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Who's interpretation?Bible only, without sectarianism, is this bad?
Consciousness is loudness. I've belabored and demonstrated that (self-evident) point too many times on this thread to bother repeating the effort. ANY impact of the Holy Spirit in our hearts and minds, therefore, can be classified as the divine Voice (Jn 10:27).Those scriptures dont necessarily refer to voices in our head.
I believe all the "Charismatic Gifts" ceased with the completion of the NT Scriptures.Which of these gifts do you claim are no longer in operation? (name all that apply)
- a message of wisdom
- a message of knowledge
- prophecy
- prophetic tongues
- interpretation of prophetic tongues
- distinguishing between spirits
1 Corinthians 12:7-11
Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. 8 To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues. 11 All these are the work of one and the same Spirit, and he distributes them to each one, just as he determines.
Making miracles don't automatically says you are doing things wrong you know, actually it says you are doing well, if God backs you up something right you are doing,
People who don't do miracles in God name can be rejected as well you know.
actually it says you are doing well
Not if they keep the Lords commands.People who don't do miracles in God name can be rejected as well you know.
But you are reading your ideas into their words.A couple of verses worth mentioning here. John 10:27 isn't the only verse. Three times Hebrews alluded to hearing God's voice 'Today' suggesting that 'Today' is eternal( Heb 3:7, 15; 4:7).
Another verse, often overlooked, is Eph 4:21, "If so be that ye have heard him, and have been taught by him, as the truth is in Jesus." What do the commentators say about this verse?
Vincent’s Word Studies commented on Eph 4:21, "Him is emphatic…it was Him that ye heard. Compare Jn 10:27."
Almost verbatim The Jamieson, Fausset, Brown Commentary on Eph 4:21 stated, "The Him‘ is emphatic: ‗heard Himself,‘ not merely heard about him."
The People’s New Testament Commentary on 4:21 finds here no "doubt that they had heard and been taught by Christ."
John Wesley read 4:21 as "heard Him teaching you inwardly by his Spirit."
The Matthew Henry Commentary on 4:21 accepts this translation,"have been taught by him, inwardly and effectually by his Spirit."
According to Charles Hodge‘s Commentary on Ephesians at 4:21, " it does not mean to hear about him but rather recalls what it means ―to hear the voice of God or Christ."
Not sure what this means. You mean you have good behavior? Even the JWs have good behavior. There must be more to it than that.I have more Holy Spirit in my life than I ever did as a Charismatic.
Fullness of the Holy Spirit comes through repentance and holiness.Not sure what this means. You mean you have good behavior? Even the JWs have good behavior. There must be more to it than that.
Wouldn't it have to also include some - oh, I don't know - maybe some loudness?
Only if they keep the Lords commands.
Not if they keep the Lords commands.
These commands:
Matthew 6:19 “Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal; 20 but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. 21 For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Primarily I've been challenging you to explain YOUR experience of such words, to see if it can be done without recourse to loudness. You seem to keep deflecting and evading.But you are reading your ideas into their words.
Holiness.....Primarily I've been challenging you to explain YOUR experience of such words, to see if it can be done without recourse to loudness. You seem to keep deflecting and evading.
Consciousness is loudness. I've belabored and demonstrated that (self-evident) point too many times on this thread to bother repeating the effort. ANY impact of the Holy Spirit in our hearts and minds, therefore, can be classified as the divine Voice (Jn 10:27).
Why assume they do? Jesus said many will boast of miracles but He will reject them.
Consciousness is loudness. I've belabored and demonstrated that (self-evident) point too many times on this thread to bother repeating the effort. ANY impact of the Holy Spirit in our hearts and minds, therefore, can be classified as the divine Voice (Jn 10:27).
But will obviously fool many.
But many will not be from God.
I dont say, but their doctrine may or may not be in line with Jesus commands. I dont follow miracles i follow Jesus commands.. Jesus said many will boast in miracles but be rejected, but those who follow His word will be considered wiseDon't say all the miracles in pentecostal churches are a fraud or of the devil, because that is dangerous and not realistic also. If you do you should stop reading so much John macartur or something.
I dont say, but their doctrine may or may not be in line with Jesus commands. I dont follow miracles i follow Jesus commands.. Jesus said many will boast in miracles but be rejected, but those who follow His word will be considered wise
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