Is God a liar?

[SolomonVII]

We go with what the evidence shows until new evidence comes up so that the sum of all evidence indicates something else.

Yes that is pretty much what I was saying.

IOW, at one time, the best evidence indicated the earth was flat. Now the evidence indicates it is spheroid. At one time, the best evidence indicated Newtonian Physics. Now the evidence indicates Relativity. Someday we will have new information, and Relativity will be a thing of the past along with Newtonian Physics.[/QUOTE]
That insight serves as the basis for my critique of the original question here. It is a very good rhetorical question, and it does serve to really probe how committed people are to the truth, as it presents itself. How much do we as Christians honor the truth for example, when we accept dogma that contradicts our best observations?
But, from the perspective of recognizing changing perceptions over the centuries, the truths that God led us to in centuries gone by is very different than the truth that God leads us into seeing now. If God is not lying now, was he lying then? Will he be lying when our current paradigms of scientific knowledge get displaced, as they almost surely will. When viewed from the perspective of the history of ideas, that is where the original question will lead us to.
The answer to the question is of course no on all counts, and this can be so only when we recognize that the question is a rhetorical one, even delightfully so.

To love God is to love the truth, and to be in love with the truth is to go to where the truth leads us, even when it tears down some of our most cherished and sacred ideals.
However, the historical perspective gives a further valuable insight that mitigates against hubris. Truth through science is something that is never really arrived at. Nature and the heavens may veritably sing out the glory of God without being the truth. Truth, like God, transcends nature, and even then the fullness of nature is forever beyond our complete understand.

It is actually hubris that fuels the 'creation debates' on both sides. there is the hubris of the scientific materialists, who believe that the truths that they arrive at are absolute, and anything outside of the questions they ask are in effect meaningless anyway, and their is the hubris of those addressed by the OP question here who believe that their seemingly infallible readings of the Bible render the best evidence of scientific observation null and void.

 

[Open Heart]

To love God is to love the truth

THREE FOLD AMEN

 

[SkyWriting]

IOW, at one time, the best evidence indicated the earth was flat. Now the evidence indicates it is spheroid.

Leaning more toward flat now.

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[Aman777]

IOW, at one time, the best evidence indicated the earth was flat. Now the evidence indicates it is spheroid.

Not so, since Genesis has not changed and it shows that Adam's firmament, which God called "Heaven" was flat. The flood prevailed upon Adam's Earth to a depth of 15 cubits (22.5 feet) and covered the mountains. Gen 7:20 You have confused Adam's flat Earth, which was totally destroyed in the flood ll Peter 3:6 with the present Earth, which has NEVER suffered a Global flood. FYI, The Earth is a rock with a molten core and is covered with water but doesn't sink. Amen?

 

[SolomonVII]

Not so, since Genesis has not changed and it shows that Adam's firmament, which God called "Heaven" was flat. The flood prevailed upon Adam's Earth to a depth of 15 cubits (22.5 feet) and covered the mountains. Gen 7:20 You have confused Adam's flat Earth, which was totally destroyed in the flood ll Peter 3:6 with the present Earth, which has NEVER suffered a Global flood. FYI, The Earth is a rock with a molten core and is covered with water but doesn't sink. Amen?

Scientist tells us that the whole universe is remarkably flat, relatively speaking.

Other than that, you are making the sales pitch, but I am not buying, anymore than I am buying that prime swampland in Florida that you have to sell.

 

[Aman777]

Scientist tells us that the whole universe is remarkably flat, relatively speaking.

Other than that, you are making the sales pitch, but I am not buying, anymore than I am buying that prime swampland in Florida that you have to sell.

It's easy to make a model of Adam's flat Earth. Take any container/firmament and put water into the bottom of the container and put dry ground on top of the water. The "mountains" on Adam's Earth were only 22.5 feet high. Gen 7:20 His entire Earth had but 4 Rivers which came from a single River which flowed from the Garden of Eden, which was obviously the highest point on Adam's small Earth. Gen 2:10

Adam's firmament or solid metallic boundary of his entire world fit into a Lake in Turkey which is but 75 miles wide. The firmament sank when the windows on high were opened, releasing the 450 ft Ark into our world. Don't you know the story?