Is forced vaccination related to the mark of the beast?

[Timtofly]

Why put your faith and trust in your seatbelt? Why put your faith and trust in your flotation device? Why put your faith and trust in your leash? Why put your faith and trust in your parachute?

I don't.

 

[Timtofly]

It isn't putting faith and trust in a vaccine it's knowledge that these things work and that God created our immune system the way it did that allows for an innoculation to be protective.

When it goes against the will of two or more humans it becomes counterproductive. My point was not even about practicality. It is the irrational fear of the unknown, that I was pointing out.

 

[robycop3]

Vaccines work; the proof is the eradication of the once-common smallpox, and the near-elimination of polio from the USA. Nothingta do with the marka the beast.

The mark will be literal. Now, while the AC likely won't fool with such remote people as the Waironi of Equador, as they don't do business with outsiders anyway, he will still have domination over them, as they couldn't fight against a modern army. (Another such people are the Fore of New Guinea.)

Think about it-how else could the AC control buying & selling except to limit access to it ? And making one's pay & store access obtainable only by microchip would be such a method.

 

[claninja]

In the video below during a meeting of the World Federalist Association Cronkite says he is willing to sit at the right hand of Satan to bring about world government. The lady at the end of the video almost became president of the United States during 2016.

Person 1: "if you like pineapple pizza, then you must be crazy"
Person 2: "then call me crazy".

Walter Cronkite claims that Pat Robinson's book argues that a one world government should only be brought about by the return of Jesus, and that any attempt at world order prior to this is through work of satan. Walter Cronkite then jokes about sitting at the right hand of satan.

What is the "world order" that the world federalist association promotes?

From: https://www.wfm-igp.org/
"As world federalists, we view the world as one society embracing all of humanity in all its diversity. We affirm that the ideals and principles of community life which are basic to civilized existence can and must be applied to international relations. We also affirm our determination to exercise our rights and responsibilities as citizens of the whole world in order to achieve the high purposes of the United Nations. To this end, we call for urgent progress in developing the democratic world institutions of law by which the world’s people and nations can govern their relations to assure a peaceful, just, and ecologically sustainable world community."

These organizations began to form in response to world war I and II, in order to prevent another war like these from happening

"In the aftermath of World Wars I and II, activists around the world were forming organizations bent on creating a new international system that could prevent another global war." (World Federalist Movement - Wikipedia)

Walter Cronkite is clearly making a joke at the expense of Pat Robinson's dispensation premil beliefs. The goal of the world federalist organization is the prevention of world wars, holding international criminals accountable for crimes against humanity, and addressing global issues like poverty and climate change.

It is laughable to believe that governments of multiple nations coming together to work towards peace, reducing poverty, and fighting climate change, albeit imperfectly, is through the work of satan.

I'm sorry, BAB, but these beliefs are too close to dispensational premil, which is full of unfounded conspiracy theories.

Very few people in this nation are aware of this effort to bring about world government. It is not a theory when those promoting the idea openly state their goals.

What is the goal of the one world government. Please provide source.

 

[BABerean2]

Person 1: "if you like pineapple pizza, then you must be crazy"
Person 2: "then call me crazy".

Walter Cronkite claims that Pat Robinson's book argues that a one world government should only be brought about by the return of Jesus, and that any attempt at world order prior to this is through work of satan. Walter Cronkite then jokes about sitting at the right hand of satan.

What is the "world order" that the world federalist association promotes?

From: https://www.wfm-igp.org/
"As world federalists, we view the world as one society embracing all of humanity in all its diversity. We affirm that the ideals and principles of community life which are basic to civilized existence can and must be applied to international relations. We also affirm our determination to exercise our rights and responsibilities as citizens of the whole world in order to achieve the high purposes of the United Nations. To this end, we call for urgent progress in developing the democratic world institutions of law by which the world’s people and nations can govern their relations to assure a peaceful, just, and ecologically sustainable world community."

These organizations began to form in response to world war I and II, in order to prevent another war like these from happening

"In the aftermath of World Wars I and II, activists around the world were forming organizations bent on creating a new international system that could prevent another global war." (World Federalist Movement - Wikipedia)

Walter Cronkite is clearly making a joke at the expense of Pat Robinson's dispensation premil beliefs. The goal of the world federalist organization is the prevention of world wars, holding international criminals accountable for crimes against humanity, and addressing global issues like poverty and climate change.

