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Is it possible that some of Gods chosen will not end up in heaven?

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Will all of Gods chosen go to heaven. What do you think?

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  • no

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  • absolutely

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  • other.....please explain

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  • I am not sure right now.

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P.S. Tim Keller says:

"Romans 8:29 tells us the goal toward which all our circumstances are moving us. Paul uses the word predestined. He’s not introducing the word to confuse you—he doesn’t intend to explain the doctrine of predestination or address the issues that arise when that word is mentioned. He uses this word to comfort us. Something that is predestined is fixed. What Paul means is that if you love God, you can count on a promise that is absolutely fixed, no matter what. That’s all he’s trying to get across."

The Christian’s Happiness - Romans 8:28-30 | Monergism
 
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Jonaitis said:
The ancient chosen people were under the Old Covenant, and this could not save them by virtue of it.
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That's not about them having been chosen to salvation, however, whereas the question of this thread was about that.
 
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So one shouldn't use the word chosen with those that are predestined it seems. Really, when I asked the original question I was thinking of those predestined which to me are chosen by God. I guess I am really confusing the issue.
 
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ilovejcsog said:
So one shouldn't use the word chosen with those that are predestined it seems. Really, when I asked the original question I was thinking of those predestined which to me are chosen by God. I guess I am really confusing the issue.
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Glad that is cleared up.
 
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ilovejcsog said:
So one shouldn't use the word chosen with those that are predestined it seems. Really, when I asked the original question I was thinking of those predestined which to me are chosen by God. I guess I am really confusing the issue.
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I don't think your use of the word "chosen" was wrong here at all. In fact, the word "chosen" is used several times in the NT to refer to the same people as the predestined.

Take this for example: "even as he CHOSE us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him." Ephesians 1:4

And again, "You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide, so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you. 17 These things I command you, so that you will love one another." John 15:16

"But we should always give thanks to God for you, brethren beloved by the Lord, because God has chosen you from the beginning for salvation through sanctification by the Spirit and faith in the truth." 2 Thess. 2:13
 
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That definitely changes the whole topic. I am the process of changing the title.
Oh boy, okay, according to starry, I guess I won't make the change
 
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ilovejcsog said:
Assuming the chosen are Christians that God has selected to go to heaven. If you don't think so what would be the reasons why they wouldn't?

Sorry, I originally left the don't out.
I think I left my brain in the bathroom again
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John 6:27-30 and Romans 8:34-39 among other passages make it clear that once God rescues us, he won't let us go.
 
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judas was a chosen
king saul was a chosen
ananias and saphiras were chosen
an unnamed prophet in 1 King 11 was a chosen before a lion devoured him because of his disobedient to the Lord.
and many more who in the last day who said Lord Lord did we not...
 
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renniks said:
We enter the chosen category when we receive salvation. If we fall into disbelief, we exit the chosen category.
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Nonsense...

He seals us against that possibility.

"When we are faithless He is faithful because He cannot deny Himself..."
 
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ilovejcsog said:
Assuming the chosen are Christians that God has selected to go to heaven. If you don't think so what would be the reasons why they wouldn't?

Sorry, I originally left the don't out.
I think I left my brain in the bathroom again
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you mean like God make mistakes?
 
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Carl Emerson said:
Nonsense...

He seals us against that possibility.

"When we are faithless He is faithful because He cannot deny Himself..."[/QUOTE
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5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.
 
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