Is celebrating xmas a sin??

[pat34lee]

Are Christians worshiping the sun or Jesus on Christmas Day?

They are mixing forms of worship which is the golden idol sin
and was forbidden.

Deuteronomy 12:29-32
29 When the LORD thy God shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land;
30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou inquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.
32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

 

[dfw69]

They are mixing forms of worship which is the golden idol sin
and was forbidden.

Deuteronomy 12:29-32
29 When the LORD thy God shall cut off the nations from before thee, whither thou goest to possess them, and thou succeedest them, and dwellest in their land;
30 Take heed to thyself that thou be not snared by following them, after that they be destroyed from before thee; and that thou inquire not after their gods, saying, How did these nations serve their gods? even so will I do likewise.
31 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God: for every abomination to the LORD, which he hateth, have they done unto their gods; for even their sons and their daughters they have burnt in the fire to their gods.
32 What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it.

Last I heard Christians are not burning thier children on Christmas Day to offer them to molech ... They are given them presents as a reminder of the gift of Jesus parents giving there children blessings ..not burning them for Santa pleasure

 

[Albion]

Here is where I think the problem lies. Each priestly line served twice during the year,
and also the feasts where all priests served. Abijah's line was the 8th chosen. That would
put Zechariah's service in the early 3rd or late 9th month (Hebrew calendar). John would
have been conceived in mid-summer or winter and born in mid-spring or fall. Jesus would
be born 6 months later, in the 1st or 7th month. Since he came as the lamb and to fulfill
the spring feasts, I believe it was around Nissan 1, when the lambs were born in the spring.
Some like the simile of him 'tabernacling' with us, but since he wasn't fulfilling fall feasts...

You may be right about that. Many people would agree with it. Although other posters have made the same point (although not as well, perhaps), it's still irrelevant to the discussion.

The only thing that matters when it comes to the date on which we celebrate the Nativity of Our Lord is that this was the time that people thought came the closest to the actual date WHEN THE DATE FOR CHRISTMAS WAS SET. Unless you are saying that it's wrong for the church not to move it to some other arbitrary date but closer to the most likely season of the year, there's no significance to this explanation other than to inform us of one of the better guesses.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Last I heard Christians are not burning thier children on Christmas Day to offer them to molech

You would be completely and utterly shocked to find out how the babies are treated as guinea pigs(yes- unkosher) by the u.s.government; and then there is babylon system very active marketing babies souls as well as older people for wickedness only including profit.

 

[dfw69]

You would be completely and utterly shocked to find out how the babies are treated as guinea pigs(yes- unkosher) by the u.s.government; and then there is babylon system very active marketing babies souls as well as older people for wickedness only including profit.

I'm not talking about the government... But Christians who are called pagan for giving gifts on Christmas Day and taking the day off because it is not a feast day

Colossians 2:16

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

I'm not talking about the government... But Christians who are called pagan for giving gifts on Christmas Day

Guess who goes along with the government ? (even doing very very bad things)

 

[dfw69]

Guess who goes along with the government ? (even doing very very bad things)

Who are you accusing ? Come out with it ...

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Who are you accusing ? Come out with it ...

? accusing ? No one. Why ?

 

[dfw69]

? accusing ? No one. Why ?

It seems so ... Unless I'm misunderstanding you which happens a lot through texting ..

 

[dfw69]

Guess who goes along with the government ? (even doing very very bad things)

Who?

 

[dfw69]

You would be completely and utterly shocked to find out how the babies are treated as guinea pigs(yes- unkosher) by the u.s.government; and then there is babylon system very active marketing babies souls as well as older people for wickedness only including profit.

What do you mean?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

It seems so ... Unless I'm misunderstanding you which happens a lot through texting ..

When Yhwh sent Yeshua to heal people,

like the woman who had 5 or so previous husbands,

did Yeshua "accuse" her ?

Or the lepers, did Yeshua "accuse" them of anything ?

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

What do you mean?

If you don't remember the nazi holocaust, it will be awkward and difficult to try to show.
Do you remember anything about it ? -- the horrors, the death-dealing, the documentaries on the last month (OETA PBS Nationwide? Broadcast on Antenna Tv)
showing ALL (almost) the churches saluting "HEIL H****R" ! when that evil one was beginning to rise to power ?

 

[dfw69]

When Yhwh sent Yeshua to heal people,

like the woman who had 5 or so previous husbands,

did Yeshua "accuse" her ?

Or the lepers, did Yeshua "accuse" them of anything ?

