• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

Is all sin equal in Gods eyes?

Doctrine1st

Official nitwit
Oct 11, 2002
10,009
445
Seattle
Visit site
✟12,523.00
Faith
Politics
US-Others
No they are not all equal. In fact, last night God spoke to me about this very subject and he explained it like this. When born, everyone has a expense account with a million dollars in it, and each sin cost porportionally to the deed. Murder, will cost you the whole million and straight to hell. Rape will cost you $750K, while robbery will cost you $500K, and on the otherhand touching yourself, emm....$.50 or 3 for $1.00.
 
Upvote 0

Ben johnson

Legend
Site Supporter
Feb 9, 2002
16,916
404
Oklahoma
Visit site
✟99,049.00
Faith
Christian
Murder, will cost you the whole million and straight to hell. Rape will cost you $750K, while robbery will cost you $500K, and on the otherhand masterbastion, emm....$.50 or 3 for $1.00.
I kinda think rape is WORSE than murder; murder only kills once, many rape victims die a little every day...

(Tell me, Doctrine1st, is that the FIRST, or the LAST BASTION???)

There is a "sin that leads to death", and a sin "not leading to death" (1Jn5:16); but "the wages of sin (all sin) are death" (Rom6:23). Clearly the "sin leading to death" is greater than the one "not leading to death". What could be the difference? In all of Scripture I find only one difference --- repentance.

"If we say we have no sin we lie and the truth is not in us; but if we CONFESS our sin (repent), He is faithful and just to FORGIVE our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1Jn1:9

That's really it --- unconfessed, unrepented sin is worse, 'cause it leads to death...
 
Upvote 0

FOMWatts<><

Follower of the Way
Jan 6, 2002
589
14
43
Nacogdoches, Texas
Visit site
✟23,470.00
Faith
Calvinist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
Doctrine1st said:
No they are not all equal. In fact, last night God spoke to me about this very subject and he explained it like this. When born, everyone has a expense account with a million dollars in it, and each sin cost porportionally to the deed. Murder, will cost you the whole million and straight to hell. Rape will cost you $750K, while robbery will cost you $500K, and on the otherhand masterbastion, emm....$.50 or 3 for $1.00.
That is just....?funny? I don't exactly know how to explain what I think about that explanation so I'll just hush and say I COMPLETLY disagree and think that such an explanation is NOT represenative of God OR the Bible, God's Holy Word.

FOM<><
 
Upvote 0

Seraphim Reeves

Active Member
Sep 27, 2003
45
6
46
K-W Region, Ontario
Visit site
✟15,195.00
Faith
Eastern Orthodox
The gravity of any given sin, is largely a question to be answered in the disposition of the individual. As such, to some extent, it is subjective - however, we can speak in generalities, because human beings are in the most basic sense, the same.

Some sins alienate people more from God than others, because of what they do the conscience, and the ramifications of said sins in their lives. Thus, apostacy is obviously going to be worse than a lapse into say, fornication - for the former robs someone of the very means to repent.

Seraphim
 
Upvote 0

kdet

God lives in us
Jul 12, 2003
7,541
256
63
TX
Visit site
✟31,807.00
Faith
Methodist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
I'm not sure what the answer is but I will say if ALL sins are equal in God's eyes then why did he establish different punishments for different offenses?
I believe that all sins are equally bad in God's eyes because sin is what seperates us from Him. But that is not the same as saying that He feels that all sins are the SAME in His eyes. A murderer of children would have to be more offensive in the eyes of God than a liar.
 
Upvote 0
I thought blasphemy of the Holy Spirit was the only unforgivable sin? I mean Paul killed many many Christians and he not only got saved he became one of the greatest teachers and apostles. Virtually all sin is equal in God's eyes. What's it Romans 3:23 says again? Oh yes....For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Now you may thing I'm wrong and that's your own opinion but to me that verse says that everyone sinned ( and I'm assuming these are a wide variety of sins)and they need Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was the glory of God and it's saying that we are not worthy of him, but he gives every sinner no matter who they are the opportunity to have salvation.
 
Upvote 0

kdet

God lives in us
Jul 12, 2003
7,541
256
63
TX
Visit site
✟31,807.00
Faith
Methodist
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Republican
if_i_only_had_a_brain said:
I thought blasphemy of the Holy Spirit was the only unforgivable sin? I mean Paul killed many many Christians and he not only got saved he became one of the greatest teachers and apostles. Virtually all sin is equal in God's eyes. What's it Romans 3:23 says again? Oh yes....For all have sinned and come short of the glory of God. Now you may thing I'm wrong and that's your own opinion but to me that verse says that everyone sinned ( and I'm assuming these are a wide variety of sins)and they need Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was the glory of God and it's saying that we are not worthy of him, but he gives every sinner no matter who they are the opportunity to have salvation.
I'm not talking about an unforgivable sin. I believe as you do that only blasphemy qualifies us for that. But God did set up His laws with punishments for different offenses...clearly He saw a difference in stealing and murder.
 
