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Is it moral to use the end times

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Hi mark,

Well, Jesus spoke to his disciples about fearing the one who can cast them into hell.

Peter wrote to us about some forgetting that this earth is reserved for destruction by fire and that those who are lost are like brute beasts created for destruction. I'm going to assume that he wrote those words expecting people to read them.

So, is it moral for one sharing with another what Jesus said? Jesus said that we should fear the one who can cast us into hell. Should I not be expected to tell someone that? Do you think Jesus was being immoral when he spoke to a crowd, in which there surely must have been many that hadn't come to understand who he was and why he had come, those words to them?

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Is it moral to use the end times to scare people into salvation?

The bible mentions people being unaware and unprepared for the rapture/end times...so logically it's "morally" acceptable to inform people to be ready in order to be raptured up.
 
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Is it moral to use the end times to scare people into salvation?
no ... people aren't saved because they make a decision, people are saved because God works in their life so they can come to a place and trust him to be born again and then continue to live a life in that trust. Fearmongering engenders the opposite response, obedience out of fear is not faith or trust.
 
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Is it moral to use the end times to scare people into salvation?

No it’s not it is control based infantile religion. Definitely not part of the teachings of Jesus’ Gospel of Love that is for sure.
 
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The bible mentions people being unaware and unprepared for the rapture/end times...so logically it's "morally" acceptable to inform people to be ready in order to be raptured up.
I don’t want to be ruptured lol
 
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See the bold portion of Tolworth John's posted? He's saying that is one of the signs of a cult, that the Bible is not the word of God.
 
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Is it moral to use the end times to scare people into salvation?

I don't think you can scare anyone into believing, not directly anyway. Their own life's path and situation will dictate their willingness to be open to realise that Jesus exists and is ready to welcome them.

However, we do have a duty to warn people that judgment will come. How we do so the question.
 
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Is it moral to use the end times to scare people into salvation?

"And others save with fear, pulling them out of the fire; hating even the garment spotted by the flesh." (Jude 1:23).

Yep. It is moral.
 
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The Bible does say that we ought to fear God. The reason for this being that in showing fear of punishment of sins, we will walk in His set path. However, when doing this, we will come to learn the value of this walk and what it means to be righteous. I think the reason a fear of the Lord is required of us is because we are sinners. If we had not sinned in the garden, perhaps that would not be the case today because we would then already walk the righteous path. But we sinned and now have to find our way back. And if we are content with our wicked lives, then we will show no concern with trying to reach our perfection. Hence, to fear losing our way, God's way, is to walk upright and be righteous until that glorious day we reach our perfection. To fear the Lord means that one shows not only concern for punishment, but a fear of losing ones way. It also shows submission to the Lord's will and the rejection of your own. This will also please Him because in doing this, you are proving to God that you acknowledge your sins and your sinful nature and have a new desire to change and be what you are meant to be: Holy, even as the Lord your God is holy. But in trying to convince someone that the end is near, it can be tricky. I think trying to subtly show clues and reciting scripture and showing the physical manifestations (as there are many) of the signs is a good way. But of course, I am but a man. So there are things that I may find suitable and good that God may disagree with. I try to talk about the end times with family and others alike. Most don't receive it with open arms, but the Lord never said it would be easy. But I know that if I could wake up and see what's going on around us, others can too. So I have got to try. Remember what God had said of the watchmen. He said very clearly that if a man knows of an approaching danger and he warns not the people who are to be effected, their blood will be on your hands. But if we warn them and they choose not to listen, we are absolved of guilt because they themselves chose not to listen. I've said this before and I'll say it again. Being a true, honest Christian is the hardest thing on Earth to do. It means saying things a sinful world doesn't want to hear. It means having a willingness to offer love and forgiveness to those that have seriously hurt and mistreated you, even if they don't return it and are instead cold or unfeeling. Do you know how hard it is to TRULY forgive EVERYBODY? Think of someone right now that has REALLY done a number on you. Do you think that at this very moment, right now, that you could get up and go see them, Face to face, and say, "I forgive you... and I love you. I hope the best for you." If you couldn't do it, then you see how far you yet have to go. I am not trying to say I'm perfect. Trust me, I've got plenty that come to mind that have wronged me and sometimes if I sit and think of them long enough, and remember too much, I can still get upset. Idk. It's a hard road for us Christians. But remember what Jesus said, "With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible." - Matthew 19:26
Sorry the post is so long and I got a little off topic. At any rate, I hope all of you find your strength in walking this rocky road. It's tough, but you are not the only one. That's another thing to remember. There is strength in numbers. And Jesus told us we should get together and help each other. We are all parts of one body. It's good when we get together and function as a team. Keeps the body moving and alive.
 
