them weak " But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled. But meat commendeth us not to God: for neither, if we eat, are we the better; neither, if we eat not, are we the worse. But take heed lest by any means this liberty of yours become a stumblingblock to them that are weak. For if any man see thee which hast knowledge sit at meat in the idol's temple, shall not the conscience of him which is weak be emboldened to eat those things which are offered to idols; (1 Corinthians 8:6-10 KJV)"
 
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Here is my opinion on the subject, if anyone cares. Kissing leads to sex. If you start to kiss and I mean hard it will lead to other things like sex. It is best not to if you respect her. It is a thing like this if you never smoke you will never be addicted to it. Sex is the most sacred thing. When you get Married then her body is your body and your body is her body. You can do anything and still not sin. Kissing is a foreplay to Sex.
 
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Here is my opinion on the subject, if anyone cares. Kissing leads to sex. If you start to kiss and I mean hard it will lead to other things like sex. It is best not to if you respect her. It is a thing like this if you never smoke you will never be addicted to it. Sex is the most sacred thing. When you get Married then her body is your body and your body is her body. You can do anything and still not sin. Kissing is a foreplay to Sex.

I don't think that is true my wife and I kissed and she was a virgin till we got married and she's my best friend i have never met someone i respect more. What you are saying is false. Kissing can lead to sex so can conversations.
 
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No kissing-- millions of Christians? Where?

They doing a lot of kissing +!
Looking at the churches I have been part of (in the USA and Canada) there's a lot of single/never married single parents who attend them.

I don't know where the millions are at that you referred to but I have only
encountered a handful of folks who are in the don't kiss before getting
married club.
 
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i know that. i said, why do so many christians think it is wrong and refuse to then?

I dont know any Christians who do this. Have seen one or two on the forums but don't think it's common.
 
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I don't think that is true my wife and I kissed and she was a virgin till we got married and she's my best friend i have never met someone i respect more. What you are saying is false. Kissing can lead to sex so can conversations.

Just because you didn't do it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. You are the exception. Alot of People don't have self Control. I really respect that you had self control in that area. I know in the past Christians that did and they had a baby before they got married. At least they got married and didn't abort the Baby.
 
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There is no reason to fight over this. I think this applies to what Paul was talking about in the Bible regarding those who eat meat and those that are too weak to eat meat.

Some people can easily control themselves while some can't. Some people do things which leads to sexual immorality and other sinful acts while others can easily control themselves.

I'm not even sure what to say in regards to it, but I just think if two people are in a very committed relationship which is going to lead to marriage, I don't really see any big deal or anything sinful in kissing.

But let no one quote me or say I told them to go and kiss. As I said, Paul cited the example of

''if something will lead you to stumble before GOD, don't do it"
 
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Short answer: No!

Longer answer: No. Sex is the hard limit, but caution is still adviced, and here's why:

God created us with the need for intimacy. He did that, so that spouses would develop a physical as well as spiritual connection to eachother. Kissing, petting, touching, etc, are all stages of that bonding, and the further you go, the more difficult it is to hold back, to "jump the gun" and go further than what is allowed, and, indeed beneficial.

So: No, kissing your girlfriend/boyfriend is NOT a sin (and I'll demand clear Scriptural evidence of anyone who claims that it is), but be careful how far you go.
 
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I personally wouldn't kiss outside of engagement.
I had a friend some years ago who was engaged to be married. We were attending a fairly "strict" church at the time. She and her fiance made the decision to not even kiss until after saying their wedding vows.

Some people do make that decision, and they don't believe in doing all that much "hanky panky" outside of marriage. I think it's just not the norm anymore, in the society that we live in now.
 
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I see this thread has divuldged.into.a joke, but for the sake of the thread, I will reply sincerely. Its not a sin to kiss before.marriage, but its not so clear-cut either. Marriage is.about.giving yourself to another person for life, and sharing in every part of life with them, together as one flesh. If your husband/wife is sick, you feel sick (or bad or.sad) that he/she is.sick and when one is happy the other rejoices. Its a.selfless love and also a journey. Christians save kissing and sex.for marriage.so that, that one person that you join your life to can experience kissing, sex, and every part of an intimate relationship for the first time together.

Is it bad or wrong to kiss.before marriage, a long as it.doesn't lead to sex or sexual desires/sexual sin of any kind, no. But is it better to wait for that speacial someone? I'd say yes :). Have a blessed day.
 
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I see this thread has divuldged.into.a joke, but for the sake of the thread, I will reply sincerely.

Its not so much a joke, the original poster, has posted lots of threads which were intended to sow discord and promote arguement for arguements sake, I believe we were merely showing contempt for his tactics.

However I and many others I am sure totally agree with your stance on this topic.
 
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Its not so much a joke, the original poster, has posted lots of threads which were intended to sow discord and promote arguement for arguements sake, I believe we were merely showing contempt for his tactics.

However I and many others I am sure totally agree with your stance on this topic.

Yes, I've seen a few.of his threads and replied accordingly. I'm assuming he's not saved.and takes Christianity as somewhat of a joke, but I think the only way to combat that is with a Christlike love for him, thus I give him the benefit of the doubt and amswer his questions in a noncombative approach, to try and show him Christ through me. There is also the possibility of him genuinely asking these questions and getting put on the defensive.so.often he feels the need.to post them in a derogatory manner which.in turn creates.discorse among us. In short we should agree to disagree and love this.brother just the same ( saved, not saved, combative, or genuine in his ventures), he still needs acceptance and Christ's love. If we can't show him a bit of respect even when hes.not sincere or being tricky, then from whom.will he learn Christ's.love and.compassion?
 
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