It is laughable to believe that governments of multiple nations coming together to work towards peace, reducing poverty, and fighting climate change, albeit imperfectly, is through the work of satan.

I'm sorry, BAB, but these beliefs are too close to dispensational premil, which is full of unfounded conspiracy theories.




What is the goal of the one world government. Please provide source.

The goal is deception. The source is found below.


Rev 18:23 And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived.
Rev 18:24 And in her was found the blood of prophets, and of saints, and of all that were slain upon the earth.


If you think the U.N. charter is founded on the principles of freedom, compare it to the United States Constitution.
Is the source of authority the people, or is it government?

Go to China to an underground church to find out what a government can do to those who belong to Christ.

Read the book "Tortured for Christ" by Richard Wurmbrand, to find out what totalitarian governments can do to Christians.

Do we have a short memory of the atrocities of the past, or is it wishful thinking to believe that a Godless United Nations can bring about World peace?

Never during my lifetime has my nation had to endure this type of persecution.
Many assume it could never happen here.

They ignore the history of our faith, and the words found below.

Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea.

Rev 12:11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.
Rev 12:12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.


There is only one conspiracy.
It started in the garden of Eden, and will continue until the day Christ returns.

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[Jamdoc]

When it goes against the will of two or more humans it becomes counterproductive. My point was not even about practicality. It is the irrational fear of the unknown, that I was pointing out.

Fear? No, it's prudence. It is just like wearing a helmet, wearing a safety belt, looking before you cross the street. I'm not scared of the coronavirus, but I will use prudence to avoid it when I see available means, because that is part of God's providence. When God delivered the remnant from Babylonian captivity back to Israel did He split the sky open and use a supernatural means? No, He called upon Cyrus the Great to deliver Israel on His behalf even though Cyrus did not know God. When the children of Israel were told to build a tabernacle did God poof it into existence? No, He put it on their hearts to gather together the materials, in excess, and gave to the men the skill to work them, and they built it according to His will. God uses human means just as often as He may use supernatural means.

Proverbs 14:15

The simple believeth every word: but the prudent man looketh well to his going.

A simple man can either reject a vaccine because they fear it, or because they don't understand how they work, OR a simple man may take a vaccine believing it protects them but don't know how.

A prudent man will understand the concept of how they work, and weigh in the potential risks, and benefits of getting a vaccine and make a decision in an educated manner. Whether they take the vaccine or not is of less importance than understanding WHY they make that choice. If someone refuses to take the vaccine because they become symptomatic after getting the vaccine like many people react to flu shots, or an allergic reaction to a preservative in the vaccine, or the vaccine has not shown to be effective, that can be a wise choice.
If they get a vaccination because it has been shown to be effective, and they know they are at a higher risk for becoming seriously ill from the disease and the disease spreads through community contact easily, and they do not have negative reactions to vaccines besides some local arm soreness, then it can be a wise decision to get the vaccine.

It is a simple man who refuses a vaccine out of a totally unfounded belief of debunked pseudoscience, or a belief that it is the mark of the beast (without worship, really?).or gets every vaccine available even if their risk is very low and they don't know the potential side effects

So whether you get a vaccination or not, don't be a simple man about it, be a prudent man and look at what you're choices are and make educated choices.

 

[fewme]

I don't.

Come on.

 

[tturt]

How can the mark of the beast not be literal with placement info and buying and selling criteria? How can that be spiritual only ?
"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Rev 13:16-17

 

[BABerean2]

During October of 2019 the Gates Foundation in cooperation with Johns Hopkins did a simulation of a Global Pandemic. One of the key concerns of that event was the control of information.
Judge the following for yourself, based on what we were initially told about COVID-19, and now based on the true death rate.
Plandemic, Part 2

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[TribulationSigns]

How can the mark of the beast not be literal with placement info and buying and selling criteria? How can that be spiritual only ?
"And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name." Rev 13:16-17

The mark of the beast "IS" spiritual in nature that has everything to do with "buying and selling."

