Is it Ok to pray for future sins?

[Alithis]

Repentance is saying sorry with the intent of never doing it again. If you committed the sin again after repenting, then you need to repent again.

You should always be seeking forgiveness for your sin with the intent of never committing them again.

If you do it again then you have intent.
And have Never repented.
You can't accidently sin .
Any more then you can accidently do an act of rightousness.

Death to self means...death to self.

 

[Grandpa2390]

If you do it again then you have intent.
And have Never repented.
You can't accidently sin .
Any more then you can accidently do an act of rightousness.

Death to self means...death to self.

Spoken like a Pharisee... It is amazing how many people do not read 1 John.

Let's just go ahead and establish that you are perfect and righteous. You have never committed a sin since you repented. and therefore you have never had any reason to pray: "forgive us our trespasses". twice.

That being said, the rest of us are not perfect but are being moved towards perfection. While we have the Spirit of God, we still inhabit the flesh of this world, and therefore are still susceptible to stumbling in the face of strong temptations.
Temptations like lust, anger, greed, etc. You don't have to steal to be a thief. You don't have to kill to be a murderer. Or an adulterer to commit adultery.

We stumble and fall, and we repent and pray to never commit that sin again. But being human, There is a strong possibility that we will sin again. and so we repent again. Striving always to be sinless.

1 John 2:1-2

Do not sin, but if you do, ask for forgiveness and you will be forgiven. We are saved by mercy and grace, not by legalism. If it were possible for us to live a life without sin in these bodies, there would be no reason for church or anything. The Holy Spirit puts into us a new heart. A heart with the law written on it. And he gives us strength to follow that law, but we are still fallible.

 

[toLiJC]

No .it's more correct to repent. God has already done All that was required to set us free by the obedience of the Lord Jesus.
Repentance is not saying sorry then doing it again.

yes, repentance is important - as long as you know of what to repent (and how)

Blessings

 

[Dave-W]

Can we repent for future sins?

The question itself shows a lack of understanding what repentance is.

 

[Dave-W]

You can't accidently sin .

This statement shows a lack of understanding of what sin is.

"Sin" - in both Greek and Hebrew are archery terms meaning to aim at the target but "miss the mark," i.e. the bull's eye.

 

[Grandpa2390]

This statement shows a lack of understanding of what sin is.

"Sin" - in both Greek and Hebrew are archery terms meaning to aim at the target but "miss the mark," i.e. the bull's eye.

I like that. How did I forget that.

 

[Alithis]

Spoken like a Pharisee... It is amazing how many people do not read 1 John.

Let's just go ahead and establish that you are perfect and righteous. You have never committed a sin since you repented. and therefore you have never had any reason to pray: "forgive us our trespasses". twice.

That being said, the rest of us are not perfect but are being moved towards perfection. While we have the Spirit of God, we still inhabit the flesh of this world, and therefore are still susceptible to stumbling in the face of strong temptations.
Temptations like lust, anger, greed, etc. You don't have to steal to be a thief. You don't have to kill to be a murderer. Or an adulterer to commit adultery.

We stumble and fall, and we repent and pray to never commit that sin again. But being human, There is a strong possibility that we will sin again. and so we repent again. Striving always to be sinless.

1 John 2:1-2

Do not sin, but if you do, ask for forgiveness and you will be forgiven. We are saved by mercy and grace, not by legalism. If it were possible for us to live a life without sin in these bodies, there would be no reason for church or anything. The Holy Spirit puts into us a new heart. A heart with the law written on it. And he gives us strength to follow that law, but we are still fallible.

Actually if you don't steal..your not a third. Jesus said the desire to do so begins in the heart..
And then he gives us a new heart.
Now we don't HAVE to live according to the old nature ..we have the ability to but do not HAVE to.
So if you do..then you knowingly sin against God in outright rebellion.

Asking for forgiveness for a future sin shows you have no intent to repent and that is why the person is not yet born again and has not yet been given a new heart. (for I will take out of the the heart of stone)
Just because my flesh has an evil desire means nothing Now.because I have the Holy Spirit indwelling me.and now I'm free to obey him. And he never leads me to sin .

