is israel defending itself out of fear of the palestinians

[Peacemaker1]

the chief priests and rulers of israel wanted to take jesus by craft, subtilty because they feared their country would be taken from them from the romans. their only concern was not upsetting the people of israel on feast days. israel did not defend themselves by killing christ neither is israel defending itself out of fear of the palestinians, just as israel was the betrayer and murderer of christ, they are now betraying those palestinians and murdering them christians should know and believe different to the jews of judaism there is no fear in love but perfect love casts out fear as fear has torment....




John 11:47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.


Matthew 26:3 Then assembled together the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, unto the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,
4 And consulted that they might take Jesus by subtilty, and kill him.
5 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar among the people.

Mark 14:After two days was the feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death.
2 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people.

1 John 4:18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

the chief priests and rulers of israel wanted to take jesus by craft, subtilty because they feared their country would be taken from them from the romans. their only concern was not upsetting the people of israel on feast days. israel did not defend themselves by killing christ neither is israel defending itself out of fear of the palestinians, just as israel was the betrayer and murderer of christ, they are now betraying those palestinians and murdering them christians should know and believe different to the jews of judaism there is no fear in love but perfect love casts out fear as fear has torment....




John 11:47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.


Matthew 26:3 Then assembled together the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, unto the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,
4 And consulted that they might take Jesus by subtilty, and kill him.
5 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar among the people.

Mark 14:After two days was the feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death.
2 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people.

1 John 4:18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

1+1=2, it does not = 11. They are fighting against HAMAS. HAMAS attacked Israel. Hamas does not equal Christ. Who ordered and conducted the crucifixion of Yeshua? Rome.

 

[Postvieww]

the chief priests and rulers of israel wanted to take jesus by craft, subtilty because they feared their country would be taken from them from the romans. their only concern was not upsetting the people of israel on feast days. israel did not defend themselves by killing christ neither is israel defending itself out of fear of the palestinians, just as israel was the betrayer and murderer of christ, they are now betraying those palestinians and murdering them christians should know and believe different to the jews of judaism there is no fear in love but perfect love casts out fear as fear has torment....

Do you actually know of the atrocities committed by Hamas against innocent women and children?

Any person walking this earth who would bake a baby to death in an oven deserves nothing but death! Hamas is a pack of demon possessed animals that deserve no mercy.

What legitimate fighting force hides among the sick, the young and innocent having no regard for their own? Israel is doing what needs to be done.

 

[Aussie Pete]

the chief priests and rulers of israel wanted to take jesus by craft, subtilty because they feared their country would be taken from them from the romans. their only concern was not upsetting the people of israel on feast days. israel did not defend themselves by killing christ neither is israel defending itself out of fear of the palestinians, just as israel was the betrayer and murderer of christ, they are now betraying those palestinians and murdering them christians should know and believe different to the jews of judaism there is no fear in love but perfect love casts out fear as fear has torment....




John 11:47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.


Matthew 26:3 Then assembled together the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, unto the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,
4 And consulted that they might take Jesus by subtilty, and kill him.
5 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar among the people.

Mark 14:After two days was the feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death.
2 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people.

1 John 4:18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

I won't say what I think of your post. I will probably be banned for life anyway. The Gaza war has nothing to do with Christianity. Jews are not Christians. They have been under constant attack since 14th May 1948. Israel is fighting for survival. No other nation would put up with the constant harassment that Israelis have endured. The same people that despise Israel despise everything that the Western world stands for.

Jesus was crucified according to God's will. Israel exists as a nation according to God's will. It is physical evidence that God can fulfill His promises. I wish people like you would do some study and research before posting.

 

[timewerx]

Who ordered and conducted the crucifixion of Yeshua? Rome.

I'm not sure what theology/logic you are following or what religious book you are reading.

But in the Bible, it was Jews who keeps on murdering the prophets sent to them.

While Rome gave the order to crucify Jesus, it was the Jews who forced the hand of Rome to crucify Jesus.

In the Bible, the blame is not upon the authorities giving orders but to those who started it. It wasn't the judge but the one who gave the false testimony.

Are you absolutely certain the Hamas attacked Israel purely out of senseless hatred for the Jews or is it because Israel had been oppressing Palestinians for decades?

The plan of God is to humble the Israelites according to the Bible. Who do you think are those who are humbled? It's always been those who are proud. It's a good thing but Israel might pay a huge price for their lesson.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

I'm not sure what theology/logic you are following or what religious book you are reading.

But in the Bible, it was Jews who keeps on murdering the prophets sent to them.

While Rome gave the order to crucify Jesus, it was the Jews who forced the hand of Rome to crucify Jesus.

In the Bible, the blame is not upon the authorities giving orders but to those who started it. It wasn't the judge but the one who gave the false testimony.

Are you absolutely certain the Hamas attacked Israel purely out of senseless hatred for the Jews or is it because Israel had been oppressing Palestinians for decades?