First, understand this, the hand is illustrative of man's will, and specifically, the right hand, is the main hand. It is self-evident that the overwhelming majority of people are right handed, meaning, the right hand is the prominent hand. For example, it's the stronger hand, or the hand of power. In the old Testament, when a father will was that his son be blessed, he would signify this by laying his "right hand" upon him. Or When Jesus ascended to the throne of God, He was seated at the "right hand" of God. In these illustrations of the hand, God is giving us a spiritual image of the will. Even today, if you were to say of a friend, that he was your "right hand man," immediately all would understand what you meant. Because it's an illustration of being able to depend upon him. For example, he works like my own right hand, or he does "my will" as if by my own hand. Again, if we were to say, "He had his hand in it also," that would indicate to all that "his Will" was to go along with it, or that he was a "willing participant" in it. That is the significance of the hand in this imagery. The right hand is an idiom for "will and power." Thus when we read Satan's mark is in their right hand, it signifies Satan uses these deceived men as his 'main hand' or as his power to get his will done on earth.

2nd Corinthians 11:13-15

• For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
• And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
• Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

They do his bidding as if it were by Satan's own right hand. They are in servitude to him, are under his authority, and do his will. That is what the mark of the beast on right hand signify!

Now about the forehead, it is where the mind is, and is illustrative of man's thinking. By giving us spiritual images of believers with the name of God written in their foreheads, it is revealed their minds are sealed in Christ Jesus so that their thoughts become one with his. Believers all have one mind as they are all sealed or secured of the Spirit in Christ.

Romans 15:6

• "That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."

1st Corinthians 2:16

• "For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."

Believer's having the name of God written in their foreheads are illustrative of a people who are of one Spirit where God is guiding them in their will and in their thinking. It is the fulfilling of Old Covenant prophecy.

Hebrews 10:16

• "This is the Covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will write My law into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them."

No one would look at Hebrews 10:16 and even begin to think that God means that He's literally written Scripture on someone's heart, or that He has literally carved laws on our foreheads or in our minds. Because of the Spirit we readily understand its imagery or a spiritual metaphor illustrating our spiritual nature. And yet, some theologians will take the verse in Revelation chapter 13, which is an even more obviously symbolic and spiritual book, and try and force the name or number of the non-literal beast, to be literally something marked in one's forehead. And ironically, usually all while looking at the beast, it's horns, and it's rising from the earth and sea, as symbolic. There is no scriptural justification for this type of interpreting. Not in the context, content, or character of the chapter can we "read into" Scripture such ideas. The mark is no more talking about a literal mark, than Hebrews 10:16 is talking about literal marks of Scripture written upon our hearts or passages scribbled in our minds. It is mere symbolism that we are sealed with God's Spirit in our minds (2 Corinthians 1:22, Ephesians 4:30, Revelation 7:3), that we have an earnest desire to obey God's laws and do His will by our hand. It is by the Spirit ingrained upon our hearts and minds that we will and do.

2nd Timothy 1:7

• "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."

Philippians 2:13

• "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."

All true believers have the spirit of a sound mind, the one mind in Christ Jesus. The name of Christ is the word of God, and that is what is spiritually sealed within our minds that we would obey and work and do.

By the same token, those who are deceived by the spirit of Satan also have the same mind. But instead of the mind of lawfulness, they have the mind of lawlessness. Their desire is not to do the will of God, but to be disobedient and do the will of their father, the Devil.

Ephesians 2:2-3

• "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
• Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others."

Jesus told the Scribes and Pharisees that their mind was defiled because they were of their father, the Devil. Why? Because the mind of the people of Israel was given over to that prince or ruler, Satan. Spiritually speaking, he had become their king and held them in bondage (John 8:36). In this same fashion, when the church falls into the apostasy illustrated in Revelation chapter 13, these also will be brought into bondage by Satan. And as the true believers are sealed in their foreheads to signify they are all of one mind in the Spirit of Christ, so these will be spiritually marked in their forehead signifying that they are all of one mind in the spirit of antichrist. Indeed, as it is written:

Revelation 17:13

• "These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast."

