Is evolution real?

[Ophiolite]

Get back to us when you can explain how mutations add up.

I'm not sure why it is not trivially obvious to you. If we add a change, then another, then another, the end result is necessarily a composite of the previous changes. (This applies even if some of the changes nullify an earlier one.) What about this simple concept is causing you problems?

 

[-57]

I'm not sure why it is not trivially obvious to you. If we add a change, then another, then another, the end result is necessarily a composite of the previous changes. (This applies even if some of the changes nullify an earlier one.) What about this simple concept is causing you problems?

How do you add another then another?

 

[Ophiolite]

How do you add another then another?

By having mutations in different parts of the genome. I'm perplexed that you were seemingly unaware of this. How are you able to confidently contest a theory that you lack even basic knowledge of?

 

[pitabread]

Get back to us when you can explain how mutations add up.

Organisms reproduce and undergo mutations during cell division (e.g. in their gametes). Those mutations become part of their genome of the offspring.

Then when the offspring reproduces, the process repeats and more mutations occur, building on the previously mutated genome.

Etc.

This is genetic reproduction 101.

 

[pitabread]

By having mutations in different parts of the genome. I'm perplexed that you were seemingly unaware of this. How are you able to confidently contest a theory that you lack even basic knowledge of?

What gets me is that not only do creationists not understand evolution, but don't even seem to understand basic biology.

 

[-57]

By having mutations in different parts of the genome. I'm perplexed that you were seemingly unaware of this. How are you able to confidently contest a theory that you lack even basic knowledge of?

I'm perplexed that you didn't explain how a rare, random, so-called beneficial mutation has the ability to overcome the odds and occur again and again in the genome of an animals progeny to the point a new trend is realized.

 

[pitabread]

I'm perplexed that you didn't explain how a rare, random, so-called beneficial mutation has the ability to overcome the odds and occur again and again in the genome of an animals progeny to the point a new trend is realized.

If we're assuming in this instance that said mutation has become fixed in the population, then by definition all organisms will have said mutation. Thus, any subsequent mutations that occur in individuals in the same population will be building on those previously fixed mutations.

There aren't really any "odds" to overcome here. This is simply how population genetics works.

 

[Ophiolite]

I'm perplexed that you didn't explain how a rare, random, so-called beneficial mutation has the ability to overcome the odds and occur again and again in the genome of an animals progeny to the point a new trend is realized.

That seems rather disingenuous. If this was the heart of your point it would have been helpful if you had expressed it explcitly from the outset. Perhaps you did so in an earlier post - if so point me to it.

Regardless, the ability of a beneficial mutation to expand within a population has been observed in the wild, in the laboratory and in computer simulations. If I take the time to find specific instances of this will you give me your assurance that you will take the time to study them thoroughly and with an open mind?

 

[FreeinChrist]

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[solid_core]

In what way does the fact I can write and desire to know things demonstrate that I have a soul.

All you've said is, "If X, then Y," but you haven't demonstrated that there's actually a link there.

That you have a different soul than animals.

Everything that lives and has an identity is a soul.

 

[VirOptimus]

That you have a different soul than animals.

Everything that lives and has an identity is a soul.

And the support for this assertion is...?

 

[solid_core]

And the support for this assertion is...?

All around you. Just open your eyes.

 

[VirOptimus]

All around you. Just open your eyes.

I wont watch an uncommented you-tube video.

And no evidence at all then, just faith.

 

[solid_core]

I wont watch an uncommented you-tube video.

And no evidence at all then, just faith.

Your choice. I am not here for lazies.

 

[VirOptimus]

Your choice. I am not here for lazies.

No, you seem to be here to just preach which is pointless.

 

[solid_core]

No, you seem to be here to just preach which is pointless.

Whatever you wish.

 

[VirOptimus]

Whatever you wish.

I wish for infinite wishes.

 

[solid_core]

I wish for infinite wishes.

You are out of luck.

 

[VirOptimus]

You are out of luck.

At least I havent made empty assertions.

 

[solid_core]

At least I havent made empty assertions.

Atheism is an empty assertion.