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Is it time for Donald to bow out? (MOVED)

I think Trump should:

  • Step down from the candidacy

  • Continue to run

  • Not sure at this point


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Oh, stop. I've already mentioned that most financial scams some seed money in order to rake in a lot more for the scammers. I'm actually surprised that you'd try to make lemonade out of this lemon. :sigh:

So you would favor Trump in this situation?
How has he been better with the Haiti people than the Clintons?
Did he set up a charity that actually helped people before the Election?


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So you would favor Trump in this situation?
Have to. We get two people to choose from. A comparison of the two leaves no doubt that Clinton would be much worse for the country. It's not much more complicated than that.
 
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My oldest daughter, who is a Christian, told me months ago that she would never vote for him. She said that every time she watched him speak he gave her the creeps. It appears that she had good reason to get those feelings about him.
But you know, the way you feel right now about Trump is the same way I felt about Bill Clinton when it came out that he had taken advantage of a young intern named Monica. I was so embarrassed for our nation and for his family.

While neither prospect does not seem to be good, the best option is Hilary at this point because Trump is clueless so as to run this country.


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My oldest daughter, who is a Christian, told me months ago that she would never vote for him. She said that every time she watched him speak he gave her the creeps. It appears that she had good reason to get those feelings about him.
But you know, the way you feel right now about Trump is the same way I felt about Bill Clinton when it came out that he had taken advantage of a young intern named Monica. I was so embarrassed for our nation and for his family.
But it isn't "the same." Bill did something, and in the White House.
 
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I was educated as an accountant. The first day of my tax accounting class we were handed a form with about 1/4 the page filled...it represented the very first tax return and we were also given a quote by a member sponsoring/enacting it...name escapes me...quote, I'll paraphrase, It is every man's duty to pay the least amount of tax possible.
That is the principle or rather was the principle of taxation.
My how things have changed!!! Trending toward socialism.
A good, robust economy is backed by many diverse healthy businesses (I was a business owner) and businesses are an arm of the common man. They offer jobs and pay benefits and the lion's share of the employees' social security, state and federal unemployment taxes. To tax a business is to take dollars from the common man...it's just so easy for a government to do because they have re-defined businesses and the taxes are quite invisible to the employees. I could go on but won't here.
Point is Trump did right to minimize taxes...it rewards himself and is beneficial to his employees. When we sold our business government taxes took a whopping half. We struggled for years keeping our money in the business to grow it and hire needed employees...at reward time government (IRS) held it's big demanding hand out. I couldn't believe it to be legal quite frankly...not at that level. I believe in so doing we were being treated as scum!
It sounds like to me that you were honest in your business. You weren't doing things like buying yachts, fishing boats, Rolls Royce and such vehicles, and ski condos in order to reduce your tax liabilities.
 
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While neither prospect does not seem to be good, the best option is Hilary at this point because Trump is clueless so as to run this country. ..

I thought you were not voting for him because he didn't do something for the Haitian people.
 
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Are you actually attacking me over this? Seriously? Personal insults are not a Christian trait my friend.

its a common saying about trying to justify corrupt behavior,i would complete it but this is a Christian forum and its not an insult.
Anyone who has common basic knowledge of knowing how to read people knows that Trump is clueless and is merely a hot headed individual who should in no way make decisions for this country. His answers were horrible.

In your opinion perhaps,others don't think so, vague gratuitous insults like "clueless" are an indication of a weak argument,Trump has been and is very successful,Clinton is very successful.......they obviously have a clue about success by this world's standards.
 
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In your opinion perhaps,others don't think so, vague gratuitous insults like "clueless" are an indication of a weak argument,Trump has been and is very successful,Clinton is very successful.......they obviously have a clue about success by this world's standards.

Thank you for saying it! Although this is a very common, almost obligatory, insult to throw at the candidate who's not of one's choice, these two are both quite capable of running the affairs of the presidency. In fact, both are better qualified than Obama was when he was elected.
 
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Thank you for saying it! Although this is a very common, almost obligatory, insult to throw at the candidate who's not of one's choice, these two are both quite capable of running the affairs of the presidency. In fact, both are better qualified than Obama was when he was elected.

I have always found that its the ideology of the individual that people support,the candidate is just the vehicle and they will usually excuse anything they do in pursuit of the power to carry out that ideology.
 
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I will start. There are a lot of turds floating around in Trumps end of the pool; something tells me there are going to be quite a few more. For almost 70 years he has lived and said as he thought fit without caring about consequences; those actions have now come home to roost. In HRC's end of the pool there are also a lot of turds floating around and probably quite a few still to appear. Since she has been with Bill they have been accused of corruption and cronyism everywhere they have gone.
So I see a choice between a boorish, loutish braggert and a suspected corrupt politician.....The proverbial devil and the deep blue sea. For the first time in my voting life I have to seriously consider leaving my X out of the presidential vote. Anyone else have an opinion? And as I said please keep it civil.

Basically the same sentiments...
 
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so meanwhile with the newest WikiLeaks...<br /><br />If everybody’s watching, you know, all of the back room discussions and the deals, you know, then people get a little nervous, to say the least, So, you need both a public and a private position.” Hillary Clinton<br /><br />and in a special bank speech...<br /><br />"My dream is a hemispheric common market, with open trade and open borders," Hillary Clinton<br /><br />Essentially, she is saying America shouldn't have sovereignty. We are better off being like the European Union.<br />From this we can assume that Hillary is a globalist who cares nothing about the United States ,or the people ,who she hides her true agenda from while seeking votes.

Why ask a womaniser to step down while we allow a traitor to run?

Which begs the question of how either is the party presidential candidate for their respective party.

Perhaps neither are qualified to be running.
 
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I thought you were not voting for him because he didn't do something for the Haitian people.

No. I am not voting for him because he is a hothead bully who is only interested in power and himself.

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No. I am not voting for him because he is a hothead bully who is only interested in power and himself.

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Well, wouldn't you have to say the same about hrc....at least about the power part?
 
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No. I am not voting for him because he is a hothead bully who is only interested in power and himself.

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You're entitled; but personally, I find that to be a rather weak reason for not voting for Trump--if you're considering voting for Hillary instead.

If you're not, then I can understand.
 
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A "few disgruntled people"?

You mean the Haitian people?

Excellent video!
However, there was nothing in there about the Clinton Foundation. What is in there is the same cronyism that we see in things like Halliburton getting no bid contracts for work in Iraq before the war was even supposedly decided on.
 
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Excellent video!
However, there was nothing in there about the Clinton Foundation. What is in there is the same cronyism that we see in things like Halliburton getting no bid contracts for work in Iraq before the war was even supposedly decided on.

Why do you say the video is excellent?
 
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It sounds like to me that you were honest in your business. You weren't doing things like buying yachts, fishing boats, Rolls Royce and such vehicles, and ski condos in order to reduce your tax liabilities.
Yes, extremely honest...saying Trump was dishonest, I don't know of it.
 
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I'm just blown away with all the hate Trump is getting and being told to step down and yet people ignore Hillarys evil past and comments. I mean for example Obama said he knew nothing about her emails. And two days ago records show Obama DID know about them. As did the FBI. And both tried to cover it all up. They say its "Bigger then watergate". Something so enormous you'd think Hillary would go to jail or be ran out of town like Nixon was. And yet we are focused on Trump saying some "bad words". Who cares.

You know the difference between Hillary and Trumps words? Nothing. Hillary just is smart enough to keep her evil hate filled comments mostly to himself. Doesn't mean she doesn't think them. And yet we act like shes a saint because she doesn't speak as loud as him. Crazy.
 
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