One mind, one spiritual father, one character of the beast. Collectively, we have either the mind of Christ, or the mind of Satan. And those who fall away are spiritually defiled. The same type illustration as found in Titus, where it speaks about the mind of the unrighteous being defiled.

Titus 1:15

• "Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled".

This is what the mark on the forehead symbolized. That their mind is defiled and they are all of one spirit to give their hand in work for the beast's kingdom. So again, the mark of the Beast in man's hand and forehead is not a carnal or fleshly mark, rather it is the mark of the flesh, or of carnality. For the carnal mind is illustrated in the will of the flesh. The mind being marked signifies carnal thinking, and the hand signifies the will of the flesh. The mark is a token of the nature of disobedience, and signifies that one does not have the Spirit of God, but is sold out to the flesh. And one who has the mark of the beast in his head, has the sign of death upon him.

Romans 8:5-8

• "For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
• For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
• Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
• So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God."

How can we answer the question, "What is the mark of the beast?" We answer that it is the carnal mind, the mind spiritually marked of the beast that has deceived them that they take on his character and do his will. Their hand is to serve in his kingdom, rather than in Christ's.

And in this same cryptic fashion, Revelation 17:5 talks about the Harlot with a name written on her forehead saying "Mystery Babylon, the Great, the Mother of harlots, and abominations of the earth." Is this a literal woman with literal writing in her forehead? Again, of course not! It is symbolic language signifying a fallen spiritual city that outside looks rich, but inside is abominations and filth. To look for a literal woman with a name literally marked in her forehead would be foolishness. Yet this type of unsound hermeneutic is routinely practiced by many theologians in chapters such as Revelation 13. But in these cryptic images, we see the battle against the one true God, and the images of the god of this world. One Kingdom of the Lamb v.s. the man of law serving God, and the other is the kingdom of God v.s. with the man of lawlessness (sin) serving Satan. Images of the Christ v.s. the image of the beast.

You receive the SPIRITUAL mark of the beast on either right hand or forehead as a judgment from God BECAUSE you buy and sell the FALSE DOCTRINES or LIES that the false prophets brought into church. Remember, God allows those people to BELIEVE A LIE as a judgment for following the beast (body of false prophets and christs) in the unfaithful congregation, 2nd Thess 2:9-12.

The faithful Elect refuses to receive the mark when they hear it. They are being killed, not physically killed, but silence their truthful testimony. This is why God warned His faithful Elect to flee from the unfaithful church WHEN they "see" the abominations therein. Flee the church or receive the mark of the beast serving the false prophets and Christs with lying signs and wonders (false doctrines).

Revelation is a book of symbolism, and to take this buying and selling literally would be just as much a mistake as taking the beast who gives the mark literally. The interpretation of Revelation is not found "out there" somewhere for us to speculate what the mark of the beast may looks like. Rather it is found "in" the Scriptures. Even the very context of this chapter should tell us that it's speaking about false prophets deceiving by means of miracles that the people will worship a false god. Because that's the context. So then, do these false prophets work in department stores and supermarkets and have the power to restrict people buying goods unless they are literally marked in the head and hand? That is crazy talking! This is not what God talks about!

The false prophets work in churches, and that is where their buying and selling is done. Get it?! The gospel of Christ isn't about world politics, computer chips, pandemic, or economics, it's about the Word of God in salvation and judgement. This symbolic language found in Revelation is imagery illustrating false prophets make evil merchandise of the gospel. They sell the things of God, as Esau sold his birthright for a crumb of bread. And doing so, He was cut off from God and brought into servitude of Satan. Jacob and Esau were brothers, both sons of Issac, but one was truly elect, while the other one never really was. It was this son that was not elect, that was cut off.

Like I said before, stop watching the news for speculations and intepreations on the mark of the beast. Get it from the Word of God itself so you know you have the truth!

 

[robycop3]

The mark of the beast "IS" spiritual in nature that has everything to do with "buying and selling."

