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It's more serious than differing opinions.You are claiming authority where you have none.
We have differing opinions, that's all.
I have backed up my opinions with scripture.
And you have attempted to do the same. lol
Peter said it best.It's more like King Saul seeking extra biblical revelation. And we know how that turned out.
Translation: You cannot biblically substantiate your claim that scripture says:Only because you cannot see it.
You cannot see it because the things of God are spiritually discerned. I'll bet you are off in other areas too if you are typically Pentecostal.Translation: You cannot biblically substantiate your claim that scripture says:
"... the prophetic gifts and tongues ceased with the Apostles who distributed them."
Peter also says scripture is a more sure word of prophecy, even though they actually heard God speak.Peter said it best.
2 Peter 1:19-21
We also have the prophetic message as something completely reliable, and you will do well to pay attention to it, as to a light shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star rises in your hearts. 20 Above all, you must understand that no prophecy of Scripture came about by the prophet’s own interpretation of things. 21 For prophecy never had its origin in the human will, but prophets, though human, spoke from God as they were carried along by the Holy Spirit.
Translation: You have no authority for your claim that:It's more serious than differing opinions.
You mean for example like the time the prophet Samuel corrected Saul for failing to heed the Voice? That sort of thing?It's more like King Saul seeking extra biblical revelation. And we know how that turned out.
God's word says the gifts came through an apostle's hands after the two outpourings. And the Apostles are no longer with us, only in their writings.Translation: You have no authority for your claim that:
"God's word... tells us your ideas are not in line with him."
This is a nebulous statement. Peter's words aren't terribly clear there, and neither is your conclusion.Peter also says scripture is a more sure word of prophecy, even though they actually heard God speak.
The two outpourings show that gifts need not spring from the apostles. They can spring from heaven directly.God's word says the gifts came through an apostle's hands after the two outpourings. And the Apostles are no longer with us, only in their writings.
Your conclusions aren't demonstrable but, according to you, if we could see with your clarity of vision, we'd know them to be true? Funny cult-leaders claim the same thing.You cannot see it because the things of God are spiritually discerned. I'll bet you are off in other areas too if you are typically Pentecostal.
Ok let's be clear. I don't believe in the existence anything non-physical.
(Sigh). But again, that's not the point here. The more you keep pushing that nebulous term, the more you push the sheep away from sensory experience, and thus farther away from the Father. You really want that blood on your hands on judgment day?
The soul need not be molecular/atomic, necessarily, but it must be tangible to interact with the body. To disagree is insanity.Hey you are exaggerating a bit here, its not a nebolous term the soul is not made of atoms is 'spiritual' but is not nebolous at all is well defined, so are the experiences with God, they are well defined and true but it need to be 'tasted' with the soul and spirit who can receive those things, God and our soul and spirit is not material, is spiritual.
There is nothing wrong with that... i'm not posing a treat to anyone lol
What everyone seems to think is that the spirit is not material...
Spirits can manipulate material but not the other way around i think.
In any case is not nebulous or vague at all! spiritual things are well defined too.
The soul need not be molecular/atomic, necessarily, but it must be tangible to interact with the body. To disagree is insanity.
And yes, it is a problem. I gave my own example. In fact I had read numerous books on the Holy Spirit (i.e. the Holy Breath) which told me that it's a 'spiritual' relationship but was getting NOWHERE in my aims to grow intimate with the Father until I learned from Andrew Murray that it was sensory experience.
I have literally churched with thousands of Christians who have NO IDEA about sensory experience because pastors keep telling them it's a spiritual relationship. In fact, I'm not sure if I've ever met a Christian who realizes it's God's will for all of us to see the Father face to face in this life (John 5:37).
That terminology has been potentially DEVASTATING to Christian maturation and it is largely born of the misconception that numinous reality is non-physical, coupled with the failure to realize that consciousness is loudness.
Why do you say that?It's more serious than differing opinions.
That's rich.You cannot see it because the things of God are spiritually discerned. I'll bet you are off in other areas too if you are typically Pentecostal.
The Bible says nothing of the sort. You just made that up.God's word says the gifts came through an apostle's hands after the two outpourings. And the Apostles are no longer with us, only in their writings.
You might want to check out posts 3 and 5 on this thread.Maybe the spiritual is 'superior' to the physical and can interact with it, but not be physical at the same time. God created the physical and he is spirit.
You've got it backwards. Prophecy was before scripture. It has ALWAYS been the more sure word. Peter says, "completely reliable". (and you would do well to pay attention to it)Peter also says scripture is a more sure word of prophecy, even though they actually heard God speak.
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