Come on, NOBODY forces Rome to do anything they do not want done. The ruling class of The Temple DID have a hand in it but it was only Rome who ran the trial and crucified Him. Yeshua Himself said "He would be handed over to the gentiles and be crucified by them" (Luke 18:32-33). Israel has not been oppressing anyone. It is the Arabs and Hamas that oppress them. They steal their money and they started this conflict. They use their own people as human shields. Look where the heads of Hamas are? In Qatar living the high life!

 

[Stephen3141]

the chief priests and rulers of israel wanted to take jesus by craft, subtilty because they feared their country would be taken from them from the romans. their only concern was not upsetting the people of israel on feast days. israel did not defend themselves by killing christ neither is israel defending itself out of fear of the palestinians, just as israel was the betrayer and murderer of christ, they are now betraying those palestinians and murdering them christians should know and believe different to the jews of judaism there is no fear in love but perfect love casts out fear as fear has torment....




John 11:47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.


Matthew 26:3 Then assembled together the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, unto the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,
4 And consulted that they might take Jesus by subtilty, and kill him.
5 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar among the people.

Mark 14:After two days was the feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death.
2 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people.

1 John 4:18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

I think that it is more that Israelis, who have been threatened with death and extermination,
by the surrounding Arab Muslim countries, live daily with the reality of this hatred by
Muslims.

The other complication is that the Palestinians, in general, have supported radical
Muslim groups like Yassr Arafat and Fatah, Hezbollah, and Hamas. Defending
oneself against radical terrorist groups, that have vowed to kill you, is not
some sort of act of blind fear.

I think that most Israelis notice that the "Palestinians" are a bit different
than Hamas members. But Hamas members hide among the Palestinians,
and so Israelis don't have the luxury of fighting Hamas, without hurting
Palestinians who are not radicals.

 

[Aussie Pete]

I think that it is more that Israelis, who have been threatened with death and extermination,
by the surrounding Arab Muslim countries, live daily with the reality of this hatred by
Muslims.

The other complication is that the Palestinians, in general, have supported radical
Muslim groups like Yassr Arafat and Fatah, Hezbollah, and Hamas. Defending
oneself against radical terrorist groups, that have vowed to kill you, is not
some sort of act of blind fear.

I think that most Israelis notice that the "Palestinians" are a bit different
than Hamas members. But Hamas members hide among the Palestinians,
and so Israelis don't have the luxury of fighting Hamas, without hurting
Palestinians who are not radicals.

Hypocrite Erdogan is happy to bomb Kurds. No one marches in the streets about that.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Come on, NOBODY forces Rome to do anything they do not want done. The ruling class of The Temple DID have a hand in it but it was only Rome who ran the trial and crucified Him. Yeshua Himself said "He would be handed over to the gentiles and be crucified by them" (Luke 18:32-33). Israel has not been oppressing anyone. It is the Arabs and Hamas that oppress them. They steal their money and they started this conflict. They use their own people as human shields. Look where the heads of Hamas are? In Qatar living the high life!

Pilate gave into the Jews who had brought Jesus to him to be crucified. This is according to Scripture.
Pilate feared a riot if he went against the Jewish Hierarchy on the charge of blaspheme, which is what
they charged and convicted Jesus of.

If a riot had broken out, you can bet that Pilate would've strong armed the protesters, but in this case, it was
easier for him to sentence one man(Jesus) to death than have to deal with an insurrection in the streets. According
to Scripture, Pilate asked the crowd what should be done with Jesus? They yelled, "crucify him." So, he washed his
hands of the innocent man's blood and ordered his soldiers to follow the desires of the Jews, and they crucified him.

For years Jews said that if Pilate even existed, he would never have done such a thing. Then, in 1948, archeologists
found a ton of evidence of Pilate being the governor of Judea, and also the tradition of giving pardon to
Jewish prisoners, especially for Passover.

Now it's accepted that both Pilate and the tradition of pardoning a prisoner, were in fact real.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Pilate gave into the Jews who had brought Jesus to him to be crucified. This is according to Scripture.
Pilate feared a riot if he went against the Jewish Hierarchy on the charge of blaspheme, which is what
they charged and convicted Jesus of.

If a riot had broken out, you can bet that Pilate would've strong armed the protesters, but in this case, it was
easier for him to sentence one man(Jesus) to death than have to deal with an insurrection in the streets. According
to Scripture, Pilate asked the crowd what should be done with Jesus? They yelled, "crucify him." So, he washed his
hands of the innocent man's blood and ordered his soldiers to follow the desires of the Jews, and they crucified him.

Again, ROME ordered Him to be crucified and carried out the execution. The Temple hierarchy were complicit. BTW, those priests were installed BY ROME. Pilate was VERY well known for his cruelty. In fact he was recalled to Rome for it.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Again, ROME crucified Him. The Temple hierarchy were complicit. BTW, those priests were installed BY ROME. Pilate was VERY well known for his cruelty. In fact he was recalled to Rome for it.

Rome wouldn't have crucified Jesus had he not been brought to Pilate by the Jews of the temple.

Pilate couldn't even find what Roman law he had broken for none was broken.

However, Jesus was charged with blaspheme by the Jewish Temple authorities and that is
why they had him to be put to death by the Romans. This is in Scripture.

 

[Yeshua HaDerekh]

Rome wouldn't have crucified Jesus had he not been brought to Pilate by the Jews of the temple.

