Is Bernie Sanders a marxist ?

[Mountainmanbob]

Bernie Sanders isn't a ‘democratic socialist’ — he's an all-out Marxist

The senator’s growing appeal ought to be disconcerting to us all, because Sanders is not the nice, Nordic-style “democratic socialist” he claims to be. At his core, Sanders is almost certainly an all-out Marxist.

• While people such as my grandfather were languishing as political prisoners in Cuba, Sanders said that he was so “excited” about the island’s communist revolution that watching JFK get tough on Fidel Castro made him want to “puke.”

• In 1980, as most prominent democratic socialists criticized Iran’s taking of American hostages, Sanders joined a Trotskyist revolutionary party that defended the Islamic regime’s actions.

• When the United States was containing communism in Central America, Sanders flew to Nicaragua to lend credibility to the Sandinistas

• The 78-year-old presidential candidate even honeymooned in the Soviet Union and came back full of praise for it. Some may not grasp how bizarre this was during the Cold War, but, at the time, it was almost unheard of to do such a thing.

• Despite his lifelong fascination with communism, not once did Sanders have the decency to meet Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, a renowned Soviet dissident who lived in Vermont.

Some have tried tricking voters into believing that Sanders is the American version of Nordic-style socialist democrats. This isn’t true.

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Marco Rubio sounds warning about Bernie Sanders' policies: 'Marxism always leads to authoritarianism'

Rubio said on "Hannity" that Sanders has "gotten away with -- for years -- saying that he's a socialist. He's actually not a socialist, he's a Marxist ... and Marxism is based on the belief that no person has any value as an individual. Your value is that you're a member of a class. Second, Marxism is based on the belief that an employer and an employee, a worker and an owner, can't both help each other and both be better off."

They like to compare themselves to Nordic countries," the senator said. "Number one, Nordic countries are actually not socialist. I used to actually buy into that, and [if] you look at it carefully, it's not true. They have free enterprise ... they don't even have a minimum wage. In Sweden, they have universal school choice for everybody. So, they have a big welfare state and they have high taxes, but they are not socialist countries."

 

[High Fidelity]

I mean, this was all a very long time ago.

Socialism in the idealistic sense is brilliant. In the realistic sense, like Capitalism, in its absolute form it is not good which is why no country has either Socialism, Communism or Capitalism (Not even America!) in their absolute forms or anything close.

Sanders isn't even close to Marxist.

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Rubio (parents from Cuba) lays out the facts here.
M-Bob

 

[Norbert L]

Is there any news about what Bernie thinks about Kyle Jurek, one of his campaign members?

Kyle Jurek - Bio, News, Photos - Washington Times

 

[Mountainmanbob]

Is there any news about what Bernie thinks about Kyle Jurek, one of his campaign members?
Kyle Jurek - Bio, News, Photos - Washington Times

Bernie better drop that guy quick.
Might show where some are coming from?
They know 2020 has slipped away from them.
Remind them -- life will go on
and for more than the green 12 expected years.
M-Bob

 

[Albion]

...and prior to him being elected to Congress, Bernie ran as a candidate of the Socialist Workers Party, a hard-left Marxist party.

 

[jgarden]

Bernie Sanders isn't a ‘democratic socialist’ — he's an all-out Marxist

The senator’s growing appeal ought to be disconcerting to us all, because Sanders is not the nice, Nordic-style “democratic socialist” he claims to be. At his core, Sanders is almost certainly an all-out Marxist.

• While people such as my grandfather were languishing as political prisoners in Cuba, Sanders said that he was so “excited” about the island’s communist revolution that watching JFK get tough on Fidel Castro made him want to “puke.”

• In 1980, as most prominent democratic socialists criticized Iran’s taking of American hostages, Sanders joined a Trotskyist revolutionary party that defended the Islamic regime’s actions.

