Is it pride to say we are dead to sin? Is it humiltiy to say we are only sinners?

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It is sad indeed that we as "believers" are so afraid of appearing proud to say that we are freed from the grip of sin, even if it contradicts what Jesus has plainly said. It is sad to think ourselves as humble in saying that we are still only miserable sinners, saved by grace. In truth, the opposite is true!

Who do we truly want to approve of us, our friends, our family, our church mates, the world? Or do we want to please God, no matter what anyone eles thinks or says? At the judgement seat of Christ, there will be God, there will be us, and the books will be opened. What an amazing miracle to be able to walk in in confidence, knowing that we walked as God wanted, as living sacrifices, with single eyes, having run our race as if there is only one prize and we have the blessed assurance that we will hear the sweetest words man can ever hear.....

"Well done, thou good and faithful (faith-filled) servant."

Is this even possible for us? Can any truly say that they are God's, walking as living sacrifices, 100%? Oh, yes, it is YOUR heritage. If we walk in the Spirit, God promises us that we WILL NOT fulfill the lusts of the flesh.

So why are we not walking there? What is the problem in our theology that is allowing this to not be seen in His children, even if they are earnest in their desire to be obedient and flee evil?

Unbelief is at the root of this lukewarm state, causing us to walk with one foot in the world and one in God's kingdom thinking it normal to bring forth both sweet and brackish water, both sin and good works.

Unbelief is why we think it near heresy for any to say they are kept by the power of God through faith and that the power of sin is broken in their hearts and now is working its way outward. If we are to be honest with one another, we are just like the children of Israel, wandering in the desert of Sinai, refusing to hope, even for a minute, that we can indeed escape the grasp of the old nature.

Bit listen! God has told us plainly that unlike the law, which leaned strongly on OUR strength, OUR resolves, OUR self efforts, the glorious truth of the new covenant is to be on HIS shoulders to keep us from falling, and that it is sure for He will actually CAUSE US to walk as obedient, holy children, despite our weaknesses.

May I ask all here a question? How can we ever walk as living sacrifices as long as the battle rages within us? How can we ever be expected to bring every thought into subjection to the obedience of Christ, if we cannot do it with our bodies? How shall we ever convince an unbelieving world of the amazing delivering power of our God from the grip of the old wretched man if we cannot stare them in the eyes and tell them: "The Gospel works! Jesus set me free indeed!"

Look, I know it is hard to grasp what I am sharing, for we have all thought for so long that it is on our shoulders to stop sinning and start acting like sons and daughters of God. Heck, I walked that road, and HARD, for 38 years. I understand the temptation to just "trust in God" and relax, still short of the promised land. But let us beware resting short of our deliverance, hollowing out a "contentment" that does not ally itself with godliness. Forgiveness is the way out of Egypt and praise God for it. But now God wants us to take the next step in grace, to believe that it will teach us how to live as obedient, holy, JOY-FILLED children.

In these final days, God is not going to let satan triumph over His children. The church of Jesus Christ wil not start with a bang and go out with a whimper. NEVER! He is going to restore that which the cankerworm has eaten. He is going to pour out the latter rain, and it shall dwarf even the former rain in the book of Acts. It is coming for us and if He has to chase us down from behind to love us into our full deliverance for sin and the old nature, He will do exactly that. :)

He is going to have a people who see that they can NEVER walk as He desires, until they abandon their trying as futile and fall into the loving arms of their God, as they plead with Him to "do it for them". THAT is the amazing new covenant. New hearts, new minds, Christ IN us, causing us to walk pleasing to Him. Can God ne THAT good? You bet He can.... and is!

Do we really "get it"? He is the potter. We have labored in vain who have tried, after the grace of forgiveness, to clean ourselves up, to be "good children", to walk in anything even approaching holiness. We have tried to build our own house, but God must be the builder of our house. It must be on His shoulders, and we must see again how strong He wants to be IN us. He will do amazing things in us, when we finally tell Him it is our only hope that He does exactly that!

We have an enemy, one besides satan. and he is a traitor, someone who will let satan in to reek havoc whenever he desires.