Pilate couldn't even find what Roman law he had broken for none was broken.

However, Jesus was charged with blaspheme by the Jewish Temple authorities and that is
why they had him to be put to death by the Romans. This is in Scripture.

Rome does not care about blasphemy. King of the Jews is what did it. Pilate even wrote the crime on a sign put on the cross. Pilate was a cruel dictator. He cared nothing about Jewish law. Historical accounts were written regarding Pilate by Philo, Tacitus as well as by Josephus.

 

[JimR-OCDS]

Rome does not care about blasphemy. King of the Jews is what did it. Pilate even wrote the crime on a sign put on the cross. Pilate was a cruel dictator. He cared nothing about Jewish law. Historical accounts were written regarding Pilate by Philo, Tacitus as well as by Josephus.

The Jews first told Pilate that Jesus had broken Jewish law and they didn't have the authority to put anyone to death. They
used the claim of Kingship over Ceasar as a means of getting Pilate to agree in having him put to death.

However, before they brought Jesus to Pilate, the Sanhedrin had a trial and convicted Jesus of blaspheme.
It's their reason why they wanted him dead but sought to have the Romans do it for them.


"Jesus said to him in reply, “You have said so. But I tell you:

From now on you will see ‘the Son of Man
seated at the right hand of the Power’
and ‘coming on the clouds of heaven.’”

Then the high priest tore his robes and said, “He has blasphemed! What further need have we of witnesses? You have now heard the blasphemy; what is your opinion?” They said in reply, “He deserves to die!" Matthew 26: 64-66

 

[Ephesians321]

Jesus was crucified according to God's will. Israel exists as a nation according to God's will. It is physical evidence that God can fulfill His promises. I wish people like you would do some study and research before poposting.

The State of Israel does not exist according to God's will neither does he have a covenant with Israel after the flesh anymore.

1. There is no more circumcision anymore (an essential part of the conditional land promise)

2. God never promised to regather the Jews from where he scattered them into a nation again while they remained in a state of rebellion, disbelief, and apostasy. They had to repent, confess, and obey first but not as a secular, political entity (another essential part of the conditional land promise).

3. God promised Israel he would protect her from enemies on the Feast Days. Yom Kippur War (1973) and Passover Massacre (2002) has proven that's not true for the State of Israel.

 

[Canuckster]

the chief priests and rulers of israel wanted to take jesus by craft, subtilty because they feared their country would be taken from them from the romans. their only concern was not upsetting the people of israel on feast days. israel did not defend themselves by killing christ neither is israel defending itself out of fear of the palestinians, just as israel was the betrayer and murderer of christ, they are now betraying those palestinians and murdering them christians should know and believe different to the jews of judaism there is no fear in love but perfect love casts out fear as fear has torment....




John 11:47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said, What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.
48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans shall come and take away both our place and nation.


Matthew 26:3 Then assembled together the chief priests, and the scribes, and the elders of the people, unto the palace of the high priest, who was called Caiaphas,
4 And consulted that they might take Jesus by subtilty, and kill him.
5 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar among the people.

Mark 14:After two days was the feast of the passover, and of unleavened bread: and the chief priests and the scribes sought how they might take him by craft, and put him to death.
2 But they said, Not on the feast day, lest there be an uproar of the people.

1 John 4:18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casteth out fear: because fear hath torment. He that feareth is not made perfect in love.

It seems that all this was allowed to happen.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1723068004588478888

 

[Aussie Pete]

The State of Israel does not exist according to God's will neither does he have a covenant with Israel after the flesh anymore.

1. There is no more circumcision anymore (an essential part of the conditional land promise)

2. God never promised to regather the Jews from where he scattered them into a nation again while they remained in a state of rebellion, disbelief, and apostasy. They had to repent, confess, and obey first but not as a secular, political entity (another essential part of the conditional land promise).

3. God promised Israel he would protect her from enemies on the Feast Days. Yom Kippur War (1973) and Passover Massacre (2002) has proven that's not true for the State of Israel.

The fact that Israel exists at all proves you wrong.

 

[Ephesians321]

The fact that Israel exists at all proves you wrong.

But it is not God's Israel and neither are there ever going to be prophecies associated with it. Why should there be? Biblical Judaisim is dead and has not been properly and lawfully observed since the 1st Century. It is Israel in name only not in divine purpose.

 

[Aussie Pete]

But it is not God's Israel and neither are there ever going to be prophecies associated with it. Why should there be? Biblical Judaisim is dead and has not been properly and lawfully observed since the 1st Century. It is Israel in name only not in divine purpose.

If it is not God's Israel, then the Bible prophecies with respect to the last days are wrong. Feel free to tell that to God.

 

[Ephesians321]

If it is not God's Israel, then the Bible prophecies with respect to the last days are wrong. Feel free to tell that to God.

So the State of Israel has resurrected the covenant of circumcision and Mosaic Covenant by faithfully observing both but also abrogated the New Covenant and sacrifice of and resurrection of Christ? Feel free to tell that to God yourself.

 

[honey badger]

It seems that all this was allowed to happen.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1723068004588478888

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