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Friends that ask you how you're doing, but really don't care?

Friends who say "Anytime you want to talk let me know and I'll be there for you! Seriously, I mean it!" And then you tell them it's time to talk and they listen for about 5 minutes and then try the good ol' 30 second pep-talk and when it doesn't work they run for the hills.

I mean God bless them for wanting to try, but don't they have any clue what they're getting into when they make that kind of an offer?

Or am I the only one who has friends like that?
 

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I have friends who have offered to listen, but I don't take them up on their offers simply bc I am afraid that that is what will happen. Yes indeed, God bless them for offering and being willing, but I don't think that they know what they are getting into. I hate talking to people about my issues unless I know that they will listen, which is why I am so quiet about "stuff" so often, even around the friends that I know will care.

What is "worse" is when people that are just your acquaintances find out something about you (e.g., that I am the founder and head of the ED support group here on campus) and offer to listen if you need to talk, yet have absolutely no clue what it's like being sick and also don't even know you that well! (Although - to be fair - there are some that do understand and offer to talk - I just don't take them up on it.)

I hope I'm not waffling too much and am making some sense.

But yes, :hug: for you for feeling that way, and I'm glad that you found this board where you can talk about stuff and have people listen and understand.
 
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I have people who have told me they would be there for me and when I did open up and share with them it was just too much for them and the friendship dissolved. I have had that happen more times than I can count.

However, I do have a dear friend here in Alaska named Wendy. We have been friends for 13 years. We get together about every two or three months and go out for lunch or coffee and we totally release every thing to each other. She knows every thing there is to know about me. The good, the bad and the ugly and she accepts me just as I am, warts and all. And I have listened to every thought or complaint she has had and I have done nothing else, but listen. And at the end of every get together we have we always, always pray for each other no matter where we are at. She has been there through the best of times and also through the nightmares. She is wonderful and I am actually going to have lunch with her tomorrow. I am thinking of getting her a present (since I am leaving), but haven't decided on what yet. I want to honor her for the woman she is and has been to me over the last decade.

I know I have burnt bridges in the past with people, but with people like Wendy in my life I realize I did not need the other people to begin with.
 
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In a way it's good to see I'm not alone in my thoughts on the matter. I have to say Alaska, I seriously envy you having a friend like that. I don't know, maybe I have one as well, but I'd be scared to test that out to any great degree knowing how they react at this point.

Soulwings, yes it is good to have found this forum to talk, but in all honesty I don't think it is a valid replacement for actual human contact. Though it is certainly a blessing.

I don't know, maybe I just expect too much out of people but I can only take the "You just need to cheer up!" line so many times before I'm fit to puke. Yes I do need to cheer up, DUH! I'm well aware that I need to cheer up!

Or worse yet when I'm in my manic state and I'm hearing "You need to calm down man!" What?!? Weren't you the same guy who told me to cheer up?!?!

Oh well I'm just rambling on at this point. I was seriously wondering if anyone else came across the same problems I do in regards to other people offering to listen. I guess I'm not as unique as I thought, lol!
 
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Alaskamomma- You are definitely blessed with that friendship. I'm so glad that you have someone like that, and even though you are leaving, I hope that you will manage to stay in touch. :hug:

Bsd- No, CF isn't a valid replacement for real human contact, but it is a good place to talk about some things. It actually is where I "talk" the most with people, though, mostly in summer but also in the schoolyear, even when I am around more people in real life. Good bc it has so many people with different backgrounds that you probably wouldn't run into in your day-to-day life otherwise. :)

What can I say, I love CF... :sorry: :p (and am somewhat of a reticent person in real life, so I don't communicate with a very varied group of people; I have my "safe" group that I talk with, and the rest are out there and I don't really spend any time with them)
 
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It takes a lot of time to build up a relationship with a friend intimite enough to deal with the irrational emotion turmoil this disease puts you through. However the loneliness is often so painful I have in the past oversteped the bounds and gush to people who can't really deal with it. Just remember not to blame other people for this - they are good people, they just feel helpless to help you and can't handle the burden of it.
 
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QUOTE FROM BSD: "I don't know, maybe I just expect too much out of people but I can only take the "You just need to cheer up!" line so many times before I'm fit to puke. Yes I do need to cheer up, DUH! I'm well aware that I need to cheer up!

Or worse yet when I'm in my manic state and I'm hearing "You need to calm down man!" What?!? Weren't you the same guy who told me to cheer up?!?!"


Lol, bsd. How true.
 
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Have any of you all ever had a wonderful friend who first sought you, who promised repeatedly that they would stay with you and never leave you, never forsake you, never abandon you; who continually reassured you they knew the difference between the real you and your inhabitants (or for you folks with mental illness issues, let's say, so we can relate, your sickness?); who listened to you for hours when you bes in distress, who cried with you, prayed with you, chiseled you out of strange places your demons embedded you, loved you incredibly beyond your wildest dreams even better than a "lover" could (it thinks here of the love of David and Jonathan for example)................ whom you adored more than any other person on the face of the earth .............