What good are walls of protection if we have an evil Rehab the harlot, betraying us, opening the gates for the enemy to pull us back into darkness?

What good is armor, even if it is crafted by God Himself, if there dwells inside the armor a traitor, refusing to hold up the shield of faith, refusing to wield the sword of "It is written..." against the enemy of our souls?

What good is it if God indeed makes sure that we will never be tempted above our ability to resist, and instead even provides us with a way of escape so that we do NOT take the bait, if when He does, we refuse to take that escape so that we do not sin?

Jesus said that if our hand offends us, CUT IT OFF. He said that if our eye offends us, CUT IT OUT. Do you know the eye that keeps offending us? Our "I". There is the culprit, our old man. Oh, we may be saved, but we are certainly not safe, not yet.

God has spoken:

"The name of the Lord is a strong and mighty tower, and the righteous runs in and is SAFE."

Until we clothe ourselves with His righteousness, we remain prey for the enemy. We remain vulnerable, and sin stiull has an opportunity to harden our hearts, and keep us from enduring to the end.

Look back at the heroes of faith, urging us on today to believe our God. These were men just as we are. Weak, easily swayed by this world, able to be tempted and fall. But there was one difference. They looked away from their sin, their sickness, their weakness, to the God of all comfort, the God of all grace, the God who has promised to cause us to will AND to do of HIS good pleasure. By their faith alone, they pleased their God and allowed His power to make them overcomers.

I beseech you, dear brothers and sisters in the Lord. Let all of us abandon our efforts to be good enough for God. Admit your total powerlessness and then look up to our amazing God. He simply wants us to acknowledge that our walk will never lead to true holiness and that He can (and WILL!) do for us what we cannot do for ourselves.

Let us go back to Romans 6 and KNOW the things He told us that we must know.

KNOW that when Christ died, just as surely did your old nature.

KNOW that when Christ rose again, making an open shame of satan, He took us with Him and led captivity captive. He made us new creatures, light, not a mixture of darkness and light, and delivered us from the hand of the one who hates us.

Now, KNOWING these things are true, we have a foothold to stand on in our weak, wavering faith, Gods footholds of truth. God now asks us something we must do. It is not a "work". It requires no "effort". God asks that we come into agreement with Him. He asks that we simply exercise that little bitty seed faith He has given to every child of His. Do not fear that you do not have enough. Do not fear that you are not "ready enough". LOL, that is the point in our doing this! We will NEVER be ready if it is up to us!

Now, do what He said. Reckon yourself as dead to sin. Divest yourself of your old filthy garments, your flesh. Make sure you close the door behind you. You are new. You are free. Believe that in the same way that jesus died to sin, so did you! And how did Jesus die to sin? ONCE. That is our heritage...once. Not a lifetime of trying. We must have NOW faith. Believe that you receive it, and you shall have it! Amen?

It died, remember? If you are dead, the law has no more sway over you. The strength of sin is what? The law! Put ON the new garment He has provided for you, the new man. Clothe yourself with the wedding garment, the whole armor of God, the new nature. PUT ON the Lord Jesus Christ. It is that easy. Believe you are new, not the old struggler you once were. Let the promises of God begin to take hold, for we serve a God who cannot...CANNOT lie. If as you are being established in this new amazing faith, where we have no more sin consciousness, we do slip? IF (not when, IF) we slip, we confess it, we acknowledge that it happened for one reason, our faith is not yet complete, and we believe again. We hold up our shield of faith again. God WILL establish us in the faith. it is called the highway OF holiness, and we are told that a man, though he be a fool shall not err therein! We qualify! :D

May God open our eyes with the eyesalve of repentance from dead works and of faith towards God. This covenant is on HIS shoulders, and always was. He simply asks that we agree with Him, and please Him simply by being bold enough, audacious enough, desperate enough, wise enough, to make our tree good by reckoning it so, and stop trying to do God's job of producing fruits on it.

I love you all. You can do this, I know it.

Blessings to all.

Gideon
 

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Romans 6:8-12 (KJV)
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.


The word 'reckon' is the Greek word (G3049) logizomai. It means 'to count', we are to make a mental decision and decide to no longer willfully sin. It is a dedication against sin, and it is followed up with the evidence that this decision is to not allow ourselves to have sin 'reign', or rule our lives any longer.