Upvote 0

Christi

Well-Known Member
Mar 28, 2002
2,548
219
Visit site
✟4,038.00
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Married
I think compared to the holiness of God, there isn't much difference between the best of us and the worst of us......He loves Charles Manson as much as He loves Billy Graham. (He calls US to that, also, btw, and I don't know about anyone else, but I find it hard.) The only difference is the blood of Christ. And who has accepted His sacrifice and believes it. I know in the Old Testament there were different punishments for different sins, but there was also alot of animal sacrifice. Christ came to take the heat for ALL our sins.....if we accept that, when God looks at us He sees Christ....not our sins, He sees us clothed in linen, pure and white. Makes no sense to my human brain, either, but it's in the Book.
 
Upvote 0

Carico

Well-Known Member
Oct 12, 2003
5,968
158
74
Visit site
✟29,571.00
Faith
Christian
There is a hierarchy of sin IN THE WORLD. Each sin has an appropriate consequence on earth. There is also a judgment day when we will be judged by God according to our deeds and if we are saved, there is a particular spot in heaven for us. However, none of us is without sin. There is not one righteous or perfect person among us and for that reason, one sin is not worse than another. Once saved, always saved.
 
Upvote 0

Buzz Dixon

Well-Known Member
Aug 25, 2004
869
29
71
Los Angeles
✟1,184.00
Faith
Christian
Carico is on the beam here. All sins are equal in that they are examples of us falling short of God's intended perfection for us. The only unforgivable sin is saying God is evil, and some argue it's unforgivable only in the sense that a person who truly believes such a thought would never ask God for forgiveness.

In the world, various sins have greater or lesser impact but they're not always obvious. Running somebody down accidentally with your car hurts a single person; being a celebrity with a reputation for reckless driving may cause several other people to emulate you and they will hurt others even if you never do.
 
Upvote 0

CSMR

Totally depraved
Nov 6, 2003
2,848
89
43
Oxford, UK & Princeton, USA
Visit site
✟3,466.00
Faith
Protestant
Marital Status
Single
Politics
UK-Conservative
Ben johnson said:
That's really it --- unconfessed, unrepented sin is worse, 'cause it leads to death...
Or rather, it's not worse as a sin, but it's worse for the sinner!
kdet said:
I'm not sure what the answer is but I will say if ALL sins are equal in God's eyes then why did he establish different punishments for different offenses?
I believe that all sins are equally bad in God's eyes because sin is what seperates us from Him. But that is not the same as saying that He feels that all sins are the SAME in His eyes. A murderer of children would have to be more offensive in the eyes of God than a liar.
Why should one thing offend God more than another, unless it is worse?
The different punishments for different offences in the OT did give a sense of some things being particularly bad. They gave a sense of some things being worthy of death, some things requiring restitution to the victim, some things requiring ceremonial cleansing, etc.. If we look deeply and spiritually into the nature of the law however we see that actually all offences are equally offensive and that we are nothing but offence to God. If God had established stoning for all offences, there wouldn't be anyone left.
 
Upvote 0
C

CRitabe

Guest
Sin has been defined as "missing the mark." I think that is how God sees it - and, he is faithful and just to forgive, so He says.

It is my opinion that it is a human thing to get caught up in the "better or worse" scenario. I don't think that is God's thing. I think it interesting in the Bible when King David committed a sin by having Bathsheba's husband killed and took her for himself - He asked David if he had rather be judged for his sin by man or by God. David said that he had rather be judged by God because he knew that God was able to see the heart - know all of his past - and understand why he behaved as he did. God was not too easy on King David either. God took away David and Bathsheba's first-born. Ouch!!

It seems that people are the ones that need a punishment rating system. One of the truly liberating things that has happened in my life has been to truly understand that I do not have to be the morality police in life. God does that just fine - thank you very much and it sure allowed me to have a lot more free time. ;)
 
Upvote 0

pacer234

Member
Aug 21, 2004
15
0
✟127.00
Faith
Baptist
Buzz Dixon said:
Carico is on the beam here. All sins are equal in that they are examples of us falling short of God's intended perfection for us. The only unforgivable sin is saying God is evil, and some argue it's unforgivable only in the sense that a person who truly believes such a thought would never ask God for forgiveness.

In the world, various sins have greater or lesser impact but they're not always obvious. Running somebody down accidentally with your car hurts a single person; being a celebrity with a reputation for reckless driving may cause several other people to emulate you and they will hurt others even if you never do.

Buzz,
I see what you are saying, but I dont 100% agree with you on that is the unforgivable sin. Now, yeah that is harmful to say that, I believe that, and then again, I may have just learned that fact and really thought about it 100% for the first time. Where I see " isnt it a.k.a (also known as) the unpardonable sin? is where you mock God, i havent dug deep enough to really realize what u are saying I guess. The thing is I understand what Mocking is, but I cant fully comphrend it. I am not saying that u are wrong, u may be right and i may be wrong. But just someone help me out on it
 
Upvote 0