Is it time for Donald to bow out? (MOVED)

[civilwarbuff]

So 2016 election is the battle of the turd pool.

Too bad so many people seem eager to jump in the turd pool with them.......

 

[redleghunter]

The sad part is that anyone of the GOP runners in the primary could have taken out hrc; but the electorate spoke and this i what we got and now we got a mess.

I believe the younger generation is flocking to Johnson's independent run. I could be wrong maybe some here will sound off.

 

[redleghunter]

I think Donald is smarter than that.

The prideful make serious errors often.

 

[redleghunter]

Too bad so many people seem eager to jump in the turd pool with them.......

A fate worse than Sodom and Gomorrah awaits us.

 

[redleghunter]

Well 24 posts thus far and reasoned adult conversation and frankly honest.

Hat tip to @civilwarbuff for a good OP and posters keeping things out of the gutter.

 

[civilwarbuff]

That is why I posted it here instead of new & current events......

 

[dogs4thewin]

You summed it up well. I will note even before the recent news on Trump that pool was already full of O Henry bars on both sides.

So 2016 election is the battle of the turd pool. You nailed it.

Too bad the third option is no better.

Perhaps this election cycle will be the death notice for the two party system.

Frankly I believe Christians should separate themselves from both parties.

I REFUSE to NOT vote. The ONLY way I would not vote is if for some reason I was deemed unfit to do so mentally.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

"I was talking to a TV personality while on a bus for a gossip rag TV show, and I had no idea that I was being recorded!" If that's the claim, then it's ridiculous.

It apparently was an interview Trump had with Billy Bush. Whether this hot microphone is before or after the actual recorded interview I don't know.
It's telling about the Network that kept the audio, that body of persons that chose to keep the microphone on and record the conversations without Trump's knowledge. And what is seemingly missed is that if Trump is said to need to depart the campaign trail for his remarks, then Billy Bush, who hosts a Hollywood TV show with women, should resign his job instead of apologizing as he's doing now. As is Trump.

Because Bush can be heard yucking it up as Trump talks. And even add's his own remarks to Trump's narrative as he goads him on.

Something I think we Christians need to remember is this is a secret audio recording that was sneakily recorded by a Network and its employees. That's dishonest. And it is 11 years old!
When Donald Trump came to Christ all of his past sins were put under the blood of Jesus. And God remembers his sins no more. Being this is an 11 year old audio, we have to consider when Trump came to Christ , which was not that long ago from what I've found so far. (Article) And realize that that Donald on the tape is not the born again Donald running for office today.http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/26/u...-believe-it-evangelical-leader-says.html?_r=0

This is a Clinton move! Dirty politics. What was she and her husband doing 11 years ago?
She's a self-professed Christian. Do her actions demonstrate that? Especially in the case of the illegal server and 33,000 emails she had destroyed by her attorneys.

Where's the Christian charity for one of our own in both camps really. But with Trump, all the dirt on him is old. All the dirt on Hillary is recent. Trump is what they call a baby Christian. Hillary's not.

Choose wisely my friends as to whom you'll cast the first stone toward.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I believe the younger generation is flocking to Johnson's independent run. I could be wrong maybe some here will sound off.

If I thought Johnson even had a small chance I would vote for him ( I am 25).

 

[HannahT]

Sigh. The video is very crass - to say the least. It sounds like typical locker room talk, and that isn't an excuse. It is what it is. I'm sure he isn't the first celebrity that acts one way in front of people, and is a complete different in private at times. They have their public role, and then you have the private person. Yeah, he can yuck it up with the best of them.

He has come this far, and leaving would send this country into a tailspin. So, no...just finish it I guess.

 

[civilwarbuff]

Sigh. The video is very crass - to say the least. It sounds like typical locker room talk, and that isn't an excuse. It is what it is. I'm sure he isn't the first celebrity that acts one way in front of people, and is a complete different in private at times. They have their public role, and then you have the private person. Yeah, he can yuck it up with the best of them.

He has come this far, and leaving would send this country into a tailspin. So, no...just finish it I guess.

Actually, there are people who talk and behave that way regularly; they are called "comedians" and people actually pay to listen to it. At least now they can hear it for free......

 

[rockytopva]

If I had to classify Donald Trump with one sentence it would be with, "he is a sleazy type of guy." And I say that to his shame.