It does not mean we will never ever fail the Lord, nor does it mean we should no longer repent and be humble for our sins and 'missing that mark' of not wanting to sin.

Some Christians think sin is normal, and it is okay to live a life polluted with sins. Others, take the determination encouraged here, and mentally decide to no longer choose that sinful life style. it means we are to reckon the victory of Jesus on the cross to be ours, and to choose to submit to the lifestyle He desires for us.

If we say we have no sin, we are liars... so says the Bible.. It tells us to 'confess our faults' and failures to this choosing not to sin to others, so as not to become proud of a pretend holiness. We are to 'confess our sins' and let Him that is faithful and just keep washing us in the cleansing blood. That is to be our new choice.

We are no longer obeying the temptations and lusts of the flesh, but obeying and serving gladly and lovingly our Lord and Savior.

If sin could 'reign' in our mortal bodies, and it must be able to, if we are commanded not to let it, then sin could be a tyrant kind of ruler and keep us bound in sins, keep us fulfilling fleshly lusts, and give us a horrible life. Some in the church try to live that way... We are not to let that happen. Jesus made a way, an easy way, to serve Him, by choosing to make the flesh not the choice of our pleasing. We dedicate our lives to living for Jesus.
 
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Romans 6:8-12 (KJV)
8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him:
9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him.
10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God.
11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.


The word 'reckon' is the Greek word (G3049) logizomai. It means 'to count', we are to make a mental decision and decide to no longer willfully sin. It is a dedication against sin, and it is followed up with the evidence that this decision is to not allow ourselves to have sin 'reign', or rule our lives any longer.

It does not mean we will never ever fail the Lord, nor does it mean we should no longer repent and be humble for our sins and 'missing that mark' of not wanting to sin.

Some Christians think sin is normal, and it is okay to live a life polluted with sins. Others, take the determination encouraged here, and mentally decide to no longer choose that sinful life style. it means we are to reckon the victory of Jesus on the cross to be ours, and to choose to submit to the lifestyle He desires for us.

If we say we have no sin, we are liars... so says the Bible.. It tells us to 'confess our faults' and failures to this choosing not to sin to others, so as not to become proud of a pretend holiness. We are to 'confess our sins' and let Him that is faithful and just keep washing us in the cleansing blood. That is to be our new choice.

We are no longer obeying the temptations and lusts of the flesh, but obeying and serving gladly and lovingly our Lord and Savior.

If sin could 'reign' in our mortal bodies, and it must be able to, if we are commanded not to let it, then sin could be a tyrant kind of ruler and keep us bound in sins, keep us fulfilling fleshly lusts, and give us a horrible life. Some in the church try to live that way... We are not to let that happen. Jesus made a way, an easy way, to serve Him, by choosing to make the flesh not the choice of our pleasing. We dedicate our lives to living for Jesus.
Brother, we can make all the decision we want, and yet, decades after we have been born again, we will see no more victory than we did at the beginning.

We must do exactly as we are told, to believe that sin has lost its power over us. Why? Because we are DEAD. Paul is clear. He shows that the law, whether it be the written law, or our own version of it through our conscience, it is good, but powerless to set us free indeed. Why? The law empowers sin in us! The strength of sin is the LAW!

He goes on to show that there is but one way to get freed from the authority the law has over us. Death. And praise God, that is exactly what God did for us, for His death was ours as well. "Born again" has far more reaching significance than we have ever up till now seen. But we are all about to discover the power that our new birth really holds.

When He tells us to reckon ourselves as dead indeed unto sin, that is exactly what He means. We must add that truth into our spiritual inventory. We are dead and our life is hid with Christ in God. Is that truth in our spiritual bank account? If not, no wonder we still walk as paupers and not children of the Most High God.

Do you see? If we are now dead, not "slowly dying", the law has no grip over us, and if the law has lost its grip, then the strength of sin has been broken!

But until we believe this, arm ourselves with these truths, fueled by hearts that long to become living sacrifices and yet admit that our way makes it simply impossible to do so, it will profit us nothing, not being mixed with faith in them that hear it.

