Is Incest a sin?

[Rev Randy]

Hmmm.
Ask some of the countless women who are in therapy
or broken beyond repair because of a family member's
indiscretion.

Thank you sister. A voice of reason. I'd say it tramples the golden rule.

 

[Lion King]

Hmmm.
Ask some of the countless women who are in therapy
or broken beyond repair because of a family member's
indiscretion.

Are we still talking about consensual incest?

 

[NorrinRadd]

No, it is not a sin. It is probably genetically unwise. It is illegal in many places. In most places in the U.S. we have been culturally conditioned to find it distasteful (or "gross"). But it was not sin before the Mosaic Law, and it is not sin apart from that Obsolete Covenant.

 

[Dusky Mouse]

No, it is not a sin. It is probably genetically unwise. It is illegal in many places. In most places in the U.S. we have been culturally conditioned to find it distasteful (or "gross"). But it was not sin before the Mosaic Law, and it is not sin apart from that Obsolete Covenant.

That is untrue.
You can prove your point posting the scriptures in the new testament that legitimize or permit incest specifically.

 

[Lion King]

Moral Sense Test


The Secularist and/or Humanist will often argue that morality is relative. Aka/ Moral Relativism.
The Christian, for whom God's word is paramount, expands that belief into the word.
It is Christians to whom the OP question is posed. And as such it should not be a surprise that from a Christian and Biblical standpoint it is then answered.
Romans 2:14-15(KJV)


For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;

Interesting.

Do you believe a man without the written word of God, will love his enemy in the manner instructed by Jesus Christ?

Do you believe a man without the written word of God, will forgive his enemy every time he is sinned against?

 

[andy b]

if you have to ask if somethings a sin it usually is and its usually a sign that your not firing on all cylinders

 

[Lion King]

That is untrue.
You can prove your point posting the scriptures in the new testament that legitimize or permit incest specifically.

Wearing clothes of cotton and wool mixture was condemned in the Old Covenant (Deuteronomy 22:11). It was never legitimized in the New Testament, but that doesn't mean it's still a sin today.

 

[sunlover1]

Thank you sister. A voice of reason. I'd say it tramples the golden rule.

Thanks.
I have seen a lot of damage that incest has caused.

Are we still talking about consensual incest?

That too in fact.
But i know you're looking for a scholarly answer.
Forgive me if you've already considered Lot and his
daughters, but if you notice, they did get him all
loopy before they "laid with him".
He in fact was unaware (supposedly)
So then we wonder WHY was it important that he
be unaware.. IF incest is not wrong.


30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father [is] old, and [there is] not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, [and] lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

 

[Lion King]

That too in fact.
But i know you're looking for a scholarly answer.
Forgive me if you've already considered Lot and his
daughters, but if you notice, they did get him all
loopy before they "laid with him".
He in fact was unaware (supposedly)
So then we wonder WHY was it important that he
be unaware.. IF incest is not wrong.


30 And Lot went up out of Zoar, and dwelt in the mountain, and his two daughters with him; for he feared to dwell in Zoar: and he dwelt in a cave, he and his two daughters.
31 And the firstborn said unto the younger, Our father [is] old, and [there is] not a man in the earth to come in unto us after the manner of all the earth:
32 Come, let us make our father drink wine, and we will lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
33 And they made their father drink wine that night: and the firstborn went in, and lay with her father; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
34 And it came to pass on the morrow, that the firstborn said unto the younger, Behold, I lay yesternight with my father: let us make him drink wine this night also; and go thou in, [and] lie with him, that we may preserve seed of our father.
35 And they made their father drink wine that night also: and the younger arose, and lay with him; and he perceived not when she lay down, nor when she arose.
36 Thus were both the daughters of Lot with child by their father.

Lot was a "strange" one. First, he offered his daughters to be gang raped. Then, he got drunk, blacked out, and slept with his daughters.

Perhaps all of this was according to God's plan? Moab, the child conceived through the incestuous relationship between Lot and his older daughter became the father of the Moabites. Ruth, the great grandma of Jesus Christ was a descendant of Moab (Matthew 1:5).

