Please explainHaving sex is a unique case reserved for marriage, that is not like other sins in that way...
God Bless!
I won't have sex with anyone till were married now, cause it's permissible and even encouraged within that framework... But, otherwise it's sin, but not if done in the marriage arrangement...Please explain
I think the heart of 'divination' in the Bible is the seeking guidance outside of the Holy Spirit. He is called 'Holy' because the assumption must be that there are other types of spirits (unclean, unholy, false, deceiving, lying, etc.). The OT High Priest's used the Urim and Thurim (sp?) to seek the Lord's guidance. This was done in the framework of the Temple and the Holy Spirit. The disciples using 'lots', within the framework of Christ-centered prayer and guidance from the Holy Spirit, seems not-unacceptable. Even Solomon mentions, tossing a coin can resolve a dispute even between kings; and in another place, "man casts the lot, but the Lord determines the outcome"Firstly I hope this is in the correct forum.
I have two passages that seem to be in conflict.
The first one forbids a practice and the second one seems to show the apostles practicing what is forbidden.
Can anyone clarify this for me?
Deuteronomy 18:10. "Let no-one be found among you who practices......divination."
Acts 1:26 "Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles"
Well said, I agree. Another argument is that in casting lots, one is not appealing to unseen powers - one is instead simply allowing "random chance" to determine the outcome. And that approach seems eminently reasonable in many situations.I don't think it is divination in the sense commonly thought of. It's about taking the human element out of a choice.
It has never been clear to me; was Joseph truly using his cup for divination, or was he simply play-acting the role of the false-god loving Egyptian that his brothers would have expected? I lean toward the latter.Thanks. I'll check, because I don't think Jonah participated in the time of lots. Here is what has
bugged me in the past and still does as to the time of
Joseph.
Genesis 44:5
“Is not this it in which my lord drinketh, and whereby indeed he divineth? ye have done evil in so doing.”
Genesis 44:15
“And Joseph said unto them, What deed is this that ye have done? wot ye not that such a man as I can certainly divine?”
Right, I agree totally. Fornication (forbidden sex, such as sex outside of marriage) is a sin. Were you saying that this sin is different than other sins, or did I misunderstand you?I won't have sex with anyone till were married now, cause it's permissible and even encouraged within that framework... But, otherwise it's sin, but not if done in the marriage arrangement...
God Bless!
Yes, in that it's not considered a sin inside the marriage arrangement... Not many other sins are known to sinful under these conditions and not under these, in that way, different...Right, I agree totally. Fornication (forbidden sex, such as sex outside of marriage) is a sin. Were you saying that this sin is different than other sins, or did I misunderstand you?
The explanation has to do with "rightly dividing the Word of Truth," 2 Timothy 2:15 KJV. Both of these passages were directed to a single audience, the Jews. The OT reference is obvious in Deuteronomy. In Acts, the Apostles and disciples had not yet understood the "mystery" revealed by the Apostle Paul (Ephesians 3): not works, but Grace for all. Paul sought to clarify that for the Jews in Acts 13:43-44; Acts 14, as "no Jew, no Gentile" (Galatians 3:28) came into focus for everyone.Firstly I hope this is in the correct forum.
I have two passages that seem to be in conflict.
The first one forbids a practice and the second one seems to show the apostles practicing what is forbidden.
Can anyone clarify this for me?
Deuteronomy 18:10. "Let no-one be found among you who practices......divination."
Acts 1:26 "Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles"
I posted a thread on this a while back, but can't find it now...
I forgot what they concluded, if they did...
You notice, God had another choosing in mind, perhaps under the new covenant, Paul...
God Bless!
Firstly I hope this is in the correct forum.
I have two passages that seem to be in conflict.
The first one forbids a practice and the second one seems to show the apostles practicing what is forbidden.
Can anyone clarify this for me?
Deuteronomy 18:10. "Let no-one be found among you who practices......divination."
Acts 1:26 "Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles"
Those who would do that, would not be seeking God's response. It's relying on a pagan demonic response.Firstly I hope this is in the correct forum.
I have two passages that seem to be in conflict.
The first one forbids a practice and the second one seems to show the apostles practicing what is forbidden.
Can anyone clarify this for me?
Deuteronomy 18:10. "Let no-one be found among you who practices......divination."
To answer it, I have to ask this question.Acts 1:26 "Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles"
Firstly I hope this is in the correct forum.
I have two passages that seem to be in conflict.
The first one forbids a practice and the second one seems to show the apostles practicing what is forbidden.
Can anyone clarify this for me?
Deuteronomy 18:10. "Let no-one be found among you who practices......divination."
Acts 1:26 "Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles"
I believe this was directed by YHWH to the people He was training.why they had to draw lots to begin with and not just trust God in the first place who knows. Humanity getting in it's own way as usual.
I believe this was directed by YHWH to the people He was training.
His people,
set apart from the other nations,
and
perhaps to anyone on earth who was seeking Him.
The casting of the lots was more reliable and true
than
people's thoughts, feelings , emotions and so on (which are usually wrong!)
Later, today, it is still few who seek God.
Is there any sin that you can think of that is not simply a perversion of what is good? CS Lewis used to say that the Devil had no creativity-- he couldn't think of a single truly original sin, but simply took what was good, and tempted us to do it in the wrong way, or with the wrong person, or at the wrong time, or in the wrong place. For example, it is perfectly right to take someone else's stuff if you have permission (a gift, borrowing it, buying it) but if you don't have permission it is stealing.Yes, in that it's not considered a sin inside the marriage arrangement... Not many other sins are known to sinful under these conditions and not under these, in that way, different...
I think divination in thus context is seeking know ledge by supernatural means not chanceFirstly I hope this is in the correct forum.
I have two passages that seem to be in conflict.
The first one forbids a practice and the second one seems to show the apostles practicing what is forbidden.
Can anyone clarify this for me?
Deuteronomy 18:10. "Let no-one be found among you who practices......divination."
Acts 1:26 "Then they cast lots, and the lot fell to Matthias; so he was added to the eleven apostles"
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