Brother, be honest. Will ANY ever get free indeed as Christ promised us by following the path we have all been led to walk on? Will we ever walk as true overcomers on this path? Our way has led to the promises of God being great for embroidered wall hangings, but pipe dreams for any who truly wants to know how to possess their vessel in sanctification and honor.

No more. The day of our awakening, our day of FREE INDEED, is arriving. It is the last days. A new day is dawning. The church, long asleep and going through the motions, thinking that obedience is on OUR shoulders.....no wonder we have wandered over every high hill. No wonder many true called saints have left the church, discouraged beyond hope for they KNOW they can never measure us. What they are not being told is that God can and will cause them to do of will and to do of His good pleasure

God has spoken. He promised to cause us.. CAUSE US to obey, to become living sacrifices. See it in Ezekiel 36, where God tells us of the coming new covenant. Obedience, the cornerstone of the old covenant is to be a gift in the new! Self control, a necessity under the old covenant, is to be a fruit of abiding in Christ under the new! We have been led into lies and forgotten His benefits! Obedience is to be on His strong shoulders and the word calls it "the obedience of faith". Even the weakest among us will be able to stare down satan and say:

"No more. I am more than a conqueror through Him that loves me....that LIVES in me!"

God is awakening us all, awakening us to HIS righteousness, His strength, and all He asks is that we admit our way has led to failure and discouragement and to a Christianity that promises liberty, but sets none free. It has lead to a Christianity that promises much but delvers little. It has led to His children being healed only slightly, saying 'peace, peace", when if the truth were known, there is no peace.

I mean no disrespect. If God had not rescued me from ME, my old wretched man, my own legalistic unbelief four years ago, I could not stand here and say that our God does not lie. But I have tasted and seen His promises, and testify to any who will listen that they work. Let us abandon our feeble and failing efforts and our unbelief and simply do what God told us to do...ask.

"I shall yet be inquired of by the House of Israel, to do it for them."

Spoken with love and not judgment,

Your friend Gideon
 
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Romans 6:10-11 NKJV
For the death that He died, HE DIED TO SIN ONCE FOR ALL; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. [11] LIKEWISE YOU ALSO, RECKON YOURSELVES toT BE DEAD INDEED TO SIN, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

The question is how did Jesus die to sin once for all? We are supposed to reckon ourselves dead to sin the way Jesus died to sin! I think we can all see "likewise" at the start of Romans 6:11.

Did Jesus die to sin in His actions or His thoughts? Of course not because He is sinless! How did He die to sin? He died to the penalty, the imputation, the condemnation and the guilt of sin once for all! When you sin, you have to reckon yourself dead to the penalty, the imputation, the condemnation and the guilt of sin!

The penalty of sins:

Romans 3:24 NLT
Yet God, with undeserved kindness, declares that we are righteous. He did this through Christ Jesus WHEN HE FREED US FROM THE PENALTY FOR OUR SINS.

The imputation of sins:

Romans 4:8 NKJV
Blessed is the man to whom the LORD SHALL NOT IMPUTE SIN."

The condemnation of sins:

Romans 8:1 NASB
Therefore there is now NO CONDEMNATION for those who are in Christ Jesus.

The guilt of sin:

Hebrews 10:22 AMP
Let us all come forward and draw near with true (honest and sincere) hearts in unqualified assurance and absolute conviction engendered by faith (by that leaning of the entire human personality on God in absolute trust and confidence in His power, wisdom, and goodness), HAVING OUR HEARTS SPRINKLED AND PURIFIED FROM A GUILTY (EVIL) CONSCIENCE and our bodies cleansed with pure water.
 
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Romans 6:10-11 NKJV
For the death that He died, HE DIED TO SIN ONCE FOR ALL; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. [11] LIKEWISE YOU ALSO, RECKON YOURSELVES toT BE DEAD INDEED TO SIN, but alive to God in Christ Jesus our Lord.

The question is how did Jesus die to sin once for all? We are supposed to reckon ourselves dead to sin the way Jesus died to sin! I think we can all see "likewise" at the start of Romans 6:11.

