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is God a trinity or a dualigy
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To be honest I find the Jehovas witnesses theory to be the most logical. The Father is the creator (The first, God), the Holy Spirit is the force of God working in men, Jesus is the creation of God and since nothing is impossible for God he made Jesus his equal. Jesus is as importent and great as the Father and therefore him dying on the cross matters a great deal. For the record, I agree that Jesus was at the beginng and "was" before his birth as a human.
Why do I believe this:
Jesus often prayed to God (this goes to show that they are 2 different beings) and the Holy Spirit is described as a force working in men. But this leads me to wonder, are we a monotheistic religion or aren't we?
Why do I believe this:
Jesus often prayed to God (this goes to show that they are 2 different beings) and the Holy Spirit is described as a force working in men. But this leads me to wonder, are we a monotheistic religion or aren't we?
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One God in three persons. The same in form and substance. The trinity is not three entities, but three persons.
Person - 1 archaic : bodily appearance b : the body of a human being; also : the body and clothing <unlawful search of the person> 2 a : one of the three modes of being in the Trinitarian Godhead as understood by Christians b : the unitary personality of Christ that unites the divine and human natures
ENTITY - 1 a : BEING, EXISTENCE; especially : independent, separate, or self-contained existence b : the existence of a thing as contrasted with its attributes 2 : something that has separate and distinct existence and objective or conceptual reality
Person - 1 archaic : bodily appearance b : the body of a human being; also : the body and clothing <unlawful search of the person> 2 a : one of the three modes of being in the Trinitarian Godhead as understood by Christians b : the unitary personality of Christ that unites the divine and human natures
ENTITY - 1 a : BEING, EXISTENCE; especially : independent, separate, or self-contained existence b : the existence of a thing as contrasted with its attributes 2 : something that has separate and distinct existence and objective or conceptual reality
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"wheres the biblical proof? Besides that link.
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HUH? that's like asking for biblical evidience but don't use the bible..LOL. That link has great biblical evidience.
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HUH? that's like asking for biblical evidience but don't use the bible..LOL. That link has great biblical evidience.
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i know u guys just wanted to stir ya up...I would never believe in GOd being a dualigy...theres big proof in Ephesions any way...
God Bless and have a blessed Christmas.
God Bless and have a blessed Christmas.
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Great way to do a foolish thing then....making an argument just to make an argument is very unbiblical.
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actually i wanted to see proof because it was an argument that my friend brought up and i needed a little help with it.
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If You mean does the Bible say that there is a Trinity? Not in so many words. Elohim mean one and plurality. There is also the describtion of God as a Godhead, than there is the Comforter. The Father, plus Jesus, plus the Comforter, the Holy Spirit, equals Trinity.
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new2calvin -
No.
And Matthew Slick's attempt to prove it, is one of the weakest I have ever seen in my entire life.
No.
And Matthew Slick's attempt to prove it, is one of the weakest I have ever seen in my entire life.
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really i have found the verse that proves there is a trinity in my studies of the Bible. This is in the King James Version of the Bible. It's in 1 John 5:7-For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. so there is the biblical proof of the Bible for ya. I guess God showed me the answer to my own problem. BUt thanks everyone for your help.
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new2calvin -
No, that's not "Biblical proof" at all. It's nothing more than a deliberate mangling of God's Word, perpetrated by men who believed in the Trinity but realised that the Bible never mentions it.
For a discussion of I John 5:7 and other Trinitarian frauds, see here.
No, that's not "Biblical proof" at all. It's nothing more than a deliberate mangling of God's Word, perpetrated by men who believed in the Trinity but realised that the Bible never mentions it.
For a discussion of I John 5:7 and other Trinitarian frauds, see here.
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