Anyway, have you checked the story of Abraham marrying his sibling (Genesis 20:11-13)? If it was sinful, why didn't the LORD rebuke Abraham for such a "heinous" crime?

 

[from scratch]

Five pages to decide if incest is a sin.

 

[Dusky Mouse]

Interesting.

Do you believe a man without the written word of God, will love his enemy in the manner instructed by Jesus Christ?

Do you believe a man without the written word of God, will forgive his enemy every time he is sinned against?

Pity the man(or woman) that needs the word of God in order to be a good man (or woman). Pray for the man(or woman) who can only be good by following the writings in a book. (any book)

 

[PROPHECYKID]

Pity the man(or woman) that needs the word of God in order to be a good man (or woman). Pray for the man(or woman) who can only be good by following the writings in a book. (any book)

Excuse me? Pity the man or woman that needs the word of God in order to be a good man or woman??

 

[Rev Randy]

if you have to ask if somethings a sin it usually is and its usually a sign that your not firing on all cylinders

 

[sunlover1]

Pity the man(or woman) that needs the word of God in order to be a good man (or woman). Pray for the man(or woman) who can only be good by following the writings in a book. (any book)

I need the Word of God in order to be a good woman.

Everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts upon
them will be like a wise man who built his house upon the rock.

No pity necessary, He is all I need.

 

[Going Merry]

Does Leviticus 18:6 still apply to Christians today?

We should set the standard of sin based on what scripture says and not on our hearts. I do not think it is good to sleep with your own siblings. It is just culturally taboo. Lev was given to the people of Israel not to gentiles. But you also have to realize in the beginning there were fewer humans. I am sure it was common practice to marry within the family.

In my opinion, just like how the old ordinances of animal sacrifices ceased thanks to the Lords righteous work. That when the time came and there were enough people in the world there was no more need to allow incest. Its passed. It wasn't a sin and now it is a sin.

 

[Dusky Mouse]

Excuse me? Pity the man or woman that needs the word of God in order to be a good man or woman??

Hebrews 8:10

Were you not a good person before you found the Bible? Would you cease to be a good person if the Bible ceased to exist?
1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

James 4
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[Rev Randy]

Hebrews 8:10

Were you not a good person before you found the Bible? Would you cease to be a good person if the Bible ceased to exist?
1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

James 4
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Can't say I was a good man before Christ. will not say I'm a good man now(I'll leave that judgement to God). But I will say it was not the Bible that made a change in me. The change was of God and not of leather, paper and ink. Also not of words but of Spirit.

 

[sunlover1]

Can't say I was a good man before Christ. will not say I'm a good man now(I'll leave that judgement to God). But I will say it was not the Bible that made a change in me. The change was of God and not of leather, paper and ink. Also not of words but of Spirit.

Ahh, are you sure?
The Scriptures (and Jesus did say that the words He spoke were SPIRIT btw)
say that the steps of a "good man" are ordered by God.
Might that be a litmus?
Only God is good.
Then again,
Your life is now hidden in Christ.

 

[NorrinRadd]

That is untrue.
You can prove your point posting the scriptures in the new testament that legitimize or permit incest specifically.

I do not accept your standard of "proof."

 

[Rev Randy]

Ahh, are you sure?
The Scriptures (and Jesus did say that the words He spoke were SPIRIT btw)
say that the steps of a "good man" are ordered by God.
Might that be a litmus?
Only God is good.
Then again,
Your life is now hidden in Christ.

Sis, Don't get the idea I'm anti-scripture.I thank God for it. I'm just pointing out that those who do not have it can still receive salvation. On that day of Pentecost , I'm remembering the Church added thousands without a single Bible. I'm pretty sure not a word NT scripture had even been penned at that point. And yet, they had the Gospel to share.
Now back to the topic: Do we (Christians)really need scripture to tell us right from wrong or are we indwelled by One who makes that known unto us?