You will say if you say you have no sin ..you lie..
And I will say read on and don't stop at that cherry picked line of text.
For the one who admits it goes on to be cleansed of ALL (not some) unrightousness. And the same letter goes on to say those who continue to practice sin..,do not know God..,and also says those who are born of God cannot continue to practice sin.
It does not say that can't sin but that they cannot continue to do so..they cease.

 

[Alithis]

yes, repentance is important - as long as you know of what to repent (and how)

Blessings

of sin ...specifically the one people here are avoiding mentioning in their life

 

[Alithis]

This statement shows a lack of understanding of what sin is.

"Sin" - in both Greek and Hebrew are archery terms meaning to aim at the target but "miss the mark," i.e. the bull's eye.

I am fully aware of that..and it changes nothing

 

[Dave-W]

I am fully aware of that..and it changes nothing

Yes it does. You said: "You can't accidentally sin."

Trying to not sin, but failing in that attempt, is certainly not sinning on purpose.
That is "accidental" as far as I know.

 

[toLiJC]

of sin ...specifically the one people here are avoiding mentioning in their life

i meant whether everyone knows exactly what sin is and what is not sin, and how they should proceed in case they find themselves sinful

Blessings

 

[Alithis]

i meant whether everyone knows exactly what sin is and what is not sin, and how they should proceed in case they find themselves sinful

Blessings

It is missing the mark.
Doing instead that which we know by conscience is wrong to do.
It is also Not doing what we know is right to do.

 

[Alithis]

Ru

Yes it does. You said: "You can't accidentally sin."

Trying to not sin, but failing in that attempt, is certainly not sinning on purpose.
That is "accidental" as far as I know.

Rubbish .
so you covet in your heart..you are then tempted by the desire of your own heart .you see ,$10 ..you trip over and accidently stuff it in your pocket and accidently steal it !??? .yes it's ludacrous.

You walk into your home..no one is home so you trip on the Matt bang the pc ，it turns on goes to a porn site and you lust over it and commit adultery .accidently..
Utterly ridiculous .try and pull that line with your wife .she won't buy it.
But you expect God to?

 

[Dave-W]

Rubbish .
so you covet in your heart..you are then tempted by the desire of your own heart .you see ,$10 ..you trip over and accidently stuff it in your pocket and accidently steal it !??? .yes it's ludacrous.

You walk into your home..no one is home so you trip on the Matt bang the pc ，it turns on goes to a porn site and you lust over it and commit adultery .accidently..
Utterly ridiculous .try and pull that line with your wife .she won't buy it.
But you expect God to?

Rubbish indeed. You are making strawman arguments, and not really dealing with the issue.

 

[Alithis]

The issue is..
Is it ok to pray for future sins

Rubbish indeed. You are making strawman arguments, and not really dealing with the issue.

The issue is
- is it ok to pray for future sin.
The answer is ..No.
Doing show displays zero repentance.
The person has no intent to cease doing an action they know to be sin.

Its very basic and uncomplicated.

 

[Dave-W]

The person has no intent to cease doing an action they know to be sin.

Except there are sins that are not known to be sins.

 

[Alithis]

Except there are sins that are not known to be sins.

Then there is no conscience and they are innocent of it and cannot pray for that which one is not conscious of . but if they are praing about a sin they know is sin because they know they will to do it again.
Then they are fully unrepentant.and not saved.

 

[Godlovesmetwo]

I think the title of this thread has caused a lot of angst for people. So sorry about that .
"Is it OK to pray to be less sinful in the future?" is closer to what I meant.
Knowing I wont be perfect, but at least I will try to improve.

 

[Alithis]

I think the title of this thread has caused a lot of angst for people. So sorry about that .
"Is it OK to pray to be less sinful in the future?" is closer to what I meant.
Knowing I wont be perfect, but at least I will try to improve.

If we have sincerely repented to God it is inevitable that we will become less sinful

 

[toLiJC]

It is missing the mark.
Doing instead that which we know by conscience is wrong to do.
It is also Not doing what we know is right to do.

and do we really do good, or we do evil thinking that we (thus) do good?!, because repentance would be pointless if it is not true repentance from evil

Blessings