Is it time for Donald to bow out? (MOVED)

momto3girls · Oct 14, 2016

redleghunter said:
Glad you mentioned that. Perhaps it has something to do with a candidate calling another candidate's supporters baskets of deplorables.

And Trump hasn't insulted anyone? Let me see, veterans, handicapped, women, Hispanics, Muslims, POW's, ...need I go on? So I guess it only hurts when it's directed at you? Someone has to fight for these people too. Unbelievable. Oh, and she apologized the next day which, Donald has failed to do on all of these comments. And when he DOES apologize for something, he adds another zinger on the end and starts all over again. Sorry, this is the behavior of an unruly child, not the leader of a country!

redleghunter · Oct 14, 2016

momto3girls said:
And Trump hasn't insulted anyone? Let me see, veterans, handicapped, women, Hispanics, Muslims, POW's, ...need I go on? So I guess it only hurts when it's directed at you? Someone has to fight for these people too. Unbelievable. Oh, and she apologized the next day which, Donald has failed to do on all of these comments. And when he DOES apologize for something, he adds another zinger on the end and starts all over again. Sorry, this is the behavior of an unruly child, not the leader of a country!

Just adding a bit of balance to your post. Seems both candidates operate at the lowest common denominator.

Peace.

momto3girls · Oct 14, 2016

Exactly!

redleghunter · Oct 14, 2016

momto3girls said:
Exactly!

BTW welcome to CF. See you are new here.

If you have not dropped in to the introduction thread recommend you do. Nice warm welcomes there.

God Bless!

momto3girls · Oct 14, 2016

Major1 said:
Why would any person who is as rich as Trump want to be in this just for himself?????

IF he was out for himself he would not even have run for president but instead sit back and watch life go by.

Mrs Clinton on the other hand is running not for money but for power and prestige. She is a "eliteist" and feels entitled.

To add to his ego. He's proven that he doesn't think of the consequences of his actions. That's why he will now face losses to his business; he's insulting nearly every part of the population including his "fellow Republicans." (Quotations because I don't believe he's a real Republican, nor does he believe in conservative values.)

momto3girls · Oct 14, 2016

redleghunter said:
BTW welcome to CF. See you are new here.

If you have not dropped in to the introduction thread recommend you do. Nice warm welcomes there.

God Bless!

Thank you. I'll check it out.

kingskid · Oct 15, 2016

Jason0047 said:
Jesus says "...out of the abundance of the heart does the mouth speak; And an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil"

In other words, what he says tells us alot about WHO he is as a person and how he will treat us as Americans. He also spoke racists comments as well. He also thinks people are losers if they are not rich, too. So according to Trump, you are not a winner (if you are not rich and or if you are not a super attractive woman). In other words, Trump's world does not line up with the real world involving politics. He might be a successful business man, and hurt alot of people in his businesses, but you really can't operate a country the same way like that.

...

The Lord also said

Matthew 15:7-8 KJV
Ye hypocrites, well did Esaias prophesy of you, saying, [8] This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.

So while Trump is open and transparent, there are others that hide their agendas. Hillary is one of the hidden type.

Aldebaran said:
What if he said the same things as usual, but used more polished, politically correct sounding ways of saying them, and did it calmly from a teleprompter?

Yes that is Hillary.

momto3girls · Oct 15, 2016

I don't think that's possible. It doesn't have anything to do with political correctness, it has to do with human decency and compassion. If this is an example of Christ testing us, then I don't think I want any part of it. I've been skeptical of Christianity over the past couple years because of the way so called Christian friends have treated me in my adult life, so Republicans excusing him and supporting him is just reinforcing my skepticism. I just know that hearing Trump say the terrible things he says gives me a sick feeling and I feel in my heart that he's an evil (or at least not nice) person.
Just for the record, I'm not a Hillary supporter. I've always voted Republican. Unfortunately this year they didn't give us a real candidate. I'm actually looking at Evan McMulllin.

Major1 · Oct 15, 2016

momto3girls said:
To add to his ego. He's proven that he doesn't think of the consequences of his actions. That's why he will now face losses to his business; he's insulting nearly every part of the population including his "fellow Republicans." (Quotations because I don't believe he's a real Republican, nor does he believe in conservative values.)

Last night, a man who was on the plane where a woman said she was groped by Trump came forward and said he did not see anything take place at all.

Now the question is .......
did the Clinton camp pay the woman to say what she did.
Did the Trump camp pay the man to say what he did?

Do you find it interesting that after all these years, these claims are coming forward now all at one time.

Now another man, the 1st cousin to another woman who claimed Trump kissed her has come forward and said that she is a disturbed woman who wants to be "known".

I am not a Trump person in any way but you do not have to be a brain surgeon to see that something sinister is going on here.