Did Jesus die to sin in His actions or His thoughts? Of course not because He is sinless! How did He die to sin? He died to the penalty, the imputation, the condemnation and the guilt of sin once for all! When you sin, you have to reckon yourself dead to the penalty, the imputation, the condemnation and the guilt of sin!

The penalty of sins:

Romans 3:24 NLT
Yet God, with undeserved kindness, declares that we are righteous. He did this through Christ Jesus WHEN HE FREED US FROM THE PENALTY FOR OUR SINS.

The imputation of sins:

Romans 4:8 NKJV
Blessed is the man to whom the LORD SHALL NOT IMPUTE SIN."

The condemnation of sins:

Romans 8:1 NASB
Therefore there is now NO CONDEMNATION for those who are in Christ Jesus.

The guilt of sin:

Hebrews 10:22 AMP
Let us all come forward and draw near with true (honest and sincere) hearts in unqualified assurance and absolute conviction engendered by faith (by that leaning of the entire human personality on God in absolute trust and confidence in His power, wisdom, and goodness), HAVING OUR HEARTS SPRINKLED AND PURIFIED FROM A GUILTY (EVIL) CONSCIENCE and our bodies cleansed with pure water.
You forget one thing, the most important. We are delivered from the power of darkness, and there are multitudes of scriptures that tell us exactly that. But we are seeing through eyes of unbelief, and limit the very God of the universe inside us to forgiveness alone. We have escaped Egypt but choked on the promises of God just as surely as the Israelites did when God told them to go in and take the land. Praise God, in these final days, He will shake us awake, and lead us into the land of free indeed. Yes, He is THAT good.

The question we must ask ourselves is the same question Jesus asked the lame man at the pool of Bethesda.

"Would you be made whole?"

The lame man spoke through his experience, and his unbelief. 38 years of seeing someone get healed because he "had no man" to put him into the water first when the angel stirred the waters, and you sort of begin to rely upon excuses and stop believing it is ever goingto happen, or for that matter, even possible.

This man did not understand that the man he said he had need of was standing right in front of him, and no angel was needed to stir the waters. The man Christ Jesus.

Guys, we too have that man, who has spoken clearly that if we still commit sin, we are slaves to it and not free indeed as He promised us. Either our shield of faith is to work, or it is all a lie, and Jesus has no power to set us free.

Either God will indeed make sure we are never tempted above our abilities to withstand it, and He will provide a way of escape so we do not give into the temptation, or we are left to try to fend off satan all by ourselves and remain captive to his devices. What is truth and what is a lie?

"Is there no balm in Gilead? Is there no physician there? Why then is the health of the daughter of my people healed only slightly, saying 'peace, peace, when there is no peace."

Do we not hear our God pleading with us in these words to look at where we have fallen, admit that our walk is not what He has clearly promised for us, and cry out for Him to show us where the error is? He says:

"Only acknowledge your iniquity, that your heart is far from me"

Will we remain in our low, lukewarm, one foot in this life and one foot in the next type of religious Christianity, having a form of godliness but in truth, denying the power of it, or will we finally admit that our lack of faith is the problem, for we have thought that our flesh must "be good". At our religious best, it is all filthy rags, but how hard it is for us to hear those words. IF we are in the flesh, self will never get crucified and holiness and walking as living sacrifices will be made to not apply because we stretch grace to make it so.

But God is clear. We are NOT in the flesh if the Spirit of God is inside us. We owe the flesh nothing. Yes, we live in fleshly bodies, that have yet to be glorified, but what of our natures, our hearts? That flesh is DEAD. Our only problem is that we simply do not believe it....yet.

Lighting our lamps is the next thing on our agenda...as soon as we wake up from our half-healed sleep in Romans 7. Many say that this is our heritage, and it will remain so, as long as we are content to live and move and have our being here. Bot listen! Paul escaped. Why? He HATED his old nature, the wretched man that can both praise God and sin with the best of them. He hated that he wanted to do good but could not and hated that we wanted to cease from sinning against God but was still drawn to it like a moth to a flame.

There is one hope, one cure. Putting off our flesh, reckoning ourselves as dead to sin and putting on brand new natures that can be caused by God to obey Him, no matter what. THAT is our heritage, our birthright, and it is high time we stopped trading it for a mess of pottage.

