Is it possible to be divided as a Christian?

[yesyoushould]

You can't sin without being divided. If a person is undivided then they're without sin. Are you saying Christians never commit sins?

Ask God.

 

[Radagast]

I suppose my question is about your point of view on the subject.

Personally, I view all Christians undivided. I suppose I'm conflicted by the separations.

I wish you would explain what your actual question is.

 

[yesyoushould]

I wish you would explain what your actual question is.

Are Christians divided or not? If so, how come? I don't get it.

 

[dms1972]

Im still not sure what you mean. Usually something makes one ask a question. An experience or something someone else has said or something they have been chewing over in their mind?



Is it a question about whether a christian can be in error?


Is it a question about whether christians can be following different teachers?

Is it a question about denominations and sects?




Not every teaching is christian.


Id have to ask if you think a person can call themselves a christian and yet not be a christian.

I have my faith icon as christian seeker. I suppose because I have a christian background was baptised as an infant. So in a sense 'culturally' christian - because I am not sure about some things - I made commitment a profession a one point. But my beliefs are a bit mixed. I may be should change it to "seeker"

It might be wrong to speak of cultural christianity - from what I read in christian books 'christian' refers to someone who believes certain things about who Jesus is.

How do you understand christian?

 

[yesyoushould]

Im still not sure what the OP means. Usually something makes one ask a question. An experience or something someone else has said or something they have been chewing over in their mind?

Is it a question about whether a christian can be in error?


Is it a question about whether christians can be following different teachers?


Not every teaching is christian.

You can think anything you want.


I just don't understand divisions.


Surely you can understand that.

 

[Star Adept]

OP (Christian, by denomination icon) posits if Christians can be divided, then says nope to Christians who says yes. Acting and speaking differently than the answer he gives. I think OP is divided lol

 

[yesyoushould]

Confusion doesn't have anything to do with this.

All Christians are one in my point of view. I do not understand the division of titles of professing Christians. The separations. Perhaps you have an explanation.

 

[yesyoushould]

OP (Christian, by denomination icon) posits if Christians can be divided, then says nope to Christians who says yes. Acting and speaking differently than the answer he gives. I think OP is divided lol

Can Christians be divided or not? I don't think Christians can.

 

[Star Adept]

You say that, but what meaning does the conversation have other than to assert your opinion which is not very well-defined.

Can Christians be divided? Depends on what you divide them with. 2 Christians / 2 Christians = 1 Christian. Proof of your concept lol

 

[yesyoushould]

You say that, but what meaning does the conversation have other than to assert your opinion which is not very well-defined.

Can Christians be divided? Depends on what you divide them with. 2 Christians / 2 Christians = 1 Christian. Proof of your concept lol

I have no idea what you are talking about.

My thread is asking if one thinks Christians can be divided or not, and how come.

I was straight forward in my response, that I do not believe Christians can be separated, so that there is no confusion as to my question.


I'm not looking for a debate, instead, what is your point of view on the subject. Can Christians be divided or not? How come?

 

[dms1972]

You can think anything you want.


I just don't understand divisions.


Surely you can understand that.

No I can't cause I don't know what way you mean.


Why can't you say, or explain why you asked?

As far as I understand it, which isn't very far - the True Church (spoken of in the Bible) is not divided. And it has its members in every church. So when these christian meet each other regardless of their particular denomination , they can have fellowship.

- not everyone on a christian website or going to a church is a christian.

Are there disagreements amongst christians - YES.

As there are disagreements in nearly everything.

Why are there disagreements? I don't understand the history of it all.

Can people be in disagreement and fellowship - Yes sometimes, but sometimes no. Because one thinks the other no longer holding to christian teaching.

So to answer the question in that sense.

Yes sometimes christians need to separate, or leave a group if that group is no longer christian.

And sometimes they divide over petty, silly things that are not very important. And that is wrong

And other times they divide because they don't quite understand each other.

Thats the best I can answer. Cause its not to me a question I can answer either YES, or NO.

 

[yesyoushould]

No I can't cause I don't know what way you mean.