I don't think so

 

[dfw69]

If you don't remember the nazi holocaust, it will be awkward and difficult to try to show.
Do you remember anything about it ? -- the horrors, the death-dealing, the documentaries on the last month (OETA PBS Nationwide? Broadcast on Antenna Tv)
showing ALL (almost) the churches saluting "HEIL H****R" ! when that evil one was beginning to rise to power ?

Yes I've watched many documentaries

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Yes I've watch many documentaries

As Yhwh sent Yeshua to heal the sick, to heal the sinners, to restore the lost and weak and feeble (all and all as Scripture shows),

even when men were so wicked and sick that they actually sought to crucify Him thinking it was good to do ! ....
even as men in germany(as an example here; NOT only germany, not be a long shot) were so wicked and sick to slaughter millions upon millions of Jews and gentiles ....

Yhwh by grace and power and truth in Yeshua called and chose disciples to "go and do likewise" as Yeshua had done
as
the same scenario is playing out again all over the world....

Not to accuse the sick or the weak or the lost or even the guilty,
but to free them; to heal them; to restore them fully ; Yhwh Willing they are willing.

 

[dfw69]

As Yhwh sent Yeshua to heal the sick, to heal the sinners, to restore the lost and weak and feeble (all and all as Scripture shows),

even when men were so wicked and sick that they actually sought to crucify Him thinking it was good to do ! ....
even as men in germany(as an example here; NOT only germany, not be a long shot) were so wicked and sick to slaughter millions upon millions of Jews and gentiles ....

Yhwh by grace and power and truth in Yeshua called and chose disciples to "go and do likewise" as Yeshua had done
as
the same scenario is playing out again all over the world....

Not to accuse the sick or the weak or the lost or even the guilty,
but to free them; to heal them; to restore them fully ; Yhwh Willing they are willing.

I understand the need for Christian witnesses to be sent ...but there will come a time when Christianity will no longer be tolerated and people will begin to favor another way to the father and the the gentile program will come to an end .... Darkness will come when no man can preach... I believe this is when the rapture will take place ... One reason being God does not want his followers to stray away from the coming lies and deceptions ... It's already happening imo

 

[pat34lee]

Last I heard Christians are not burning thier children on Christmas Day to offer them to molech ... They are given them presents as a reminder of the gift of Jesus parents giving there children blessings ..not burning them for Santa pleasure

Israel didn't burn children either. They called their golden calf
Yahweh, the God who brought them out of Egypt, thinking they
were granting him honor because that was how the Egyptians
did it. He almost killed them all for it, so I don't think he was
impressed.

 

[yeshuaslavejeff]

Israel didn't burn children either. They called their golden calf
Yahweh, the God who brought them out of Egypt, thinking they
were granting him honor because that was how the Egyptians
did it. He almost killed them all for it, so I don't think he was
impressed.

Looking at children as vessels (as we all are vessels for honor or for dishonor as it is written in Scripture) ,
is their any people(group/ nation/ culture) who do not fill their children with dishonor ?
I don't remember if Israel
ever did this largely (noted in OT),
but wouldn't be surprised if they did and it was recorded as a lesson for us (but we (the usa) didn't get the lesson ! ) ....

 

[dfw69]

Israel didn't burn children either. They called their golden calf
Yahweh, the God who brought them out of Egypt, thinking they
were granting him honor because that was how the Egyptians
did it. He almost killed them all for it, so I don't think he was
impressed.

Where does it say they called the golden calf Yahweh?.... From my understanding they began to worship another God not Yahweh but began to be a harlot to willfully turn away from the covenant they said they would keep ... And began to commit fornication and rioting ... To be like other nations who knew not the power of Yahweh ...

In any case if one is under the law then yes I can see the law judging and condemning Christmas practices because one should only honor the feast of the lord being under the law


But we Christians are not under the law ..we are under the new covenant laws of sowing and reaping ... We believe to place ourselves back into the law is to put ourselves back under its power of curses and blessings...and it shipwrecks our faith in Christ fulfillment of the law for us ... My point being is if we were still under the law then the law would have condemn every Christian who has sinned ... Jesus would not have saved the world but condemn it because the world does not follow the law

It's only pagan when the law is in place .. Without the law there is freedom and no condemnation

I thank Jesus he became the bearer of the law blessing and curse for me .... He is our only hope to behold the father

So is Christmas a sin? ... From a Jewish standpoint being under the law, yes for the Jews and they should not practice Christmas but only the feast of the lord should they honor and keep ... That is what thier law demands of them

For the Christians not under the law but free from its bondages ... No ....if anything it's only ignorance to believe Jesus birthday was on Christmas Day