So this really didn't have anything to do with the fact that humans give meaning to their lives, which means that a god, or God or GOD isn't necessary.
Now, as far as your analogy goes, "one must imagine Sisyphus happy"...
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Let's say a man tried to build a house literally right next to the ocean. Let's say that it was so close to the ocean that every time the tide came in, the house washed away. Then, let's say the man did this same thing every day for the rest of his life. In your own words, what would you call the man's attempts and labors at building his house next to the ocean? That is how I would compare everything without God.
Why would I think there is an "original true source of meaning". That is not even coherent.
If I tell you how you think, and I am wrong, am I still wrong?
So this really didn't have anything to do with the fact that humans give meaning to their lives, which means that a god, or God or GOD isn't necessary.
Now, as far as your analogy goes, "one must imagine Sisyphus happy"...
Again, you are completely incoherent. How does meaning require a source?Hey Davian! If there isn't an original true source of meaning, then how is there meaning at all? Has meaning always been understood by a mind? Who's mind?
If something doesn't understand meaning, like a mind, then there can be no understanding of meaning at all, ever.
That mind-reading correspondence course you signed up for has not paid off.The first atheist thinks his mind is the original understanding of meaning, no one understood meaning before the first atheist did.
People had meaning in their life prior to the invention of religion.If someone did understand meaning before the first atheist, then who's mind did this meaning come from? A theist?
Like other falsehoods, someone like made it up.Where did the first theist get his understanding of meaning from? God?
It is a strange little world you live in where you think you can actually read the minds of others. Why would anyone ask for (and expect) answers from a fictional character?I'm not telling you how you think, I'm telling you the logical consequence of atheistic thought when it's fully thought out. It ends with the atheist asking for answers from God, not man and when God answers, <logic train derail>
You say that as if meaning is something that can be measured and quantified. But it is something immaterial, debatable. People can find meaning where other people can see none.Lets say humans are buckets and meaning is like water. Each bucket finds itself with some water in it. All buckets start off with the same amount of water. All the buckets begin to wonder where all this water comes from. One bucket in particular has the thought that he filled himself up with water, even though he doesn't actually recall doing it, but he can't imagine the water actually came from a different source than himself. So he goes and tells his friend buckets that the water came from nothing and that all the buckets fill themselves up with this water out of nothing.
Another bucket begins to think that the water does actually come from a different source than himself, he looks up to the heavens and it rains and he is filled with more water from above, he then shares his extra water with others.
Unless you have a hard time imagining humans being filled with meaning and sharing meaning with others, you should instantly understand how this analogy illustrates true meaning coming from God and being passed around from person to person until all are filled with the truth of God.
Lets say humans are buckets and meaning is like water.
You can not refute this though, buddy:Wow. Even after you've failed to support this position,
i said:What is the meaning or goal of existence when it is finite and there is no trace of it to be reminded, or no consciousness to remind it ?
Obviously there is none, in the 'big picture' of our common finite 'natural' reality.
Indeed it is...The denial is strong with this one.
I can:You can not refute this though, buddy:
No, you fail too. Sorry.I can:
Meaning is not universal and absolute.
I know, but you fail to refute me (or rather the logic i presented) too.You are not the arbiter of truth.
You can not refute this though, buddy.
I'd like you to read and consider the post I made above:Nobody, and that is the point.
You might say that, when there is no God, there is no creation, and thus there is no creation to create meaning.There is no meaning when there is no Creator / God.
False premises lead to false logical conclusions. That is your problem.I have no problem.
I ask a question and i answer it logically.
Funny. I quite clearly remember being constantly told that God doesn't want robots.I don't.
God does.
That's why we exist, that's why the universe and life exists.
synonyms of the word meaningless : futile, pointless, aimless, empty, hollow, blank, vain, purposeless, valueless, useless, of no use, worthless, senseless, trivial, trifling, unimportant, insignificant, inconsequential
I don't know how to break it down any easier for you.
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Why wait a trillion years....for the atheist no one cares about you after you die.....what is there to care about?....you no longer exist in any form. There is nothing left of you.....nothing. For the atheist, once you die it is almost as if you never existed......you are, for all intents and purposes, forgotten.
Then let me explain.
If there is nothing after life, there is no purpose for it.
The sun will burn up and that's the end of it, and there will be no trace of our existence anywhere.
No memories either (obviously).
All for nothing...
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