Is having psychic visions.. a sin?

[AmeriLovesJesus]

Is having psychic visions.. a sin?..

 

[Bob Moore]

Is having psychic visions.. a sin?..

If the individual seeks after such visions (and there are a number of ways to do that), then it must be considered a sin. Why? Because that sort of thing is associated with what the Bible calls familiar spirits, and it has this to say regarding them and those who seek them.

Leviticus 19:31 "Regard not them that have familiar spirits, neither seek after wizards, to be defiled by them: I am the LORD your God."

Leviticus 20:6 "And the soul that turneth after such as have familiar spirits, and after wizards, to go a whoring after them, I will even set my face against that soul, and will cut him off from among his people."

Deuteronomy 18:10-13 "There shall not be found among you any one that maketh his son or his daughter to pass through the fire, or that useth divination, or an observer of times, or an enchanter, or a witch, Or a charmer, or a consulter with familiar spirits, or a wizard, or a necromancer. For all that do these things are an abomination unto the LORD: and because of these abominations the LORD thy God doth drive them out from before thee. Thou shalt be perfect with the LORD thy God."

There are in point of fact such creatures as demons. The Earth is well supplied with them because the Earth is Satan's kingdom. Ephesians 2:2 refers to Satan as the 'prince of the power of the air'. Here is something from John Gill's commentary which will help you understand it (other commentators also agree). (You may need to activate Hebrew font support if you want to see the Hebrew part of the text)

...according to the prince of the power of the air: "which is not to be understood of any supposed power the devil has over the air, by divine permission, to raise winds, but of a posse, or body of devils, who have their residence in the air; for it was not only the notion of the Jews (m), that there are noxious and accusing spirits, who fly about באויר, "in the air", and that there is no space between the earth and the firmament free, and that the whole is full of a multitude of them; but also it was the opinion of the Chaldeans (n), and of Pythagoras (o), and Plato (p), that the air is full of demons: now there is a prince who is at the head of these, called Beelzebub, the prince of devils, or the lord of a fly, for the devils under him are as so many flies in the air, Mat_12:24 and by the Jews called (q), רבהון דרוחיא, "the prince of spirits"; and is here styled, the Spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience; by which spirit is meant, not the lesser devils that are under the prince, nor the spirit of the world which comes from him, and is not of God; but Satan himself, who is a spirit, and an evil, and an unclean one; and who operates powerfully in unbelievers, for they are meant by children of disobedience, or unbelief; just as בני מהימנותא, "children of faith" (r), in the Jewish dialect, designs believers; and over these Satan has great influence, especially the reprobate part of them; whose minds he blinds, and whose hearts he fills, and puts it into them to do the worst of crimes; and indeed, he has great power over the elect themselves, while in unbelief, and leads them captive at his will; and these may be said in their unregeneracy to walk after him, when they imitate him, and do his lusts, and comply with what he suggests, dictates to them, or tempts them to."

These demon spirits can do all sorts of things that entice people to fall under their sway. Supposed psychic visions is a popular one because people have such hunger to know these things that they are easy prey for the one who is also known as "a roaring lion".

 

[koppee1]

i wouldn't really know...but the bible tells us to "test" the spirits...so...ask God to take it away if it isn't from Him.

 

[~Dream_Stars~]

more bible stuff

Act 2:17 'It will be in the last days, says God, That I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh. Your sons and your daughters will prophesy. Your young men will see visions. Your old men will dream dreams.


Dan 1:17 Now as for these four youths, God gave them knowledge and skill in all learning and wisdom: and Daniel had understanding in all visions and dreams.


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what does God say aginst the other dreams?

Jer 23:32 Behold, I am against those who prophesy lying dreams, says Yahweh, and do tell them, and cause my people to err by their lies, and by their vain boasting: yet I didn't send them, nor commanded them; neither do they profit this people at all, says Yahweh


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dreams can come from ether side,

think why did king saul go to the witch??

1Sa 28:6 When Saul inquired of Yahweh, Yahweh didn't answer him, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets.

if God wasnt going to tell him he was going to find someone that was

so psychic dreams of them selfs cant be a sin unless they were sent from the devl,

because to say psychic, forth telling dreams are sins
is saying God is a doer of wrong

 

[LeahRJ]

it depends. it could be a spiritual gift of prophesy (ie joseph and his dreams in the Bible). but it just depends on how the visions happen; if one wills them, etc.

 

[~Dream_Stars~]

*nods* i agree with that one

 

[lionroar0]

Psychic visions. First I would say we have to define the difference between a psychic vision and a vision from God. We have to set up paramater and test the visions.
ARe the visions coming after envoking familiar spirts? A self induce trance? In other words is there a connectino with God? If the answer is no then I would say they are not from God. If there is a connection then they are from God. The only way to find this out is by testing these visions.

 

[ChristianMuse]

Defining what they are? I think it is up to amerilovesjesus. If she would give us an example of what she thinks is a psychic vision and the circumstances surrounding it we may be able to understand her question.

In the end though it boils down to spiritual discernment. For what God does the enemy tries to copy. With many people it is hard to tell the difference because they look at rules of use. Others have the wrong spirit guiding them. amerilovesjesus should seek out someone she can trust in her own community for an answer. Anyone who thinks they have long-distance discernment can give it a try... just be sure of your answer. This is a subject no one should guess at.