• When the United States was containing communism in Central America, Sanders flew to Nicaragua to lend credibility to the Sandinistas

• The 78-year-old presidential candidate even honeymooned in the Soviet Union and came back full of praise for it. Some may not grasp how bizarre this was during the Cold War, but, at the time, it was almost unheard of to do such a thing.

• Despite his lifelong fascination with communism, not once did Sanders have the decency to meet Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, a renowned Soviet dissident who lived in Vermont.

Some have tried tricking voters into believing that Sanders is the American version of Nordic-style socialist democrats. This isn’t true.

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Marco Rubio sounds warning about Bernie Sanders' policies: 'Marxism always leads to authoritarianism'

Rubio said on "Hannity" that Sanders has "gotten away with -- for years -- saying that he's a socialist. He's actually not a socialist, he's a Marxist ... and Marxism is based on the belief that no person has any value as an individual. Your value is that you're a member of a class. Second, Marxism is based on the belief that an employer and an employee, a worker and an owner, can't both help each other and both be better off."

They like to compare themselves to Nordic countries," the senator said. "Number one, Nordic countries are actually not socialist. I used to actually buy into that, and [if] you look at it carefully, it's not true. They have free enterprise ... they don't even have a minimum wage. In Sweden, they have universal school choice for everybody. So, they have a big welfare state and they have high taxes, but they are not socialist countries."

The Republicans had nothing but praise for Fidel's predecessor, Fulgencio Batista, the US supported dictator who fled Cuba with a $1 trillion (1959 dollars) that he embezzled from the Cuban people - where the average wage was $6 a day!

If "Mountainmanbob" was truly concerned about an American politician embracing Marxism and Marxists, is there any question as to how the Republicans would respond, especially during an election year, if they possessed a mountain of photos of Sanders "bonding" with Kim Jong-un?

 

[hedrick]

Mostly Bernie is a democratic socialist. His policy proposals are not to replace free enterprise, except in the area of health care, which is far from a traditional competitive market already.

His attacks on rich do at times make one think of Marxist rhetoric. But his substance isn't really Marxist. You can be concerned about growing inequality without being a Marxist.

Unfortunately he's said just enough stupid things for it to be a convincing smear.

 

[jgarden]

Mostly Bernie is a democratic socialist. His policy proposals are not to replace free enterprise, except in the area of health care, which is far from a traditional competitive market already.

His attacks on rich do at times make one think of Marxist rhetoric. But his substance isn't really Marxist. You can be concerned about growing inequality without being a Marxist.

Unfortunately he's said just enough stupid things for it to be a convincing smear.

US Provides Military Assistance to 73 Percent of World’s Dictatorships
- September 23, 2017

..... According to Freedom House’s rating system of political rights around the world, there were 49 nations in the world, as of 2015, that can be fairly categorized as “dictatorships.” As of fiscal year 2015, the last year for which we have publicly available data, the federal government of the United States had been providing military assistance to 36 of them, courtesy of your tax dollars. The United States currently supports over 73 percent of the world’s dictatorships!

US Provides Military Assistance to 73 Percent of World's Dictatorships
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The Republicans and the healthcare industry have had every opportunity to introduce a comprehensive, affordable, private medical system - where over 50% of the personal bankruptcies in America will no longer be health related!

The fact that American workers have not experienced a substantial wage increase in over 40 years should be enough to convince them that the "American Dream" is just that, a dream, heavily biased in favor of the 1%!

 

[Albion]

The Republicans had nothing but praise for Fidel's predecessor, Fulgencio Batista, the US supported dictator who fled Cuba with a $1 trillion (1959 dollars) that he embezzled from the Cuban people - where the average wage was $6 a day!

That's not so, but even if it were, how does that clarify the matter of Bernie Sanders' support for Marxist dictatorships??

 

[jgarden]

That's not so, but even if it were, how does that clarify the matter of Bernie Sanders' support for Marxist dictatorships??

With Donald Trump was in the White House, the Republicans also had majorities in both Houses of Congress from January 2017 to January 2019 - even then the GOP couldn't convince all its own members in the Senate that their private healthcare bill was superior to Obamacare, the healthcare system it was designed to replace!

