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Behold, I stand at the door and knock, if anyone open the door. Another mistaken verse. Or it may mean something only a few realize evne though it sounds different.Like pretty much everything else in our lives, including our very existence, our salvation was decided without our vote or permission in the matter. So, yeah, Praise be is right!
So that's the only tangible difference between a believer and a non-believer -- their status after death? You don't see any real benefit, or difference, in having a relationship with the Lord here on earth, now?
You forget what God did to those people in the old testament who opposed him, didn't you. You also, like many, have lost fact of the simple truth that God is the SAME, YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND FOREVER. That same God is still my Majesty today.1 John 4:19 says "We love Him, because He first loved us." It doesn't say "we love Him because He first threatened us with torture or annihilation if we didn't."
Like pretty much everything else in our lives, including our very existence, our salvation was decided without our vote or permission in the matter. So, yeah, Praise be is right!
Behold, I stand at the door and knock, if anyone open the door. Another mistaken verse. Or it may mean something only a few realize evne though it sounds different.
Also all the verses where some are not saved, not in heaven, all mistakes too.
That's the status I was referring to. So you don't see any tangible benefit to having a relationship with the Lord now? You had stated that if everyone's going to heaven anyway, we could live any way we wanted to, remember? This sentiment suggests that the only real difference, the only real benefit, to be had in a relationship with Jesus is after death, and that merely to avoid "hell".Sorry ma'am, I don't live for a status - I live for my maker. It's not a matter of our socio-status after death, but the location at which we will spend eternity. I'd rather be in the presence of Almighty than to be separated from Him.
You forget what God did to those people in the old testament who opposed him, didn't you. You also, like many, have lost fact of the simple truth that God is the SAME, YESTERDAY, TODAY, AND FOREVER. That same God is still my Majesty today.
You obviously don't know what sacrifices were used for in the old testament, because you surely wouldn't make this type of statement if you did. Sacrifices were offered up to be accepted by God. God gave his perfect sacrifice to us, so we don't have to continue sacrifiing lambs and doves - He gave us our final sacrifice that if we find ourselves in sin - that separation from God - that we too might be forgiven. HOWEVER to claim such a sacrifice you must first proclaim your loyalty and the Lordship to that God. One who believes not in God claims no such sacrifice to be made on his behalf and is therefore not purified through that sacrifice. Don't muddle up God's perfection with your inability to allow Holy Spirit to rightly divide the truth of God's Word to you.
Myself and others have administered the truth which you don't accept.
Welcome to the reality of taking verses from their contextual meaning.
John 3:16-18 say, 'For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him /B] might be saved. He who believesin Him is not condemned; but He will does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
John 14:6 'Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth and the life, no one comes to the Father except through Me.
These are just two of many verses in Scripture which show the need for each individual to place his/her personal trust in Christ for Salvation.
You had stated that if everyone's going to heaven anyway, we could live any way we wanted to, remember? This sentiment suggests that the only real difference, the only real benefit, to be had in a relationship with Jesus is after death, and that merely to avoid "hell".
See post #17.Your words, not mine.
Well, yes we were, in response to your statement in post #17.We aren't talking about, in this thread, the benefits of being a child of God here and now,
As well as that, yes.but IS EVERYONE GOING TO HEAVEN,
My turn to say, "your words, not mine".By YOUR answer, you must believe that because if everyone IS going to heaven, then the reality is it doesn't matter if we want those "now" benefits here on earth or not - we'll get a room in the eternal mansion.
God bless you too, and thanks again for your insights on this topic.I won't be responding to you on this subject anymore - your mind is made up and only God can help you change that. God Bless.
1 Timothy 2: 1-6
1 I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone 2 for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave himself as a ransom for all menthe testimony given in its proper time.
Yes, God wants all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of truth, so much that He paid the ransom - but guess what not all men WILL come to be saved and come to that knowledge. (Grats on some more out of context work) Yes one day EVERY MAN will know and EVERY KNEE will bow because the Glory of God and His Kingdom will be revealed, but by then it will be past "decision making" time. It will be "judgement time".
I won't be responding to you on this subject anymore - your mind is made up and only God can help you change that. God Bless.
If everyone goes to heaven then the bible has so many lies that so many believe that we should discount it and salvation also!
Either its true (the bible) or all get saved. Both cannot be true.
See post #17.
Well, yes we were, in response to your statement in post #17.
As well as that, yes.
My turn to say, "your words, not mine".I haven't had to wait until life after death to enjoy a relationship with Christ, so I wouldn't be saying, to quote you from post #17, "So let's live like hell and enjoy the ride because no matter what I'm going to heaven!!! WAHOOO!!!!!"
God bless you too, and thanks again for your insights on this topic.
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LOL and that comment in post #17 was to be taken as my literal heart on the matter...
God bless
Well ... if it wasn't, why would you say it?
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