Will WE be made whole? Or are we content to preserve our dignity with all the other lame people, comforting ourselves with the promise of forgiveness, leaning on the excuse that "we too have no man". It is a lie. Paul escaped Romans 7 and said
"Be ye followers of me, even as I am of Christ." He said:


"I am crucified with Christ, nevertheless I live, yet not I, but Christ lives in me, and the life that I now live, I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me."

Are these the words of a wretched, undelivered man?? No, dear friends, it is the testimony of a man who is every whit whole. Will we follow him into the grace that sets free indeed? I pray so.

May God forgive our blindness. Lord, give us eye salve that we might see. Let us run to put on our wedding garments, our new nature, so that the shame of our nakedness and the rebellion of a flesh that refuses to get off the throne shall not appear. Do not let sin shall rule over us any longer to bring your name into reproach. Heal us O Lord. We beseech you, breath on our weak faith and make it come alive.

God wants us free. Will we resist Him or yield to Him in faith, no matter how weak that faith may be? Guys, we have just enough! Let us come boldly before the throne of grace, to receive help, help we so desperately need in this time of trouble. It is getting darker, and the hour is late. Will we awake and let God do in us for us what we cannot ever do...walk as true sold-out living sacrifices? Or will we dig in our heels, content with our half healing, and give satan a huge advantage over us?

May all God's children hear what the Spirit is saying to the church.

Come up higher.

Blessings,

Gideon
 
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I used to be part of the Apostolic crowd and they used to PRIDE themselves on not sinning and showed no mercy to those who fell....so, with that in mind, I suppose they had 'arrived'' but didn't Jesus say the poor old sinner was more justified than those those who ticked all the boxes ?????????????
 
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I used to be part of the Apostolic crowd and they used to PRIDE themselves on not sinning and showed no mercy to those who fell....so, with that in mind, I suppose they had 'arrived'' but didn't Jesus say the poor old sinner was more justified than those those who ticked all the boxes ?????????????
The man in the temple who looked down his nose at the one broken by his sin, beating his breast, was he in the old man or the new? Was his boast in the Lord for keeping him from falling into sin, or in his own strength, grit and determination to tie the flesh up so tight that it looked defeated?

When Paul was speaking of his walk in Romans 7, the wretched man experience, crying out for deliverance, was he? Was he delivered? Indeed he was. The man in Romans 8 is the man who has abdicated his fleshly throne and self rule and fallen on the stone, broken, able to now ONLY believe. There is PLENTY of condemnation if we are walking in Romans 7. Oh, not from God, for He is urging us onward and upward to grab hold of Him as our deliverer from self and sin. But satan will literally war us out with his accusations, and if we are still in the flesh, we have no choice but to listen to him. There is but one way to shut him up. We need the earplugs of faith!

Jesus has promised us rest. And who gets to enter into that rest? Is it not he who has ceased from his own works, admitting to God (and more importantly to himself) that they are filthy rags, and who has discovered the "obedience of faith", where it is God in us, causing us to will AND to do of His good pleasure..

Is our shield up, doing what God promised it would do, quenching all the fiery arrows of the enemy, or is it down, lying in the corner as we try...and fail.... to walk as living sacrifices, still captive to the flesh? That is the key question.

There is a huge difference between a man who is kept from falling, a man who knows full well how weak he is without God in Him fighting for him, and a "clicking-tongued" legalist, who in his arrogance thinks he is more pleasing to God because he is keeping his form of the law, pleased with his outer obedience so all might see it.

God looks at our hearts, our motives and sees what we cannot. He longs to clean us from the inside out, nature FIRST. Without faith, it is literally impossible to please Him. It is time we began to earnestly contend for the faith that was once delivered to the saints. It is time we came to him in brokenness for our own wretched man walk, for only then will we be able to do the one thing God asks us to do....agree with Him and BELIEVE. We are dead, we are light. We are new. We are free indeed. When that dawns on our sin hardened, unbelieving hearts, and we too cry out for a deliverer, we will find Him.....in spades.

Blessings, Hap

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