 

[rockytopva]

As a matter of fact the only government building I would recommend Donald Trump in is within the walls of the Ancora state penitentiary

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

As a matter of fact the only government building I would recommend Donal Trump in is within the walls of the Ancora state penitentiary

On what charges?

And do you feel the same for Hillary going to a Federal prison?

 

[Winken]

We'd better hope that the Dems don't take over the House and Senate. That would be a disaster. Hillary could appoint the Supremes, federal prosecutors, her administrative staff, secretaries of the various governmental agencies, along with this:

"My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders."

I'm sure the Russians, Chinese, and North Koreans would celebrate that.

With that, I'm in a quandary.......... undecided. From an authentic Christian POV, neither candidate is fit for the office.

Pray for peace.

 

[rockytopva]

On what charges?

And do you feel the same for Hillary going to a Federal prison?

Yea! Her too! I voted unashamably for Mike Huckabee in the primary... And would not have minded Kasich, Rubio, or Carson... I just don't like the crooked nature of those running in this years election.

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

Yea! Her too! I voted unashamably for Mike Huckabee in the primary... And would not have minded Kasich, Rubio, or Carson... I just don't like the crooked nature of those running in this years election.

I know what you mean. I'm not voting in November. I'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. Especially when voting just to vote would have me giving my OK to that evil of choice. One that my vote would tell I'm OK with my being ruled over by evil.

I just can't do that to myself. They both suck quite frankly. I'm leaving the sucksless crowd and abstaining from giving either sucker my OK.

 

[jargew]

Hmmm, why not to vote for Trump (AND no, I do not endorse Hillary, she's a weak candidate).

1. He's sort of an oaf.
2. He's consistently degrading to women
3. Racist
4. Greedy and selfish, willing to exploit business partners for his own gain.
5. Liar.
6. His appearance in several Playboy videos (I guess this may be the least of his poor decisions....).

To make it clear, I really do not like Hillary.
But, I think there's a political machine in place that ensures not too much change will take place, so no matter who gets elected, nothing much will happen. There is no "doomsday scenario" with either candidate.
I think Trump's only good quality that I can think of, is that he will try to get things accomplished. The problem is these things may be very misguided.
If Hillary is elected, I predict status quo. Nothing good will happen, nothing bad will happen. The economy will remain mildly stagnant, and unemployment will continue to rise at a slow rate.

BUT, the real question is this (in my opinion):
WHY Can't a country of 320 Million people find a decent, intelligent, honest, caring human being to be president.

Our political system is diseased .... (in my opinion).

 

[rockytopva]

I know what you mean. I'm not voting in November. I'm tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. Especially when voting just to vote would have me giving my OK to that evil of choice. One that my vote would tell I'm OK with my being ruled over by evil.

I just can't do that to myself. They both suck quite frankly. I'm leaving the sucksless crowd and abstaining from giving either sucker my OK.

I would have even went with the democrat Joe Biden rather than Trump. But my goodness.... Clinton or Trump... Yikes!

 

[VanillaSunflowers]

Why shouldn't a country have more than one person to vote for? We should have top three in either party. Popular vote makes the call. Give the power back to the people to actually vote and help put someone in office. Maybe then we'll start to get more involved in politics and take our country back. Make government really work for us. Rather than expand itself so as to make us the one's that not only work for, but in some areas of America, fear.

At this point all the dirty "breaking news" about either camp is more like a mud wrestling contest. They're both filthy dirty. But it's a matter of who's mud is deeper, older, and has been slung the furthest. And to whom did it attach?
That's why I think it is a matter of discretion as to which dirty player, Donald or Hillary, played in such a way as to endanger America with their behavior?

Trump has earned a long list of adjectives attached to his business legacy.But Hillary has those that extend throughout a long political history. And she was entrusted as Secretary of State when she committed some of the worst offenses.
All of which jeopardized America. Or, cost American lives.

In short, which one entrusted to protect America as a matter of their job failed?

And in a resume situation with the common public that we are to the rich and famous, would any one of us be promoted to a job that was higher paying with a higher degree of responsibility, if we failed in our current position?

Then why would we the common public that Hillary supposedly said she has a hard time relating to, my paraphrase not her exact words, vote Hillary to the office of President? When she failed as Secretary of State, and resigned in disgrace.

Her campaign and Obama keep saying she's highly qualified, the highest qualified, for the job. How's she qualified for President when she's unsophisticated and naive and not even qualified to be trusted with highly classified emails?