First, understand this, the hand is illustrative of man's will, and specifically, the right hand, is the main hand. It is self-evident that the overwhelming majority of people are right handed, meaning, the right hand is the prominent hand. For example, it's the stronger hand, or the hand of power. In the old Testament, when a father will was that his son be blessed, he would signify this by laying his "right hand" upon him. Or When Jesus ascended to the throne of God, He was seated at the "right hand" of God. In these illustrations of the hand, God is giving us a spiritual image of the will. Even today, if you were to say of a friend, that he was your "right hand man," immediately all would understand what you meant. Because it's an illustration of being able to depend upon him. For example, he works like my own right hand, or he does "my will" as if by my own hand. Again, if we were to say, "He had his hand in it also," that would indicate to all that "his Will" was to go along with it, or that he was a "willing participant" in it. That is the significance of the hand in this imagery. The right hand is an idiom for "will and power." Thus when we read Satan's mark is in their right hand, it signifies Satan uses these deceived men as his 'main hand' or as his power to get his will done on earth.

2nd Corinthians 11:13-15

• For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
• And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
• Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works."

They do his bidding as if it were by Satan's own right hand. They are in servitude to him, are under his authority, and do his will. That is what the mark of the beast on right hand signify!

Now about the forehead, it is where the mind is, and is illustrative of man's thinking. By giving us spiritual images of believers with the name of God written in their foreheads, it is revealed their minds are sealed in Christ Jesus so that their thoughts become one with his. Believers all have one mind as they are all sealed or secured of the Spirit in Christ.

Romans 15:6

• "That ye may with one mind and one mouth glorify God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ."

1st Corinthians 2:16

• "For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ."

Believer's having the name of God written in their foreheads are illustrative of a people who are of one Spirit where God is guiding them in their will and in their thinking. It is the fulfilling of Old Covenant prophecy.

Hebrews 10:16

• "This is the Covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will write My law into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them."

No one would look at Hebrews 10:16 and even begin to think that God means that He's literally written Scripture on someone's heart, or that He has literally carved laws on our foreheads or in our minds. Because of the Spirit we readily understand its imagery or a spiritual metaphor illustrating our spiritual nature. And yet, some theologians will take the verse in Revelation chapter 13, which is an even more obviously symbolic and spiritual book, and try and force the name or number of the non-literal beast, to be literally something marked in one's forehead. And ironically, usually all while looking at the beast, it's horns, and it's rising from the earth and sea, as symbolic. There is no scriptural justification for this type of interpreting. Not in the context, content, or character of the chapter can we "read into" Scripture such ideas. The mark is no more talking about a literal mark, than Hebrews 10:16 is talking about literal marks of Scripture written upon our hearts or passages scribbled in our minds. It is mere symbolism that we are sealed with God's Spirit in our minds (2 Corinthians 1:22, Ephesians 4:30, Revelation 7:3), that we have an earnest desire to obey God's laws and do His will by our hand. It is by the Spirit ingrained upon our hearts and minds that we will and do.

2nd Timothy 1:7

• "For God hath not given us the spirit of fear; but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind."

Philippians 2:13

• "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."

All true believers have the spirit of a sound mind, the one mind in Christ Jesus. The name of Christ is the word of God, and that is what is spiritually sealed within our minds that we would obey and work and do.

By the same token, those who are deceived by the spirit of Satan also have the same mind. But instead of the mind of lawfulness, they have the mind of lawlessness. Their desire is not to do the will of God, but to be disobedient and do the will of their father, the Devil.

Ephesians 2:2-3

• "Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
• Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others."

Jesus told the Scribes and Pharisees that their mind was defiled because they were of their father, the Devil. Why? Because the mind of the people of Israel was given over to that prince or ruler, Satan. Spiritually speaking, he had become their king and held them in bondage (John 8:36). In this same fashion, when the church falls into the apostasy illustrated in Revelation chapter 13, these also will be brought into bondage by Satan. And as the true believers are sealed in their foreheads to signify they are all of one mind in the Spirit of Christ, so these will be spiritually marked in their forehead signifying that they are all of one mind in the spirit of antichrist. Indeed, as it is written:

Revelation 17:13

• "These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast."

One mind, one spiritual father, one character of the beast. Collectively, we have either the mind of Christ, or the mind of Satan. And those who fall away are spiritually defiled. The same type illustration as found in Titus, where it speaks about the mind of the unrighteous being defiled.

Titus 1:15

• "Unto the pure all things are pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving is nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled".