 

[mrnnfaber]

In agreement with the former posts I would lke to add: I think if it is a response to a prayer to God, then it must be coming from God (therefore not sin):

"If a son shall ask bread of any of you that is a father, will he give him a stone? or if [he ask] a fish, will he for a fish give him a serpent? [Luk, 11:11]"

regards,
anne

 

[ChristianMuse]

In agreement with the former posts I would lke to add: I think if it is a response to a prayer to God, then it must be coming from God (therefore not sin):

I wish that would be the case all of the time. I find that most of the time it is not the case. Someone in an earlier post wrote that we must try the spirit of the vision. I believe those with the gift of discerning spirits should also speak out. Sometimes it is hard to weed out wheat from the chaff... but the effort needs to be made. Wheat gives life... the chaff chokes.

 

[mrnnfaber]

I wish that would be the case all of the time. I find that most of the time it is not the case. Someone in an earlier post wrote that we must try the spirit of the vision. I believe those with the gift of discerning spirits should also speak out. Sometimes it is hard to weed out wheat from the chaff... but the effort needs to be made. Wheat gives life... the chaff chokes.

<<I wish that would be the case all of the time. I find that most of the time it is not the case. >>
This scares me a lot. If God abandons His own and let the evil respond to a holy prayer, then what else is there to trust?

<<Sometimes it is hard to weed out wheat from the chaff... but the effort needs to be made.>>
If this cannot be done through prayer to God, then how? Please clarify - thanks a lot.
anne

 

[ChristianMuse]

It is not that God abandons his own people. A person can seek God for answers. Yet, there are those who wish to find answers in ways or methods that are not scriptural and through methods that are contradictory to scripture.

1. When you came to the Lord you had a first contact. God's Spirit witnessed to your spirit that the message of the gospel is true. It is to that "voice" that you have to trust. It says in scripture that his sheep hear his voice. Listen to his voice, the spiritual witness, that you first received. You have heard that voice more than once as his Spirit moved in you. That is your own perspective. It is very important.

2. Know your bible. It is the basic document upon which all truth for salvation and obedience rest. Know God's word and you will know things about God's Word. He is truth and his words are truth.

3. Get the counsel of those who know the word and have discerning of spirits. Though it is a specific gifting it can be seen at work in most individuals.

Not everyone who says they are Christian are Christians (beware the wolves dressed in sheep's clothing). Other Christians may not know enough of the truth to help you (babes in Christ, and they can be Christians for 50 years and still be babes). In the end it is you and Jesus. Trust the Spirit who has sealed you to Jesus.

 

[mrnnfaber]

It is not that God abandons his own people. A person can seek God for answers. Yet, there are those who wish to find answers in ways or methods that are not scriptural and through methods that are contradictory to scripture.

1. When you came to the Lord you had a first contact. God's Spirit witnessed to your spirit that the message of the gospel is true. It is to that "voice" that you have to trust. It says in scripture that his sheep hear his voice. Listen to his voice, the spiritual witness, that you first received. You have heard that voice more than once as his Spirit moved in you. That is your own perspective. It is very important.

2. Know your bible. It is the basic document upon which all truth for salvation and obedience rest. Know God's word and you will know things about God's Word. He is truth and his words are truth.

3. Get the counsel of those who know the word and have discerning of spirits. Though it is a specific gifting it can be seen at work in most individuals.

Not everyone who says they are Christian are Christians (beware the wolves dressed in sheep's clothing). Other Christians may not know enough of the truth to help you (babes in Christ, and they can be Christians for 50 years and still be babes). In the end it is you and Jesus. Trust the Spirit who has sealed you to Jesus.

I think I understand now what you mean. Thanks a lot for the advice - it was very helpful.

anne

 

[MbiaJc]

Is having psychic visions.. a sin?..

I would need to know more to answer your question. However I will tell you of my vision or dream, I don't know which it was. It happened on Friday night after I had put out a fleece. I had been studying the Bible all week to teach on Sunday about the body of Christ(the Church) and how it should function. But what I was learning was different than what I had always been taught. I asked God to give me some sign that what I was learning was from Him and not my imagination. On Friday night I dreamed or saw Jesus taken up to heaven in the cloudy. I been teaching what I learned ever seence. I been called a false teacher and kicked out of two churches, but still teaching the same thing. Btw I was raised Southern Baptist, and was in a SBC at the time.

Grace and Peace

 

[~Dream_Stars~]

1. When you came to the Lord you had a first contact. God's Spirit witnessed to your spirit that the message of the gospel is true. It is to that "voice" that you have to trust. It says in scripture that his sheep hear his voice. Listen to his voice, the spiritual witness, that you first received. You have heard that voice more than once as his Spirit moved in you. That is your own perspective. It is very important.

2. Know your bible. It is the basic document upon which all truth for salvation and obedience rest. Know God's word and you will know things about God's Word. He is truth and his words are truth.

3. Get the counsel of those who know the word and have discerning of spirits. Though it is a specific gifting it can be seen at work in most individuals.

thank you dude this i think is what ppl were looking for ^^