..........BUT who, one day when they did something that really hurt you deeply, absolutely refused to even listen to you about it, refused to hear, refused to let you share how that made you feel, and instead started twisting everything around to make it seem that you had hurt them by even just telling them that; and worse, that all you ever did bes "abuse" them or beat them up emotionally (not true), that you never appreciated anything they did for you (so severely not true it beggars description), that they bes sick of the "sick games" you play (huh???) presumably to manipulate them, and that they want you to go away and find someone else???

If so, how did you cope? Assuming anyone here has ever had that happen, because frankly, moriah does not think it will survive. Worse, and more to the point, it simply does not want to. It has lost all will to live, and for weeks it has not stopped crying, day and night, even at work when no one bes looking in the day; at night when no one can hear it really lets it out with wailing and howling, screaming in torment like the damned. It has no relief and though other friends have tried to console it and it has even sought itself in various ways to make the pain stop it cannot be consoled and it cannot help itself and the pain will not stop. It keeps getting WORSE as time goes on, not better, and for some reason They won't givesy memory wipe like They did last autumn when something similar (though not as dire -- that person merely disappeared without a trace or an explanation) happened, so it finds no relief nor release anywhere. Some ppls say crying it out helps but it doesn't. It feels hopeless and lost and devastated at levels it did not even know before existed. When it has a brief coherent moment (like now) it tries to find answers, but then the excruciating torture of all this swallows it whole again and it returns to wandering this desolate waste weeping and howling in pain and it fears the worst for the ultimate outcome to all this.... the VERY worst, things forbidden to speak here.
 
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Have any of you all ever had a wonderful friend who first sought you, who promised repeatedly that they would stay with you and never leave you, never forsake you, never abandon you; who continually reassured you they knew the difference between the real you and your inhabitants (or for you folks with mental illness issues, let's say, so we can relate, your sickness?); who listened to you for hours when you bes in distress, who cried with you, prayed with you, chiseled you out of strange places your demons embedded you, loved you incredibly beyond your wildest dreams even better than a "lover" could (it thinks here of the love of David and Jonathan for example)................ whom you adored more than any other person on the face of the earth .............

..........BUT who, one day when they did something that really hurt you deeply, absolutely refused to even listen to you about it, refused to hear, refused to let you share how that made you feel, and instead started twisting everything around to make it seem that you had hurt them by even just telling them that; and worse, that all you ever did bes "abuse" them or beat them up emotionally (not true), that you never appreciated anything they did for you (so severely not true it beggars description), that they bes sick of the "sick games" you play (huh???) presumably to manipulate them, and that they want you to go away and find someone else???

If so, how did you cope? Assuming anyone here has ever had that happen, because frankly, moriah does not think it will survive. Worse, and more to the point, it simply does not want to. It has lost all will to live, and for weeks it has not stopped crying, day and night, even at work when no one bes looking in the day; at night when no one can hear it really lets it out with wailing and howling, screaming in torment like the damned. It has no relief and though other friends have tried to console it and it has even sought itself in various ways to make the pain stop it cannot be consoled and it cannot help itself and the pain will not stop. It keeps getting WORSE as time goes on, not better, and for some reason They won't givesy memory wipe like They did last autumn when something similar (though not as dire -- that person merely disappeared without a trace or an explanation) happened, so it finds no relief nor release anywhere. Some ppls say crying it out helps but it doesn't. It feels hopeless and lost and devastated at levels it did not even know before existed. When it has a brief coherent moment (like now) it tries to find answers, but then the excruciating torture of all this swallows it whole again and it returns to wandering this desolate waste weeping and howling in pain and it fears the worst for the ultimate outcome to all this.... the VERY worst, things forbidden to speak here.

I had a childhood friend (best friends for 20 yrs.). She was more like a sister than a friend. She just vanished on me. She simply said she couldn't handle seeing me depressed. Mind you, my bp disorder isn't the type that makes me angry/violent or dangerous so she couldn't use that as an excuse. I just hibernate and crawl into a hole sort of speak. I feel like she no longer had any use for me or something since i played the role of "counselor" for her when i was well. I don't really have any friends now. My only friend is my boyfriend who is also bp.
Right now i'm in a depression and have been for almost 2 months so i'm just numb. If i think about my condition, i just start crying and i'm just tired of crying.
I wish that i didn't feel so far away from god when i'm in depressed mode. I often feel my faith to be challenged when i'm like this.

I'm so sorry that your friend hurt you. I wish i could be of some comfort to you. I guess at the end, the only friend who really matters and is most faithful is christ. If only i could reach him when i'm in this dark pit. I hope you can. i pray you find healing and comfort from his tender heart.
 
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