This is what the mark on the forehead symbolized. That their mind is defiled and they are all of one spirit to give their hand in work for the beast's kingdom. So again, the mark of the Beast in man's hand and forehead is not a carnal or fleshly mark, rather it is the mark of the flesh, or of carnality. For the carnal mind is illustrated in the will of the flesh. The mind being marked signifies carnal thinking, and the hand signifies the will of the flesh. The mark is a token of the nature of disobedience, and signifies that one does not have the Spirit of God, but is sold out to the flesh. And one who has the mark of the beast in his head, has the sign of death upon him.

Romans 8:5-8

• "For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
• For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
• Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
• So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God."

How can we answer the question, "What is the mark of the beast?" We answer that it is the carnal mind, the mind spiritually marked of the beast that has deceived them that they take on his character and do his will. Their hand is to serve in his kingdom, rather than in Christ's.

And in this same cryptic fashion, Revelation 17:5 talks about the Harlot with a name written on her forehead saying "Mystery Babylon, the Great, the Mother of harlots, and abominations of the earth." Is this a literal woman with literal writing in her forehead? Again, of course not! It is symbolic language signifying a fallen spiritual city that outside looks rich, but inside is abominations and filth. To look for a literal woman with a name literally marked in her forehead would be foolishness. Yet this type of unsound hermeneutic is routinely practiced by many theologians in chapters such as Revelation 13. But in these cryptic images, we see the battle against the one true God, and the images of the god of this world. One Kingdom of the Lamb v.s. the man of law serving God, and the other is the kingdom of God v.s. with the man of lawlessness (sin) serving Satan. Images of the Christ v.s. the image of the beast.

You receive the SPIRITUAL mark of the beast on either right hand or forehead as a judgment from God BECAUSE you buy and sell the FALSE DOCTRINES or LIES that the false prophets brought into church. Remember, God allows those people to BELIEVE A LIE as a judgment for following the beast (body of false prophets and christs) in the unfaithful congregation, 2nd Thess 2:9-12.

The faithful Elect refuses to receive the mark when they hear it. They are being killed, not physically killed, but silence their truthful testimony. This is why God warned His faithful Elect to flee from the unfaithful church WHEN they "see" the abominations therein. Flee the church or receive the mark of the beast serving the false prophets and Christs with lying signs and wonders (false doctrines).

Revelation is a book of symbolism, and to take this buying and selling literally would be just as much a mistake as taking the beast who gives the mark literally. The interpretation of Revelation is not found "out there" somewhere for us to speculate what the mark of the beast may looks like. Rather it is found "in" the Scriptures. Even the very context of this chapter should tell us that it's speaking about false prophets deceiving by means of miracles that the people will worship a false god. Because that's the context. So then, do these false prophets work in department stores and supermarkets and have the power to restrict people buying goods unless they are literally marked in the head and hand? That is crazy talking! This is not what God talks about!

The false prophets work in churches, and that is where their buying and selling is done. Get it?! The gospel of Christ isn't about world politics, computer chips, pandemic, or economics, it's about the Word of God in salvation and judgement. This symbolic language found in Revelation is imagery illustrating false prophets make evil merchandise of the gospel. They sell the things of God, as Esau sold his birthright for a crumb of bread. And doing so, He was cut off from God and brought into servitude of Satan. Jacob and Esau were brothers, both sons of Issac, but one was truly elect, while the other one never really was. It was this son that was not elect, that was cut off.

Like I said before, stop watching the news for speculations and intepreations on the mark of the beast. Get it from the Word of God itself so you know you have the truth!

Once again, Sir...

While i usually agree with you, this time I totally DISagree. The mark will be LITERAL. There's no hint of symbolic language in itsw description.

As John didn't know what a microchip is, God just called it a 'mark'.

Again, what better way to control people than a combo of force & financial regulation ?

 

[NoNameNothing]

It is a vaccine to protect from covid 19 virus, for goodness sake.
Would you go in a car without a seat belt?

It is a working together with God for a cure. The same as penicillin when it first was discovered.

Sometimes I despair when I hear these reasonings.

