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Is Boxing a Sin? What Does the Bible Say?

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BrightCandle

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MikeMcK said:
Um...OK.
Since boxing is not murder, the commandment against murder cannot be violated.
Scores? Out of the hundreds of thousands of fights in the modern era of boxing, I can think of four, () two of them by the same man, and neither of these were murder.
Really? In the last twenty years, how many men have died in the ring?

Check out the Web site below is has a very long list of boxers who have died as a result of blows received in the ring.

Premediatated manslaughter, a variation of murder, would seem to decribe the deaths of boxers. After you read the hundreds who have died from boxing, I hope that you will change your view regarding this brutal and barbaric sport. Satan is behind this industry you can be sure of that.

http://ejmas.com/jcs/jcsart_svinth_b_0700.htm
 
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BrightCandle said:
Premediatated manslaughter, a variation of murder, would seem to decribe the deaths of boxers.

And much like your claim that an act not involving murder somehow violates the commandment not to murder, nor is this pre-meditated or manslaughter.

I understand that throwing around legal jargon makes you feel smarter, but when you use it without knowing what you're talking about, it only makes you look...well, not smarter.

After you read the hundreds who have died from boxing, I hope that you will change your view regarding this brutal and barbaric sport.

First of all, no, it doesn't, anymore than Curtis Williams' death changes my view about football or J.D. McDuffie's death changes my mind about auto racing.

There are a couple of problems I have with the list.

The first is that only a small fraction of the fights were sanctioned, with many of them being back room, indepentdant affairs. What rules were used? Were the officials licensed?

The second is that several of them were not boxing matches but were, in fact, "toughman" competitions.

The third is that many of the boxers on the list, in fact, the majority of boxers on the list, did not die in the ring, but later, in incidences where a head injury from boxing was only one factor.

The fourth is that the vast, vast majority of these fights are not even from the modern era.

No one is arguing that men do not die in boxing. The great Max Baer killed not one, but two men in the ring.

But the fact remains, that all sports, as are many real life occupations, are dangerous.

I can make lists of all of the deaths in other sports, to, as well as deaths to police officers and firefighters (which, statistically speaking, is much more dangerous) but they would suffer from the same logical fallacies that your list does.
 
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MikeMcK said:
And much like your claim that an act not involving murder somehow violates the commandment not to murder, nor is this pre-meditated or manslaughter.

I understand that throwing around legal jargon makes you feel smarter, but when you use it without knowing what you're talking about, it only makes you look...well, not smarter.



First of all, no, it doesn't, anymore than Curtis Williams' death changes my view about football or J.D. McDuffie's death changes my mind about auto racing.

There are a couple of problems I have with the list.

The first is that only a small fraction of the fights were sanctioned, with many of them being back room, indepentdant affairs. What rules were used? Were the officials licensed?

The second is that several of them were not boxing matches but were, in fact, "toughman" competitions.

The third is that many of the boxers on the list, in fact, the majority of boxers on the list, did not die in the ring, but later, in incidences where a head injury from boxing was only one factor.

The fourth is that the vast, vast majority of these fights are not even from the modern era.

No one is arguing that men do not die in boxing. The great Max Baer killed not one, but two men in the ring.

But the fact remains, that all sports, as are many real life occupations, are dangerous.

I can make lists of all of the deaths in other sports, to, as well as deaths to police officers and firefighters (which, statistically speaking, is much more dangerous) but they would suffer from the same logical fallacies that your list does.

MikeMcK,

You have closed your "eyes" to the truth when confronted with the overwhelming evidence regarding the hundreds of sensless deaths of boxers in the recorded history of the sport. Police officers are ministers of justice, they are not needllessly putting life on the line for sport! There is a big difference between dying in the line of duty while fulfilling a noble calling, as opposed to dying while engaging in a barbaric sport! Can you really see Jesus going into the ring and knocking somebody out? I don't think so!
 
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BrightCandle said:
MikeMcK,

You have closed your "eyes" to the truth ... Can you really see Jesus going into the ring and knocking somebody out? I don't think so!

Quite simply... Yes! Yes I can--figuratively that is. He's-a-gonna-take-care-of Satan!
 
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Didn't we have "wrestling" in the Old Testament?

Genesis 32:24 (KJV)
And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.

Genesis 32:24 (NIV)
So Jacob was left alone, and a man wrestled with him till daybreak.
 
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Well, in the Third Lateran Council (1179) it was decreed:
Following the footsteps of our predecessors of happy memory, popes Innocent and Eugenius, we forbid those abominable jousts and fairs, which are commonly called tournaments, in which knights come together by agreement and rashly engage in showing off their physical prowess and daring, and which often result in human deaths and danger to souls. If any of them dies on these occasions, although forgiveness is not to be denied him when he requests it, he is to be deprived of a church burial.

Supposing boxing and jousting are similar?
 
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kw5kw said:
Quite simply... Yes! Yes I can--figuratively that is. He's-a-gonna-take-care-of Satan!


Satan and all of his followers, angelic and human are going to be thrown into the Lake of Fire, not into a boxing ring with Jesus!
 
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BrightCandle said:
You have closed your "eyes" to the truth when confronted with the overwhelming evidence regarding the hundreds of sensless deaths of boxers in the recorded history of the sport.

No, I haven't closed my eyes. Once again, you're benig disingenuous. In fact, I have acknowledged many times for you now that men have died in the ring.

Police officers are ministers of justice, they are not needllessly putting life on the line for sport!

I see. So then, because they're "ministers of justice", their deaths aren't such a big deal to you?

Can you really see Jesus going into the ring and knocking somebody out? I don't think so!

I can't see Jesus playing a banjo, either, but that doesn't make bluegrass music a bad thing.

Can I see Jesus knocking somebody out in a ring? No, but I do see Him vanquishing His enemies with a sword and an army so, clearly, Jesus is not unaccustomed to violence.
 
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