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If they had it, you would have seen it.That's what I am saying. -- All churches have had it all along.
"... little kids playing house"? More ouch.
(do I need to remind you that the Love chapter lives between 1Cor.12 and 1Cor.14?)
"... does not dishonor others..." - vs 5
Nope, I disagree. That's not the point.The few healed were an example of the few saved among the masses of professing believers. The true believers are always that few in number.
Are you a hyper-illiterist? (can't read?) lolWould the creation of the New Heavens and earth be a greater work?
And taking us with him.Are you a hyper-illiterist? (can't read?) lol
That is NOT what Jesus said.
(greater works than the works he was doing because he was going to the Father)
Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit = only few were saved.Nope, I disagree. That's not the point.
In Jesus' hometown, "He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them." - Mk.4:4
Throughout Galilee, "healing every disease and sickness" - Matt.9:35
And gave the twelve authority "to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness" - Matt.10:1
Mark 6:4-6
Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town, among his relatives and in his own home.” 5 He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them. 6 He was amazed at their lack of faith. ...
Matthew 9:35
Jesus went through all the towns and villages, teaching in their synagogues, proclaiming the good news of the kingdom and healing every disease and sickness.
Matthew 10:1
Jesus called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out impure spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
That's not right.If they had it, you would have seen it.
And you accuse us of playing house? You accuse us of imposing a framework on the Bible? You accuse us of having an "agenda"?And taking us with him.
Jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail against the church. You seem to think he was wrong.That's not right.
The gifts were left under the tree.
The Theologians said, "Don't open those, it's the devil."
And most obeyed them.
I didn't trust them, so I peeked.
It looked like a gift that I desired, so I opened it.
I told the others about it. They said, "It's the devil."
If we are Christ's body, how can we not be with him?And you accuse us of playing house? You accuse us of imposing a framework on the Bible? You accuse us of having an "agenda"?
It seems that you are attempting to nullify ALL the gifts of the Holy Spirit.Faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit = only few were saved.
We still have ministry gifts. But the only the Apostles distributed the gifts most charismatics claim to have.It seems that you are attempting to nullify ALL the gifts of the Holy Spirit.
1 Corinthians 12:8-10
To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, 9 to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, 10 to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.
No. I'm storming the gates of hell to toss out those evil gift-denying Theologians.Jesus said the gates of hell will not prevail against the church. You seem to think he was wrong.
I didn't say we weren't with him. I said:If we are Christ's body, how can we not be with him?
If you have the goods, show them.No. I'm storming the gates of hell to toss out those evil gift-denying Theologians.
Today's "gifts" are pure fiction. People pretending to have them but no evidence exists suggesting they do.I didn't say we weren't with him. I said:
"And you accuse us of playing house? You accuse us of imposing a framework on the Bible? You accuse us of having an "agenda"?"
What happened to the small "a" on apostles? Did you change your religion?We still have ministry gifts. But the only the Apostles distributed the gifts most charismatics claim to have.
Nobody today has the background necessary for being an apostle according to the Apostles.What happened to the small "a" on apostles? Did you change your religion?
Anyway, it is the Holy Spirit that distributes the gifts, not the Apostles. (capital A)
Is the Holy Spirit still around? Or have you and your "standard" theologian buddies dismissed Him as well?
No one "has" the "goods". As in personal ownership to use at will.If you have the goods, show them.
Nothing verifies that you have the gifts you say you have.No one "has" the "goods". As in personal ownership to use at will.
They are manifestations of the Holy Spirit. Did you forget that?
These aren't parlor tricks to be performed for your entertainment.
Besides, what good would it do to show you?
If I spoke in tongues, you would say: "Gibberish."
If you were present when someone was healed, you would dismiss it.
If the dead were raised, you would ask to see the Coroner's report.
Did Jesus have "the goods"? Did he "show them"?
Mark 6:4-6
Jesus said to them, “A prophet is not without honor except in his own town, among his relatives and in his own home.” 5 He could not do any miracles there, except lay his hands on a few sick people and heal them. 6 He was amazed at their lack of faith. ...
No evidence?Today's "gifts" are pure fiction. People pretending to have them but no evidence exists suggesting they do.
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