Randalll · Oct 15, 2016

America DIES in 2016 unless Donald Trump is elected (Hillary loses). End of story. Anyone failing to realize that is too uninformed for voting. The fact that 34% voting in this thread believe he should step down is frightening in thinking they will vote.

We are dealing with professional liars at CBS ABC NBC NPR NYT AP who ALWAYS trash Republicans while hushing up the evil truth about Democrat traitors. Unless understanding their game, you are simply too ignorant for voting at all.

civilwarbuff said:
So, after the latest revelation is it time for Donald to bow out? Why or why not? Please let's be adults about this; no polemics which is the reason I posted this here instead of News and Curent Events. Just state your reason for or against based on what you feel fairly certain to be true.

What do you mean by "no polemics"? Are you suggesting none should offer opinions?

civilwarbuff · Oct 15, 2016

Randalll said:
What do you mean by "no polemics"? Are you suggesting none should offer opinions?

Simple Definition of polemic

: a strong written or spoken attack against someone else's opinions, beliefs, practices, etc.
polemics : the art or practice of using language to defend or harshly criticize something or someone

Focus on the words "harshly criticize".....in other words keep it civil....

Randalll · Oct 15, 2016

Has a definition unlike the one thought all these years. Thanks. With that part covered, I would hope it should still be allowed to harshly criticize the professional liars at CBS ABC NBC NPR NYT AP who have been deceiving the population for decades and who are now destroying the entire life of Donald Trump while they protect a god-mocking Marxist race-baiting traitor in Hillary. That should be okay, right?

civilwarbuff said:
Simple Definition of polemic

: a strong written or spoken attack against someone else's opinions, beliefs, practices, etc.

polemics : the art or practice of using language to defend or harshly criticize something or someone

Focus on the words "harshly criticize".....in other words keep it civil....

momto3girls · Oct 15, 2016

Major1 said:
Last night, a man who was on the plane where a woman said she was groped by Trump came forward and said he did not see anything take place at all.

Now the question is .......
did the Clinton camp pay the woman to say what she did.
Did the Trump camp pay the man to say what he did?

Do you find it interesting that after all these years, these claims are coming forward now all at one time.

Now another man, the 1st cousin to another woman who claimed Trump kissed her has come forward and said that she is a disturbed woman who wants to be "known".

I am not a Trump person in any way but you do not have to be a brain surgeon to see that something sinister is going on here.

I think the reason they're coming forward now is because he claimed that what he said in that video were just words so they're saying it wasn't just words, it was also actions. I'm so ashamed of people dismissing their claims because of the timing. It's hard enough for women to experience this kind of assault but when it's done by someone in a position of power, it magnifies it because they already feel powerless. Now they're supposed to come forward with the claims immediately afterwards?? Talk to any psychologist about this topic and you'll be enlightened. These are typical (and i believe, real) claims, typical denials, and typical retaliatory personal attacks on the victim. This has to be stopped! It's not ok!

civilwarbuff · Oct 15, 2016

Randalll said:
Has a definition unlike the one thought all these years. Thanks. With that part covered, I would hope it should still be allowed to harshly criticize the professional liars at CBS ABC NBC NPR NYT AP who have been deceiving the population for decades and who are now destroying the entire life of Donald Trump while they protect a god-mocking Marxist race-baiting traitor in Hillary. That should be okay, right?

Go for it but make sure you can back up your claims cuz you will certainly be asked to...

momto3girls · Oct 15, 2016

The Republican party has turned into a society of paranoid, conspiracy theorists! And the Christians have followed suit. What happened to looking for the good in people, loving your neighbor, forgiveness, not judging, turning the other cheek, etc? THIS is what's put the bad taste in mouth about this whole thing. It's made me question their (Christians) real motive. After all, in the end it doesn't really matter who you voted for, it's how you treated people throughout your life, right? I try to live my life like a good human being, not a person with a label like Christian or Republican. We all need to work together, help each other out, build each other up, or we fall as a divided, broken society.

civilwarbuff · Oct 15, 2016

momto3girls said:
I think the reason they're coming forward now is because he claimed that what he said in that video were just words so they're saying it wasn't just words, it was also actions. I'm so ashamed of people dismissing their claims because of the timing. It's hard enough for women to experience this kind of assault but when it's done by someone in a position of power, it magnifies it because they already feel powerless. Now they're supposed to come forward with the claims immediately afterwards?? Talk to any psychologist about this topic and you'll be enlightened. These are typical (and i believe, real) claims, typical denials, and typical retaliatory personal attacks on the victim. This has to be stopped! It's not ok!

