Is is just about the EASTER BUNNY?

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

Santa Claus is simply the modern mythical way of remembering St. Nicholas of Myra, he is a symbol of the season that represents kindness and charity representative of the historic St. Nicholas and, more importantly, of the kindness and generosity of God which; as the celebration of Christ's birth, we celebrate the gracious Lord who gives Himself freely to the world in order to save it. Jesus Christ is God's gift to us, and Christ offers Himself to us.

Santa Claus may be a popular secular symbol, but that doesn't mean he's a pagan one; and Christians shouldn't feel any shame in celebrating what the mythical Santa Claus, or the historic St. Nicholas of Myra, represent in a Christian context of joy, celebration, and generosity in response to the birth of Christ our God for the world.

The only way to make these things "pagan" is if one chooses to do so. Personally I don't see any reason to do so, and I'll happily celebrate all that gives glory to Christ our God and King.

-CryptoLutheran

I know the background. But what Santa was transformed into, this madness of consumerist greed and HoHoHo has little to do with Christianity.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

It does in the hearts of millions each year. Christ cares about the heart. Even if you don't.

Not a very nice thing to say.... I already explained above my understanding of holiday of Ishter

 

[ViaCrucis]

I know the background. But what Santa was transformed into, this madness of consumerist greed and HoHoHo has little to do with Christianity.

Then reject the consumerist mindset. I haven't bothered with the hustle and bustle of holiday shopping in years. I try to spend my time instead meditating on Christ and what the season means for the Church.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ViaCrucis]

holiday of Ishter

As explained, that's not a thing. There is no "holiday of Ishtar".

-CryptoLutheran

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

Then reject the consumerist mindset. I haven't bothered with the hustle and bustle of holiday shopping in years. I try to spend my time instead meditating on Christ and what the season means for the Church.

-CryptoLutheran

Good! In my country, all the pagan traditions and capitalist madness is strictly attached to the New Year's and is observed by the whole society. Christmas, is observed by the Christian minority as purely Christ-oriented day. Not much of the Western nonsense, except for some Westernized youngsters who're starting to borrow Santa and fur-tree stuff into Christmas as well... But yet it's not main stream in Christianity.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

As explained, that's not a thing. There is no "holiday of Ishtar".

-CryptoLutheran

Typo. Ester Ishtar same to me.

 

[SAAN]

It does in the hearts of millions each year. Christ cares about the heart. Even if you don't.

The bible says our hearts are wicked, maybe this explains why so many have no problems mixing pagan symbols with the Holy.

You do realize when Jesus was saying to remember him with Bread and Wine, he was referring to Passover, not the Lord supper on Sunday morning.

Easter is just a SUBSTITUTION of Passover, which was kept after Christ death still. I have zero problems with Sunday worship or communion, but just being real with the times back then( the kept the Sabbath, & Feast Days like Passover).

 

[SAAN]

Easter was celebrated almost immediately after the Resurrection. Each gathering on Sunday was a celebration of Easter.



This has no relationship to the practice of Easter in the early Christianity that is continually practiced.



Frankly, it should raise flags if you are a unstable person paranoid about everything.



Thank you for proving my point. People will believe things even if they defy logic and history.

English speakers celebrate Easter with bunnies and eggs, because it is an Anglo-Saxon tradition.
Others cultures don't call it Easter. They don't have bunnies and eggs.
Anglo-Saxons were converted to Christianity in 700-800 AD.

Resurrection Day, as celebrated by Christians around the world, has nothing to do with bunnies, eggs, or even the name "Easter." When Anglo-Saxons converted, they called Resurrection Day "Easter" and celebrated it with bunnies and eggs. Now people like you turn around and call it pagan because of the name "Easter", bunnies, eggs, babylonian hams, and other absurdities.

You can show ZERO scriptural references to validate that. The NT shows they were still keeping the Sabbath after Christ death and the few examples of the 1st day of the week were 1 time examples, NOT new weekly traditions.

