Is Freemasonry really Satanic?

[DominicBaptiste]

I provided links to explain in my original post.

Here's another:

MASONS AND OTHER OCCULTISTS REVERE THE NUMBER 33 ABOVE ALL OTHER NUMBERS. MANY ACTS OF WAR, MURDER, AND ASSASSINATION HAVE OCCURRED ON OR NEAR THE 33RD DEGREEE PARALLEL. IS IT COINCIDENCE BAGHDAD, IRAQ IS LOCATED ON 33RD NORTH PARALLEL?

Confirm in prayer with God Himself, He'll tell you.

Blessings and Shalom.

Thanks for the information.

 

[Albion]

Incidentally, this "number 33" claim is one of the easiest for anyone to dispel. It is no secret -- and any little bit or research will confirm it -- that a man becomes a Master (i.e. full) Mason at the 3rd degree, not the 33rd. Such a member could later become an officer of the state organization and, I suppose that to some extent this might be considered "higher," but no additional degrees will do it. A Master Mason can, if he wishes, join one or more of a large number of related organizations,- but most never do.

The claim, therefore, that "Masons" have a special regard for the number 33 should immediately be seen as false.

As was already said by another poster, the organization that has different degrees leading up to the 33rd degree is the Scottish Rite, but even there, the preceding ones (4-32) are not sequential or hierarchical or anything of that sort. It doesn't work that way.

 

[Rick Otto]

My 2nd great grandfather and his brothers founded the first Masonic Lodge in Northeast Alabama in their small Baptist Church. There was no lodge building. They were farmers of Scottish family background. As far as I know my dad and grandfather weren't ever in it, but I have an uncle by marriage in Georgia, also a baptist, and he's been a Mason for 30 years. I think there are large, better organized Masonic Lodges in bigger cities, but my impression of the one my family started is that it was some country gentlemen entertaining themselves in their small church. I'm also putting a video I made of the Masonic Lodge in Huntsville, Alabama that I visited a couple years ago during an open house they had on the same day as the Tour of Homes in the historic district around Christmas. I think the Huntsville lodge was the first one in the state, and I don't think that we were ever part of it. My family aren't from Huntsville. We were county people. My 2nd great grandfather is the one in the front in the picture with his vest popped open. He actually was the one in charge. :^)

Some kids in my neighborhood got hold of a Ouija board, once.

 

[GeorgeJ]

The Lord said to give you both Jeremiah 28.

 

[Rick Otto]

So I read it a couple of times...
Did He happen to say why?

 

[akaDaScribe]

Dr. Walter Martin
This guy was a theologian who specialized in cults.
In fact he wrote a book called King of the Cults, among many other books.
He was on a radio show called "the bible answer man" and he was the man answering the questions. XD

He is from like the 70-80's
Translation: He was established and published before just anyone could write a book and publish it.

He is not the only person who has written about them either.
I know Free Masons, some of whom are Christian.
I think the majority of them are lower level and join the group to do charitable work.
Most of them are not even aware of what goes on higher up.
It's been pretty well established for a long time that what they do at higher levels is at a minimum, incompatible with Christianity.

 

[JM]

Freemasonry is not satanic. It's not Christian either. It's not a religion.

 

[akaDaScribe]

Freemasonry is not satanic. It's not Christian either. It's not a religion.

Have you researched it?

 

[JM]

Have you researched it?

Yes. Have you?

 

[akaDaScribe]

Yes.
No where near as much as the author i posted though.
But you researched it and concluded that all of the information written about it is false?

 

[JM]

I've concluded that no official teaching or interpretation of Freemasonry has been given by any Lodge.

 

[Albion]

I know Free Masons, some of whom are Christian.
I think the majority of them are lower level and join the group to do charitable work.
Most of them are not even aware of what goes on higher up.
It's been pretty well established for a long time that what they do at higher levels is at a minimum, incompatible with Christianity.