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Is it moral to use the end times to scare people into salvation?

It is immoral to do what is wrong for false motives.

Sharing the gospel is something we are commanded to do. Honestly speaking different people encounter Christ in us in different ways. Some are attracted by love, goodness, truth but others are scared into that first step. Fundamentally the gospel is good news because our situation without this hope is untenable and desperate. But most Westerners today do not have that impression of their lives as a starting point. Actually the situation of the godless is terrifying and especially so in the face of endtime events. To suggest therefore that the very ground beneath them is about to open up and swallow them into the depths of hell may be exactly what some unsaved people need to hear before their sense of reality is restored.
 
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Depends how its done. FOr centuries Chistians had a reputation of preaching Hell and Damnation as a means of evangelism. If you are saying that using the bad things that can happen to the unsaved as immoral you are basically saying probably thousands of preachers throughout history are immoral. I dont do that myself and my message in evangelism is one of love. But I dont see a moral problem in telling people that they can be taken from being outside of a relationship with God and what that entails to being in a relationship with God and being with Him eternally.
 
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Is it moral to use the end times to scare people into salvation?

We preach the Good News, period.

1 Timothy 3:5

This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,

God proved His love by the Cross and we share the Good News with all the down and outs and all the goody two shoes, loudly proclaiming God loves them! They hear the Good News and at the very second of belief in His Son they will be sealed with the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit will only speak of Truth, Jesus.
 
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That's subjective. I do question if people who are scared of the 'end-times' are really saved or are if they are just playing Church because the Bible says (and this is a LOT of Christians favourite quote too)

'There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love' 1 John 4:18
 
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Is it moral to use the end times to scare people into salvation?

Yes. Jesus declared that we ought to fear the Father in reference to condemnation and literally being "thrown" or "cast" in hell (Luke 12:5). In Jude 1:23, we are also told to save some through fear "from the fire."

These are just two of a plethora of verses, but they are all you need to explicitly and unequivocally, and straight from the mouth of Jesus, demonstrate that the Lord desires us to fear and to do so on account of what can happen if we do not. Thus Jesus Himself considers fear an acceptable motivator, which we should regard as the great grace that it is, that God should be so merciful as to even accept fear as an initial motivator for our repentance.

Another important point for all the detractors, is to understand that one can not give the Gospel without implying condemnation, so that to withhold it is simply pretentious and also voids the contrast of the message that highlights what is good about the news. This is because to present a message of salvation simply begs the question, "saved from what?" And I certainly hope the answer you're giving them isn't "a frown on God's face."

Can someone be scared into a genuine saving relationship with Jesus Christ?
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I was first drawn to Jesus out of intense fear. I gave my life to Him shortly after, and now serve Him out of sincere love because I no longer have to fear (in this sense, that is; we should all revere the LORD at all times, however: Proverbs 9:10, Hebrews 12:28). But fear was my initial motivator. I am also drawing someone to the Gospel in my Bible study through demonstrations of fulfillment of end time prophecy in present day events, which has startled them into taking the Gospel seriously and even urging their mother to join the study.
 
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It is the best thing to take appropriate measures before facing the imminent danger. When you explain someone and warn him the possible outcome it is only for his benefit. Christianity has definite teaching about life,death and life after death. It never changes with time. The scripture is very much indicative. Take the example of the rich man and Lazarus. In spite of all these warning if some one does not respond then is entirely on the person's responsibility to face the ultimate punishment.
God has already planned a way for us to share his glory and inherit eternal life no matter of our sinful state. God has done everything to avoid hell and choose life. So why not be wise to respond still it is time.
 
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23 And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom.
24 And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame.
25 But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented.
26 And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence.
27 Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father's house:
28 For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. -Luke 16

If you woke up to find yourself in an eternity of hell would you not wish someone would have done more?
 
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Is it moral to use the end times to scare people into salvation?

The Lord put in in the bible for a reason. The question is not one of morality but biblical. With that being said, we are to preach the gospel, the gospel of Jesus and Jesus did warn of of the end times as well. Most importantly is to preach we are all sinners in need of a perfect savior, Jesus.
 
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The bible says fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. There will be a day of judgement and for those who do not belong to Jesus should know of the danger they are in. It is not fear mongering and Jesus himself warned of the end times.
 
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