America has a long history of supporting dictatorships whose human rights records were far worse than Castro's Cuba - apparently "right wing" dictatorships are worthy of praise and its only the "left wing" dictatorships that should be condemned!

 

[Cimorene]

No.

 

[jgarden]

That's not so, but even if it were, how does that clarify the matter of Bernie Sanders' support for Marxist dictatorships??

Sanders hasn't given Castro's Cuba a "blank check," he's merely pointing out that its hypocritical for ideological reasons to issue a blanket condemnation on "left-wing" regimes while providing :right wing" dictatorships with a free pass - which includes large amounts of American foreign aid that keeps them in power!

If it had been Cuba, instead of Saudi Arabia, that lured a correspondent form the US press into their embassy for the express purpose of "silencing" him and surgically dicing up his body to facilitate his removal, conservative Americans would have gone ballistic!

 

[The Barbarian]

They like to compare themselves to Nordic countries," the senator said. "Number one, Nordic countries are actually not socialist. I used to actually buy into that, and [if] you look at it carefully, it's not true. They have free enterprise ... they don't even have a minimum wage. In Sweden, they have universal school choice for everybody. So, they have a big welfare state and they have high taxes, but they are not socialist countries."

And yet, Sanders points to them as good models for the U.S.

And that answers your question, doesn't it?

 

[Albion]

With Donald Trump was in the White House, the Republicans also had majorities in both Houses of Congress from January 2017 to January 2019 - even then the GOP couldn't convince all its own members in the Senate that their private healthcare bill was superior to Obamacare, the healthcare system it was designed to replace!

So again, how does this observation clarify anything about Bernie Sanders' support for Marxist dictatorships?

 

[summerville]

Bernie Sanders isn't a ‘democratic socialist’ — he's an all-out Marxist

The senator’s growing appeal ought to be disconcerting to us all, because Sanders is not the nice, Nordic-style “democratic socialist” he claims to be. At his core, Sanders is almost certainly an all-out Marxist.

• While people such as my grandfather were languishing as political prisoners in Cuba, Sanders said that he was so “excited” about the island’s communist revolution that watching JFK get tough on Fidel Castro made him want to “puke.”

• In 1980, as most prominent democratic socialists criticized Iran’s taking of American hostages, Sanders joined a Trotskyist revolutionary party that defended the Islamic regime’s actions.

• When the United States was containing communism in Central America, Sanders flew to Nicaragua to lend credibility to the Sandinistas

• The 78-year-old presidential candidate even honeymooned in the Soviet Union and came back full of praise for it. Some may not grasp how bizarre this was during the Cold War, but, at the time, it was almost unheard of to do such a thing.

• Despite his lifelong fascination with communism, not once did Sanders have the decency to meet Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, a renowned Soviet dissident who lived in Vermont.

Some have tried tricking voters into believing that Sanders is the American version of Nordic-style socialist democrats. This isn’t true.

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Marco Rubio sounds warning about Bernie Sanders' policies: 'Marxism always leads to authoritarianism'

Rubio said on "Hannity" that Sanders has "gotten away with -- for years -- saying that he's a socialist. He's actually not a socialist, he's a Marxist ... and Marxism is based on the belief that no person has any value as an individual. Your value is that you're a member of a class. Second, Marxism is based on the belief that an employer and an employee, a worker and an owner, can't both help each other and both be better off."

They like to compare themselves to Nordic countries," the senator said. "Number one, Nordic countries are actually not socialist. I used to actually buy into that, and [if] you look at it carefully, it's not true. They have free enterprise ... they don't even have a minimum wage. In Sweden, they have universal school choice for everybody. So, they have a big welfare state and they have high taxes, but they are not socialist countries."

US policy towards Cuba was stupid from the get go. Esso used to have a refinery there when I was a kid.

We drove Cuba into the arms of the Soviets because of the US Sugar Beet lobby.