You're not getting Romans 9:
14 What shall we say then? Is there injustice on God's part? By no means! 15 For he says to Moses, “I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.” 16 So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy. 17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very purpose I have raised you up, that I might show my power in you, and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 So then he has mercy on whomever he wills, and he hardens whomever he wills.
19 You will say to me then, “Why does he still find fault? For who can resist his will?” 20 But who are you, O man, to answer back to God? Will what is molded say to its molder, “Why have you made me like this?” 21 Has the potter no right over the clay, to make out of the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for dishonorable use? 22 What if God, desiring to show his wrath and to make known his power, has endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction, 23 in order to make known the riches of his glory for vessels of mercy, which he has prepared beforehand for glory— 24 even us whom he has called, not from the Jews only but also from the Gentiles?
Romans 9 is not talking about Unconditional Election, but it is talking about how God will save His people in the way that He desires (with His plan of salvation (in getting people initially right with God), which is by faith in the Messiah for both Jews and Gentiles), and not in the way that the Jews (on a national level) desire salvation to be (Which is by their own man made Pharisee religion). Salvation is now gone out to the Gentiles because the Jews rejected their Messiah. Israel was God's chosen people. The Israelites think it is unfair that they are no longer the sole exclusieve gatekeepers to God's way of salvation anymore. For just read verse 24 of the same passage you quoted to me. The Jews rejected their Messiah, and so now salvation went out to the Gentiles.
You said:
That's not the same thing. God made the dog. Ultimately, it's His dog.
I want you to just think about reality and leave God out of it for a moment. Do you honestly think if a dog owner knew that his dog had an uncontrollable pooping problem because it was sick that it is morally okay for the dog owner to kick the poor animal for pooping on his carpets? The poor animal cannot help but to release hot gushing piles of steamy browny goodness on his master's white carpets. It is sick and cannot help itself. But the master does not care. He just kicks the poor animal anyways. He punts the poor dog like a football. The poor animal cannot help it, but the master treats the animal in a cruel way by kicking him. In real life, if this dog owner was reported, the animal humane society, and the police could get then get involved. Why? If the dog owner was innocent, there would be no problem, right? Do you not understand the concept of animal cruelty? Not kicking an animal (with no real purpose) is based on morals and or in having a moral code. The dog owner does not have the right to kick his dog for no good reason. Now, if the dog was about to attack its owner, the owner could kick the dog in self defense, but that is a different situation or scenario. The owner is trying to protect himself from the dog in doing something bad towards him and others. But if the owner does something bad towards the dog (with no real rhyme or reason), that is a different scenario. The dog owner would then be in the wrong.
You said:
On the other hand, if I write a computer program, and I don't like what it does, I have the right to totally erase that computer program.
The Scriptures say,
"God is love" (1 John 4:8).
"God is light, and in him is no darkness at all" (1 John 1:5).
God will one day erase this Earth, and its own wicked inhabitants.
Did God erase the wicked because God made them that way?
Or will God erase the wicked inhabitants because they chose to be wicked? I believe God will erase them because they chose to be evil and not because God made them to be evil. Why? Because God is love, and God is fair, and just in all that He does. There is no darkness in God for Him to make a unjust decision like forcing a certain group of people to be evil beyond their own capacity.
You said:
Please stop talking down to people. It comes across sounding incredibly arrogant.
Most people I have talked with understand the basic concept of morality when I explain it to them. The fact that I am encouraging you to "think" is a mild suggestion to think about such a concept that should be clear to see for all. It was not meant to be a command, or statement made that I know all things and neither was it a statement made that I am superior to anyone. It was simply a friendly suggestion.
You said:
Justice? You want justice? Justice is that everybody goes to Hell.
But if God is loving, merciful, and He provided a way of escape for mankind, would He truly allow fair justice to happen for all?
Is it not in God's very nature to love, forgive, and save others if they are willing to cooperate with Him?
Sure, we all broke God's laws, and we deserve punishment, but yet on the other hand, God made a way escape through His Son Jesus Christ. "For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved." (John 3:17).
For God means.... "salvation."
"In God
is my salvation and my glory: the rock of my strength,
and my refuge,
is in God." (Psalms 62:7).
Also, why will God have a judgment for men if it was God who decides alone who is good and who is bad? It makes no sense.
That would be like trying to have a court trial for a pack of wolves who attacked a bunch of people because they were hungry. Such a trial would not make any sense because the wolves are only doing what they know on instinct. If you tried to place wolves into a court system, they would not understand what the judge or prosecutor would be saying unto them. Even if for the sake of argument there was a wolf translator present, the wolves would simply say that they were hungry and wanted to eat, and they were not attacking for no real good reason. The wolves were only doing what they knew to do on instinct. But imagine it. The judge throws down the hammer at the wolves and he says,
"You stupid wolves. You should not eat people even though you cannot help it, but that does not matter. I simply don't' care. I sentence you wolves to life imprisonment and cruel dog torture for something that is beyond your control." The wolf translator tells the wolves what the judge had said.
The wolves are dumbfounded and speechless (i.e. they did not bark).