 

[NoNameNothing]

Yeah, but, is there really a need to "vaccinate" people who aren't ill with Coronavirus? Anyway, the man pushing this Vaccination is a Eugenicist, and has already from his own mouth spoken openly about Population Reduction = (se Bill Gates Ted Talk 2015! If you don't believe me... Also the Georgia Guidestones, erected in 1980...look into that,the U.N Agenda 21/2030... look into that!

 

[TribulationSigns]

Once again, Sir...

While i usually agree with you, this time I totally DISagree. The mark will be LITERAL. There's no hint of symbolic language in itsw description.

As John didn't know what a microchip is, God just called it a 'mark'.

Again, what better way to control people than a combo of force & financial regulation ?

LOL. Where are your supporting verses for your nonsenses? You offered NOTHING! Your flawed speculation and assumption are based on "John did not know what microchip looks like." so you developed a theory! Just Wow!

I have quoted more than enough Scripture to back my position up and explained it. Unlike many of you. You are deceived by your man-made speculations or what you learn from YouTube. Simple as that.

You remained refuted as long as you play with a microchip theory on top of the world financial system, etc. You need to learn how to allow Scripture to be its own interpreter, not YouTube.

 

[BABerean2]

Pastor Chuck Baldwin's sermon this week is related to this topic.

Corona Masks and Vaccines, a Glimpse at the Mark of the Beast:

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[TribulationSigns]

Okay, I think I will start a new term..."YouTube Eschatology." This pastor rarely quoted Scripture in his video then twist it into his speculation that made up 95 percent of the video. He's wrong with his Revelation 13 beast interpretation, to begin with anyway.

 

[NoNameNothing]

Why put your faith and trust in your seatbelt? Why put your faith and trust in your flotation device? Why put your faith and trust in your leash? Why put your faith and trust in your parachute?

 

[NoNameNothing]

That comparison to those things is absolutely Ridiculous! I would Not put my Trust in Governmental Edicts these days... Governments allied with Big-Corporations (some of them, are even Bigger than Governments) Also, some of these Governments do Not even acknowledge Jesus-Christ. These Corporations and Governments are U.N & W.H.O-Controlled also...How can you even Trust any Mainstream Media either, controlled by Anti-Christian entities, who Have been caught out telling People everywhere bare-faced lies in the past.

 

[robycop3]

LOL. Where are your supporting verses for your nonsenses? You offered NOTHING! Your flawed speculation and assumption are based on "John did not know what microchip looks like." so you developed a theory! Just Wow!

I have quoted more than enough Scripture to back my position up and explained it. Unlike many of you. You are deceived by your man-made speculations or what you learn from YouTube. Simple as that.

You remained refuted as long as you play with a microchip theory on top of the world financial system, etc. You need to learn how to allow Scripture to be its own interpreter, not YouTube.

Rev. 13: 16 He causes all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hand or on their foreheads, 17 and that no one may buy or sell except one who has the mark or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

I don't think Scripture could be any plainer. Your trick of doing as preterists do, reducing literal Scripture to figurative/symbolic status won't work.

'Tis YOU who is offering nothing but speculation & guesswork against the truth of God's word.

 

[Steve_K]

I think it's a big jump from having to be vaccinated in order to go to school to having to be vaccinated to buy and sell things.

You're absolutely right and that's why they're gradually conditioning us (think boiling frogs metaphor) to eventually accept the mark as a natural progression for our own personal safety and convenience. The powers that be can't just come out and suddenly mandate an invasive chip for no good reason as most people would refuse! They use the Hegelian Dialectic (Create the Problem - Control the Reaction - Offer the Solution) to make people WANT the mark of the beast chip or whatever technology it may be.

I think it will have our personal ID, tracking (contact tracing) capability, proof of vaccination (or as Bill Gates refers to as a 'Digital Certificate'), and then later with the "Great Reset"/cashless society/digital currency and the rise of the Anti-Christ - to buy and sell. This process could take several years to a decade or more, no one knows for sure. It will also be marketed as the ultimate solution against identification fraud, illegal transactions, illegal drug trade, black markets, etc.

The covid vaccines and proof of vaccination are NOT the mark of the beast, but merely another step in the progression towards it. There will be more cataclysmic earth shaking events that will make the mark more urgent and 'necessary' in the coming years.