Is Blasphemy Unforgivable (I Need Help part 2)

[shadesoflight62]

Is it?

Because...

When I was in 6th , 7th, ect. grade.... (4-5 years ago)

You know how some kids have their own "fantasy worlds"....

Well i had one

it was set in this other place... i guess it was a part of heaven.
there was this man i was friends with, named Kasseem.
he had a wife, celena.
god was there. i would have "conversations" with him, i suppose.
Basically, during all of the fantasies, I would go to battles against the devil.
in hell. saving people. stopping heaven from being destroyed.
like, shooting, stabbing, killing battles.
and i would always prevail against him. they were all like bad disney movies.
and i believed that these things were real.
and i basically believed that i was the next jesus.

and then for years after, i would not "go into" this world.
and assumed that these were all just fantasies from when i was a kid who watched too much tv and played too many violent videogames.
and nothing else.

and around last november, a kid i knew died in a housefire
and all of this death paranoia set in

i then sorta started having these "fantasies" again.
and every night almost, i would be scared witless, waiting for death to come.

then, last wednesday morning, i had the "fantasy" i explained
in the "I Need Help" thread of the forum.'

and then I learned that blasphemy was an unforgivable sin.


with this knowledge, and that past idea that my soul is lost forever, i don't know what to do.

somebody help me.

i'm on the verge of tears and going crazy.

If i had it to do all over again, i would take it all back. all the blasphemy, the lusting, everything i've ever done wrong. I'm sorry, god. please forgive me. please. Please. please. Please.

I really don't want to suffer forever. I was a stupid kid back then. I'd take everything back if i could. I'm no messiah. Please. Somebody help.

I really don't want to go to hell. or die soon.

I pray every single day. and it calms me down sometimes,

but the fear always sets in again.

always

 

[shadesoflight62]

and I'm sorry for all this. i need somewhere to vent

 

[shadesoflight62]

and I'm sorry for all this. i need somewhere to vent

Oh lord, son of god
have mercy on me,
a sinner,
amen.

 

[theseed]

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit is considered the unforgivable sin, but It is thought that it can not be done anymore. The Pharisees saw the Holy Spirit working and denied the miracles and said they were of Satan, when they knew that the miracles were miracles that came from God such has healing lepors. Now, think about this, Peter cursed and said he did not know Jesus 3 times, Paul stoned Stephen because he was professing Christ. But, these are Apostles whose names will be on the foundation of the New Jerusalem. These people blasphemed God, but were forgiven. In first John 1.9, it says that if we confess our sin, then he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from all unrightousness. Blaspheming the Holy Spirit is bascially rejecting God, and I've not seen you do that.



Revelation 21:14
The wall of the city had twelve foundations, and on them were the names of the twelve apostles of the Lamb.

 

[seebs]

It is generally agreed that, if you had done it, you wouldn't be worried.

There is a common mental disorder that results in being very afraid of exactly this; you might want to see a counselor to see if it's just your brain acting up.

 

[shadesoflight62]

I hope that's the problem. I really do.

 

[HeatherJay]

Jesus himself said that blasphemy against Himself or against God was forgivable...but blasphemy against the Holy Spirit was not. Like seebs said, if you HAD committed this sin, you wouldn't be concerned that you had. It's not a sin, I don't believe, that you can commit accidentally. And those who did commit it, most likely they had no desire to even seek forgiveness.

You seem so sincere in your posts. If you haven't already, Maybe you should seek some counselling about the day dreams and fantasies that you have. No one should have to feel they're all alone when facing difficulties and worries like the ones you've expressed. Just know that God is always with you...and if you feel these dreams are more than you can handle, pray that God take them out of your life.

Love, Heather

 

[Angeldove97]

As for you referring to the blasphemy part, that only counted during the time that Jesus was alive on earth as a human and the people who say things against Him and the Holy Spirit. We all have our fantasies and maybe it was stress that triggered the dreams again. I kinda have dreams like this too, but they're different in many ways. Just know that God loves you, you can fight this, God is willing to forgive you of your sins, and we're all praying for you!!!! Love, Angel

 

[Angeldove97]

Yea I was trying to say what theseed said

 

[J-rock]

Hey bud~
don't get too worried. I myself worried at one time about the unforgivable sin. Keep your head up. If your heart is for God, you can't commit the sin. I am a Biblical Studies major and my specialzation is the the canonical gospels. So your question is right in my field of study. Okay, I want to sound like a friend and not a schollar. So here it goes. what Mark 2:29 is talking about is a complete rejection of the holy spririt by attributting the work of Jesus to that of satan. Biblical Schoolars all conclude that blasaphmey of the holy spirit is a complete rejection of the working powers of the holy spirit and even opposition to the spirit. So it can still be done by those who act in the same way that the pharisees did and continued to reject the holy spirit. If one continues to reject the work of the holy spirit, they are disqualified as a christian because they are not holding to the essential beliefs. In another words it is unforgivable because the person commiting this is rejecting the power that can forgives and attributing the works of Jesus to satan. Also Jesus knows your heart and knows that you deeply desire to be found in his love. So as long as you believe in Jesus you have nothing to worry about. Many people have had some type of fantasy. You obviosly love Jesus very much. So don't be lead astray by believing you are lsot. Just keep following Jesus and walking in his forgivness every day. So take heart my friend and realize that nothing can keep you from the love of Jesus Christ ever. As long as you confess he is Lord you are forgiven. You need to walk in this forgivness and realize that nothing can keep you from his love!
That also means forgiving yourself and moving on. It is the devil that wants to remind you of your mistakes. But our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ has seperated our sins as far as the east is from the west. Walk in his forgiveness and never look back!