It has NOT been established for any length of time that these conspiracy theories have any validity, and certainly not that Masonry is incompatible with Christianity. It may be incompatible with the doctrines of some ultra-conservative or fundamentalistic churches but not with Christianity itself and certainly not because of the silly conspiracy theories and their claims that people pick up online.

What is required of an aspirant is a belief in one God and life after death. Otherwise, he is expected to follow the tenets of his own religion...and no worship occurs in the Masonic lodge, nor is there any Masonic god, although that too is a popular myth.

No where near as much as the author i posted though.
But you researched it and concluded that all of the information written about it is false?

Dr. Walter Martin also wrote an entire chapter in that book you cited in which he explains that the Roman Catholic Church is a cult, no less than the Jehovahs Witnesses. Is that your belief, also?

 

[akaDaScribe]

Martin examines a large number of new religious movements; included are major groups such as Christian Science, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, Jehovah's Witnesses, Armstrongism, Theosophy, the Bahá'í Faith, Unitarian Universalism, Scientology, and the Seventh-day Adventist Church, as well as minor groups including various New Age and groups based on Eastern religions. The beliefs of other world religions such as Islam and Buddhism are also discussed.

I'm not sure which of those groups you are equating to Catholic.

 

[Albion]

I'm not sure which of those groups you are equating to Catholic.

None. I was referring to the Roman Catholic Church itself which meets Martin's
definition of a cult--in the original version of his book, that is. It has been modified and re-released.

 

[akaDaScribe]

I've been looking for the original book because it's somewhere in my house. My son asked me about it one day and i don't know where he put it. Obviously, this made me annoyed.

Instead I found notes i wrote from 1999 when i was fasting, which oddly enough what I've been doing. So I am going to have to couch my opinion on this matter. Apparently I'm supposed to be focusing on something else.

But as for my opinion about Catholics, I feel the same way i do about all denominations. They have some areas of strength and some of weakness.

Anyway, though my ego would like to keep going, I'm looking forward to seeing where I end up instead.

 

[akaDaScribe]

And of course after my last post my wife just found the book. It looks like the original came out in 1965 and mine is 1977 anyway. Just struck me as funny so i decided to share it. XD

 

[Rhamiel]

I wouldn't go so far as to call Free Masonry satanic but I would say it is extremely problematic for a christian. Here in the US FM is more or less benign syncretistic in nature. In Europe in times past FM was far more aggressive and overtly anti-christian. My Grandfather was a Scottish Rite Mason who wanted me to join. After learning what they taught I declined. I think he was always disappointed because I objected to FM.

Syncretism and religious indifference are demonic lies, freemasonry also has a lot of Kabbalah influenced symbolism and concepts

 

[1stcenturylady]

One of the symbols of Free Masonry is the upside down star - the pentegram, well known to have satanic ties. Joseph Smith was a Free Mason, and the pentegram is in the masonry above all the doors of the tabernacle in Salt Lake City. You can google the pictures.

 

[Albion]

One of the symbols of Free Masonry is the upside down star - the pentegram, well known to have satanic ties.

A similar star is the symbol of the Order of the Eastern Star, not Masons; and it was adopted by Satanists only in fairly recent history, long after the development of Freemasonry.

As with most other such conspiracy theories, this one is the truth...except for almost everything about it.

 

[1stcenturylady]

A similar star is the symbol of the Order of the Eastern Star, not Masons; and it was adopted by Satanists only in fairly recent history, long after the development of Freemasonry.

As with most other such conspiracy theories, this one is the truth...except for almost everything about it.

Are you not aware that the Order of the Eastern Star is for the wives of Masons? It is the female counter-part, though men can also join.

I was invited to a "church" service of a cult that was renting the local Masonic Lodge. My husband and I went to it to help our friends get out of the cult. The lighting fixture was a huge stained glass pentagram as shown on google, under the Order of the Eastern Star. We were successful in convincing our friends that they needed to rethink this. They never went back.