No woman should ever be sexually assaulted, I don't think anyone here would believe that for a second. However, there needs to be some corroborating evidence otherwise it goes to a "he said vs she said" and of course the one who suffers most is the one accused unless they can absolutely disprove the allegation. Unfortunately the accuser is not held to the same standard to absolutely prove the allegation. But once the allegation is made the damage is done proof or no proof. Unfortunately the media is sensatiionalizing the allegations without asking for supporting evidence which favors hrc; but they know that......

Major1 · Oct 15, 2016

momto3girls said:
I think the reason they're coming forward now is because he claimed that what he said in that video were just words so they're saying it wasn't just words, it was also actions. I'm so ashamed of people dismissing their claims because of the timing. It's hard enough for women to experience this kind of assault but when it's done by someone in a position of power, it magnifies it because they already feel powerless. Now they're supposed to come forward with the claims immediately afterwards?? Talk to any psychologist about this topic and you'll be enlightened. These are typical (and i believe, real) claims, typical denials, and typical retaliatory personal attacks on the victim. This has to be stopped! It's not ok!

I am aware of your comment. However, we must realize that I can then say whatever I want to say even if it was 20 or 30 years ago.

With the implications of these comments being so very high, it seems to me that there has to be some kind of verification that had to take place.

If you remember, when the affairs of Mr. Clinton came out, Mrs. Clinton lead the attack on those women and vilified them and made them criminals. Were those women in some way worse or better than those we see today????

In the re-election of Mr Clinton in 1996, all we heard form the press and everyone else is that character "DID NOT MATTER. WHAT HE DID THEN DID NOT MATTER TO WHAT HE IS TODAY".

What and why has that all of a sudden changed with Mr. Trump????

I do not know you and do not want to be argumentative but your argument seems disingenuous to me.

Major1 · Oct 15, 2016

momto3girls said:
The Republican party has turned into a society of paranoid, conspiracy theorists! And the Christians have followed suit. What happened to looking for the good in people, loving your neighbor, forgiveness, not judging, turning the other cheek, etc? THIS is what's put the bad taste in mouth about this whole thing. It's made me question their (Christians) real motive. After all, in the end it doesn't really matter who you voted for, it's how you treated people throughout your life, right? I try to live my life like a good human being, not a person with a label like Christian or Republican. We all need to work together, help each other out, build each other up, or we fall as a divided, broken society.

Come on now. You have just let the cat out of the bag. You are condemning the Repubs. and leaving the Dems alone.

BOTH are equally at fault. For heavens sake, you are condemning one party and some how leaving out the fact that the Dem. party of Mrs. Clinton broke the law!!!!

She did not say something, she did something. She deleted and destroyed the compromising emails AFTER they were subpoenaed by congress. That is breaking the law and somehow we just look over that????

Randalll · Oct 15, 2016

momto3girls said:
The Republican party has turned into a society of paranoid, conspiracy theorists!

You are one of the last out there yet to figure out that a conspiracy truly is going on. Time to devote more energy learning what is occurring and who the players are. I recommend beginning at Newsbusters. They deconstruct the lying "news" programs from CBS ABC NBC every day.

What happened to looking for the good in people, loving your neighbor, forgiveness, not judging, turning the other cheek, etc?

You have liberalism mixed in with the Bible there. Tell me, was John the Baptist looking for the good in people while calling those nearby a brood of vipers? There is a time for TELLING TRUTH that is exemplified in scripture and largely missing in our toothless churches today.

After all, in the end it doesn't really matter who you voted for, it's how you treated people throughout your life, right?

Teaching truth and confronting liars is a very loving way to treat people and stand up for God.

We all need to work together, help each other out, build each other up, or we fall as a divided, broken society.

We are already broken. There are evil liars teaching the masses to vote their own destruction. Citizens in this country are called on to get informed and take action toward the betterment of their land. Even Jesus chastised some for not properly understanding history and their time.[/quote][/QUOTE]

Major1 · Oct 15, 2016

Randalll said:
You are one of the last out there yet to figure out that a conspiracy truly is going on. Time to devote more energy learning what is occurring and who the players are. I recommend beginning at Newsbusters. They deconstruct the lying "news" programs from CBS ABC NBC every day.

You have liberalism mixed in with the Bible there. Tell me, was John the Baptist looking for the good in people while calling those nearby a brood of vipers? There is a time for TELLING TRUTH that is exemplified in scripture and largely missing in our toothless churches today.

Teaching truth and confronting liars is a very loving way to treat people and stand up for God.

We are already broken. There are evil liars teaching the masses to vote their own destruction. Citizens in this country are called on to get informed and take action toward the betterment of their land. Even Jesus chastised some for not properly understanding history and their time.

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I agree. It seems to me that there is something evil going on all-around us.

Are we allowing Satan to manipulate us into submission????

Is it time for Donald to bow out? (MOVED)

I think Trump should:

Step down from the candidacy

Continue to run

Not sure at this point

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