-Peace of Christ be to you!
Jason

 

[Timo]

what Mark 2:29 is talking about is a complete rejection of the holy spririt by attributting the work of Jesus to that of satan. Biblical Schoolars all conclude that blasaphmey of the holy spirit is a complete rejection of the working powers of the holy spirit and even opposition to the spirit.

Does this mean that blaspheming against Holy Spirit is basically not being a Christian if you have heard about Jesus (Matthew 12:31, Mark 3:29)? This is something I have been wondering about recently.

Many thanks,
Timo

 

[Rafael]

You can't let these attacks control your fears this way. Please find some strong Christian brothers and sisters to pray with. Have them lay hands on you and pray. If you are so weakened by this kind of attack then you may well need the good strong council and friendship we all need with other people in the body of Christ that have specific gifts to minister to you. We all need each other and I urge others here to pray for you with me, that you will be delivered and set on the right path; and that you find strong fellowship to help you along the way.

 

[shadesoflight62]

I go to church most every sunday.
I pray to god most every day.
And I'm starting to go to confession every few weeks.
I've even started going to phychiatrist and taking perscription clonopan from him.
I talk to my parents about these things, and they're telling me all of these thoughts are crazy, and just a chemical imbalance, and that I won't die anytime soon.
But things haven't been seeming to get that much better.
I thank you all for your loving words of reassurance that I am actually okay, and for your kindness and patience.
It is really appreciated.
But these thoughts still haunt me, all the time.
Sometimes, I'll go through these stints of total happiness,
feeling wonderful, and blessed, and calm
and hours later, I'm back to my scared/paranoid/depressed/anxious self, with thoughts about how maybe god doesn't care, or hear me
and these song lyrics keep going in my head, almost nonstop:

I'm going under,
lost
I'm falling forever

Again, I'm sorry for all of this. I really, truely am.


--Shades.

oh lord,
son of god
have mercy on me, a sinner​

 

[Timo]

shadesoflight, you really don't need to apologise to anyone here. There is no shame in asking people for help or advice. Facing up to your fears is a good thing to do and the steps you are taking sound very sensible to me. Also, I think that any prescription that the doctor gives you is going to take a while to take effect properly.

I really hope things work out for you.

 

[J-rock]

Does this mean that blaspheming against Holy Spirit is basically not being a Christian if you have heard about Jesus (Matthew 12:31, Mark 3:29)? This is something I have been wondering about recently.

Many thanks,
Timo

Some people interprate it that way saying those who reject God to the day they die commit this. I am not totally sure. It is a difficult passage to deal with, because this is the one time Jesus says anything is unforgivable. What I know about the text is the religous leaders had a habbit of telling Jesus he was the one commiting blasphamey and wroking by the devil. In Israelite Religion, the pharisees interprated blasphame as an unofrigvable sin. I.E. Saying you are god or "one with God." So what to make out of this verse? Jesus said if you willfully accuse Jesus of being a devil that you are enternally condemned. Thjat is really all the text says. SOme people like to say that regecting God for a lifestime fits under this category. For that there is no textual evidence. Over time Jesus got tired of continously hearing the pharisees reject Him and accuse him of being the devil. Jesus responded in saying that those who accuse of him of being satan incarnate are never forgiven. In the context of who Jesus was speaking to had opposed him and rejected him as a false prophet many times and he responded in saying that they were the ones taht would not be forgiven. Basically if you reject Jesus and say he is a devil as a life style is when this is unforivable. I hope that explains it. It is a very difficult passage for many people.

 

[KGirl]

Ok, did he have dreams or day dreams whatnot that are different then just the ones of him being Jesus? Is that the only thing he thinks is making him possibly not be forgiven? I'm confused. What did he do?

 

[shadesoflight62]

i guess you can call em daydreams

i was basically the leader of this army in heaven
fighting this war against an army in hell
and we'd.... stop heaven from being destroyed.
i actually believed that this was all real... and that i was like jesus
this was around when i was in grade 6 and 7
i also had the same anxiety i have now

anywho

i started taking this medication for the scaredness
and the fantasies stopped for about a few years
and once i was feeling better
i got off the meds

then recently,
anxiety set in again,
and i started having these daydreams again

which led to the fantasy i explained earlier about sacraficing my soul
i thought/still kinda think that it was real
and that my soul was forever lost in hell..

so thats what happened...

i'm taking the meds again, and feeling slightly better,

but still cant help but wonder wheather these were real or not....

 

[HomeBound]

shadesoflight62

The fact is, for any of us to know for certain these aren't real, is impossible. Sometimes fact is stranger than fiction.

 

[shadesoflight62]

hmmmmm

i really wish that i knew for certain.
i woke up this morning nearly in tears, nervous
i feel allmost like god has given up hope on me
though i still have faith in him
or i try to
i feel like i'm being punished.
maybe i am lost forever
that songs going through my head again.

 

[Timo]

i feel allmost like god has given up hope on me
though i still have faith in him
or i try to

I don't think that God will give up hope in you; even if you were to lose faith in him.