Why can't you say, or explain why you asked?


Are there disagreements amongst christians - YES.

As there are disagreements in nearly everything.

Why are there disagreements?

Can people be in disagreement and fellowship - Yes sometimes, but sometimes no. Because one thinks the other no longer holding to christian teaching.

So to answer the question in that sense, since you won't explain what you mean.

Yes sometimes christians need to separate, or leave a group if that group is no longer christian.

Does that answer?

Ok. You think Christians need to separate sometimes because of lack of belief in the Word of God. That makes sense.

 

[yesyoushould]

The reason I started this thread, forgive me, I meant no offense, but I honestly do not understand how come people disagree with the word of God. The Bible. I notice so many "denominations" and for some reason, cannot understand how come. I apologize if I offended anybody.

 

[Star Adept]

Well, you probably should have posted somewhere other than the discussion and debate forum. And you should probably stop debating (by simple denial and refute of understanding) if you don't want debate.

My point of view on the subject? Why would anyone care if Christians can be divided or not? If you say no, for whatever definition you have in your head, then you deny Christianity as a free-willing belief of individual people. If you say yes, you're smart and recognize that everyone is different regardless of and in respect to any trait of them.

 

[Star Adept]

The reason I started this thread, forgive me, I meant no offense, but I honestly do not understand how come people disagree with the word of God. The Bible. I notice so many "denominations" and for some reason, cannot understand how come. I apologize if I offended anybody.

THANK YOU. Nobody was offended, I think, you were just so simplistic in your question and responses that nobody had any idea how to respond in a way you felt satisfactorily touched on the concept.

I disagree with the "word of God" as translated into English. Not the whole thing, obviously, but it reads differently in its original languages.

 

[yesyoushould]

Well, you probably should have posted somewhere other than the discussion and debate forum. And you should probably stop debating (by simple denial and refute of understanding) if you don't want debate.

My point of view on the subject? Why would anyone care if Christians can be divided or not? If you say no, for whatever definition you have in your head, then you deny Christianity as a free-willing belief of individual people. If you say yes, you're smart and recognize that everyone is different regardless of and in respect to any trait of them.

It is smart to agree with God only. Not man.


It is a blessing to be One with God.

 

[yesyoushould]

THANK YOU. Nobody was offended, I think, you were just so simplistic in your question and responses that nobody had any idea how to respond in a way you felt satisfactorily touched on the concept.

I disagree with the "word of God" as translated into English. Not the whole thing, obviously, but it reads differently in its original languages.

It is obvious that division in God is simplicity. Division is only for those of simplistic minds. None the less, we are witness to many divisions called "denominations".

Getting offended in the truth is a red flag. One of which I am able to fix. Not because I have traveled that road, but because I believe in God.

 

[Star Adept]

MM, I said one would be smart if one recognized difference in people. I don't exactly know why you made your God statement here.

Getting offended at anything lacks humility anyways.

Fix what, precisely, getting offended at the truth?

 

[dms1972]

The reason I started this thread, forgive me, I meant no offense, but I honestly do not understand how come people disagree with the word of God. The Bible. I notice so many "denominations" and for some reason, cannot understand how come. I apologize if I offended anybody.

Its ok. I am sorry if I answered impatiently. I wonder the same sometimes . And feel in a mess reading one theology and another.

I can only point you to things that might explain it.

Such as John Mackay's book - Christian Reality and Appearance.

So its about people views on the Bible and authority in the church.

I think also the issue is complicated by differing understandings perhaps of Oneness. And people who called themselves Oneness believers.

 

[Radagast]

The reason I started this thread, forgive me, I meant no offense, but I honestly do not understand how come people disagree with the word of God. The Bible. I notice so many "denominations" and for some reason, cannot understand how come. I apologize if I offended anybody.

You still haven't clarified the question. And why did you post it in the open-to-atheists section?

But if your question is broadly about divisions into denominations, I assume that you've done your bit for unity by joining the largest denomination? Or have you made the divisions worse by joining some small nondenominational church not in union with anybody else?