You said Timothy cut his coke with water in the Bible, and Justin Martyr left the orgy to explain to Ceasar that they were not having drunk love fests because the wine wasn't strong enough to get drunk, it only kept them from getting dehydrated and the love feasts were started by Jesus and Mary Magdeline who conceived the grandfather of the guy who wrote the DiVinci DeCode.
I asked you to show where this stuff is in the bible, and all you come back with is Jude? You didn't explain how many people were involved in the first orgy trying to get drunk with Jesus on wine that was cut too much so Ceasar could excuse the love feasts as non-drunken orgies and Justin Martyr returned to the party with Ceasar's blessings.....Ceasar probably tagged along when he found out they were only orgies and not drunken orgies, but of course he went in disguise.
I see. Having no rational position yourself, you must depend on ridicule. But I'll speak to you as though you would respond with honest discussion in stead of diatribe.
The early Christians practiced what they called an
agape feast as well as a communion. The difference between the agape feast and just an ordinary meal is that it seems to have been relatively formal in practice--probably because of Paul's injunction to the Corinthians--to emphasize equanimity despite their differences in secular social station. Their practice seems to have been somewhat varied--sometimes they took part at the same time, sometimes they were separated. When separated, sometimes the
agape feast was in the morning and communion was in the evening, sometimes that was reversed.
Both the
agape feasts and communion had been falsely communicated during the 2nd century to Caesar as horrendous events so immoral that even the pagan Romans would abhore them. Christians were known to be rescuing the imperfect babies the Romans abandoned in the forests. Communion was falsely characterized to Caesar as a blood orgy in which those babies were sacrified and their blood and flesh eaten. The early Christian apologist Athenagoras defended Christians before Ceasar on that charge in 140 AD, pointing out that Christians had been preaching against Roman abortion and child abandonment.
Likewise, Justin Martyr pointed out in 160 AD that their
agape feasts were not drunken orgies, but that what wine they drunk was watered down--which was the common case, because the water supplied to the Jewish quarter of Rome was not potable.
A Roman governor, Pliny the Younger, around 100 AD investigated Christianity (which included, as he frankly stated, torturing a couple of deaconesses) and discovered that their
agape feasts were just "ordinary meals."