Resurrection Day, as celebrated by Christians around the world, has nothing to do with bunnies, eggs, or even the name "Easter."....BUT... many churches do have Easter egg hunts, and the bunny and all the nonsense that has nothing to do with Christ and its a active part of remembering Jesus. And many do eat a big honey glazed pig on Easter Sunday...hmmm...I wonder where that tradition came from and why they would choose a pig of all animals. Wouldn't Lamb make more sense as Jesus was our Passover Lamb, if we were to choose a food to remember him

 

[Greyy]

You can show ZERO scriptural references to validate that. The NT shows they were still keeping the Sabbath after Christ death and the few examples of the 1st day of the week were 1 time examples, NOT new weekly traditions.

So you admit that they met on Sunday, but that's not scripture, because there isn't enough scripture to support that. I missed the scripture that said they only met on Saturday after the Resurrection.
We have vast records of early church documents. You can read them in books, sometimes even online. Early Christians met on Sunday.

Resurrection Day, as celebrated by Christians around the world, has nothing to do with bunnies, eggs, or even the name "Easter."....BUT... many churches do have Easter egg hunts, and the bunny and all the nonsense that has nothing to do with Christ and its a active part of remembering Jesus. And many do eat a big honey glazed pig on Easter Sunday...hmmm...I wonder where that tradition came from and why they would choose a pig of all animals. Wouldn't Lamb make more sense as Jesus was our Passover Lamb, if we were to choose a food to remember him

Christians throughout the world celebrate Resurrection Day without eggs, bunnies, or calling it Easter. The honey glazed ham is an English tradition. That's where it came from. It didn't come from a secret Babylonian cult. Take off your tin foil hat and go see a doctor.

 

[ToBeLoved]

I know the background. But what Santa was transformed into, this madness of consumerist greed and HoHoHo has little to do with Christianity.

So what are you saying here exactly?

I could take this at least five ways. Is it meant to be our own take or is there a message?

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

So what are you saying here exactly?

I could take this at least five ways. Is it meant to be our own take or is there a message?

Nothing complex. I was new both to Christ and to worldly pagan traditions, coming from mostly atheistic and Muslim past. Therefore, I see a clear distinction between things of Christ and things of this world in any of the church holidays. People who grew up in such traditions, tend to have more difficulty in separating the two. Also, they have warm attachments to the worldly traditions and are having hard time to reject them. Which they must do if they are of Christ. You can't serve two masters, Jesus said, as one of them is bound to end up neglected...

 

[SAAN]

So you admit that they met on Sunday, but that's not scripture, because there isn't enough scripture to support that. I missed the scripture that said they only met on Saturday after the Resurrection.
We have vast records of early church documents. You can read them in books, sometimes even online. Early Christians met on Sunday.



Christians throughout the world celebrate Resurrection Day without eggs, bunnies, or calling it Easter. The honey glazed ham is an English tradition. That's where it came from. It didn't come from a secret Babylonian cult. Take off your tin foil hat and go see a doctor.

Pig on Easter goes back to Babylon and just passed down, you worship Tammuz more than you do Jesus. Early Christians met on Sundays because Christianity and Judaism split apart and Christianity decided to do its own thing despite what God commands, that is why they thought their new day was the will of God back then, and they just passed down since.


Acts 15:21 shows they were still keeping the Sabbath, matter of fact here is all the examples they were still keeping the Feast Days as well, since you want proof.

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The Gentiles keeping the Sabbath in Acts 15:21 as they grew in their faith
Acts 15:21
21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every Sabbath day.

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Paul and the NT believers keeping the Feast Days


Day of Pentecost
Acts 2:1
2 When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord[a] in one place.

-How did they receive the holy spirit after Jesus died? They were observing the Day of Pentecost that Sunday.

Acts 20:16
16 For Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus, so that he would not have to spend time in Asia; for he was hurrying to be at Jerusalem, if possible, on the Day of Pentecost.

-Paul was hurrying to observe this feast and Jesus has been dead for years.

Passover and Unleavened Bread
Acts 20:6(NKJV)
6 But we sailed away from Philippi after the Days of Unleavened Bread, and in five days joined them at Troas, where we stayed seven days.

-Why even mention Unleavened Bread, if it was abolished and no longer being observed.

Acts 12:1-4
12 Now about that time Herod the king stretched out his hand to harass some from the church. 2 Then he killed James the brother of John with the sword. 3 And because he saw that it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to seize Peter also. Now it was during the Days of Unleavened Bread. 4 So when he had arrested him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four squads of soldiers to keep him, intending to bring him before the people after Passover.

-Verse 3 shows that they were keeping the Passover and Unleavened bread


Feast of Tabernacles
Acts 18:20-21
20 When they asked him to stay a longer time with them, he did not consent, 21 but took leave of them, saying, “I must by all means keep this coming feast in Jerusalem; but I will return again to you, God willing.” And he sailed from Ephesus.

The Day of Atonement
Acts 27:9-10
9 Now when much time had been spent, and sailing was now dangerous because the Fast was already over, Paul advised them, 10 saying, “Men, I perceive that this voyage will end with disaster and much loss, not only of the cargo and ship, but also our lives.”

-Paul is referring to the Fast on the Day of Atonement. Luke wrote the book of Acts many years after Christ’s death and he referred to the Day of Atonement calling it the “Fast”


So why was Paul still observing all of these Feasts years after Christ death, if they were abolished and no longer needed?

Wouldnt Paul have received the revelations on the road to Damascus, when Jesus revealed himself to him that they were no longer needed?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Pig on Easter goes back to Babylon and just passed down

Since the ancient Babylonians didn't celebrate Easter, since Babylonia had been gone for hundreds of years before Christ, that's quite impossible.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Greyy]

Since the ancient Babylonians didn't celebrate Easter, since Babylonia had been gone for hundreds of years before Christ, that's quite impossible.

-CryptoLutheran

I was joking about that, and then he went there. At this point, it is like getting into arguments on the short bus.

 

[ToBeLoved]

Not a very nice thing to say.... I already explained above my understanding of holiday of Ishter

To put Christianity in the same sentence as some other god Ishtar is not very nice.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

To put Christianity in the same sentence as some other god Ishtar is not very nice.

Jesus said, if a hand seduces you, cut it off, because it's better to be an amputee going to heaven than a whole person going to hell.

It's best to remove all paganism from Christianity even though it hurts. Not nice, it seems, but in fact it's very healthy!

Only Jesus is Lord!!!

 

[prodromos]

It's best to remove all paganism from Christianity even though it hurts. Not nice, it seems, but in fact it's very healthy!

Who created the Spring equinox?

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

Who created the Spring equinox?

In my country, there is an old Zoroastrian holiday we call Nauryz, celebrated at the same time as Easter. It's dedicated to the Spring equinox. Rebirth of cyclical life. Yes, pagans convert God's creation into idolatry - a tree, a picture, a statue or the celestial bodies.

However, Christians celebrate the event of the Gospels - the rising of our dear Lord Jesus Christ from the dead. Not an astronomical event.

We worship the Creator, not the creation.

 

[prodromos]

In my country, there is an old Zoroastrian holiday we call Nauryz, celebrated at the same time as Easter. It's dedicated to the Spring equinox. Rebirth of cyclical life. Yes, pagans convert God's creation into idolatry - a tree, a picture, a statue or the celestial bodies.

Easter is not celebrated on the Spring equinox. The date is determined by the lunar cycle around the Spring equinox. Originally the Church followed the Jewish reckoning of the Pascha, but it was not consistent across the diaspora so the Church settled on their own reckoning. Christ left the Church with authority to bind and loose afterall.

However, Christians celebrate the event of the Gospels - the rising of our dear Lord Jesus Christ from the dead. Not an astronomical event.

We worship the Creator, not the creation

Using the signs and seasons established by God.

 

[ChristianFromKazakhstan]

Easter is not celebrated on the Spring equinox. The date is determined by the lunar cycle around the Spring equinox. Originally the Church followed the Jewish reckoning of the Pascha, but it was not consistent across the diaspora so the Church settled on their own reckoning. Christ left the Church with authority to bind and loose afterall.

Using the signs and seasons established by God.

In the West , Easter is all about fertility cult with eggs etc.