Is abortion ever acceptable?

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He clearly meant Human life. And you are borderline trolling at this point as you're not actually engaging with anything meaningful.

I'm simply standing my ground.

I think what you are saying, is that if someone thinks it's okay to allow women to have abortions, if the pregnancy is the result of rape, then he is a troll.

 

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I think what you are saying, is that if someone thinks it's okay to allow women to have abortions, if the pregnancy is the result of rape, then he is a troll.

No, I’m saying that at this point you aren’t actually engaging in discussion. You’re being a broken record and contributing nothing.

If you disagree, answer a few questions:

1. Where in Scripture does it indicate that a living human being ever exists without a soul?

2. Can you admit that at the very least, it is apparent that based on Luke 1,John the Baptist, while still in his mother’s womb had a soul? If not, how is it you think a human being who both lept for joy and was filled with the Holy Spirit didn’t have a soul?

3. Your repetition of your uncertainty of when God puts a soul in a human implies that you believe humans without souls can be aborted without moral considerations, but human beings with souls shouldn’t be aborted, right?

If that’s the case, if you’re uncertain about when a human received a soul, why wouldn’t you err on the side of protecting the unborn human? I mean seriously, what if God does give humans a soul the moment they come into existence (which seems logical)?

 

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No, I’m saying that at this point you aren’t actually engaging in discussion. You’re being a broken record and contributing nothing.

If you disagree, answer a few questions:

1. Where in Scripture does it indicate that a living human being ever exists without a soul?

2. Can you admit that at the very least, it is apparent that based on Luke 1,John the Baptist, while still in his mother’s womb had a soul? If not, how is it you think a human being who both lept for joy and was filled with the Holy Spirit didn’t have a soul?

3. Your repetition of your uncertainty of when God puts a soul in a human implies that you believe humans without souls can be aborted without moral considerations, but human beings with souls shouldn’t be aborted, right?

If that’s the case, if you’re uncertain about when a human received a soul, why wouldn’t you err on the side of protecting the unborn human? I mean seriously, what if God does give humans a soul the moment they come into existence (which seems logical)?

I am simply standing up for what I believe in. Some people don't like that.

 

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I am simply standing up for what I believe in. Some people don't like that.

You just demonstrated my point. Your response has no content and isn’t engaging in conversation. Again I’ll ask, will you respond to the questions I posed?

You’re not standing up for any belief. You have to actually engage in discussion.

 

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You just demonstrated my point. Your response has no content and isn’t engaging in conversation. Again I’ll ask, will you respond to the questions I posed?

You’re not standing up for any belief. You have to actually engage in discussion.

I'm not trying to be engaging. I'm just making the point that a lady who is pregnant because she has been raped, has the right, I believe, to an abortion. I understand your concern. You think she might kill a living being if she gets an abortion. However, the fact remains that we don't know at what moment the Lord places a soul in that unborn child, but we do know that the raped lady did not ask to be pregnant.

 

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I'm not trying to be engaging. I'm just making the point that a lady who is pregnant because she has been raped, has the right, I believe, to an abortion. I understand your concern. You think she might kill a living being if she gets an abortion. However, the fact remains that we don't know at what moment the Lord places a soul in that unborn child, but we do know that the raped lady did not ask to be pregnant.

I’m just confused as to why you don’t seem concerned about that.

 

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I’m just confused as to why you don’t seem concerned about that.

I have concern for the unborn child, but I think the lady's concern trumps that of the unborn child. Would you allow abortions in the case that the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother?

 

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I have concern for the unborn child, but I think the lady's concern trumps that of the unborn child. Would you allow abortions in the case that the pregnancy threatens the life of the mother?

and I just don’t get how you think potentially killing an innocent human is ever morally acceptable. Where in Scripture can you find any support for that?

As for cases where the life of the mother is in danger, that’s different. I believe that doctors should look at both mother and unborn child as his patients. If a life threatening event occurs, he should view both mother and child as his patient with a goal to save both lives.

However, in the very rare occasion in which the doctor can only save the life of one, then he should do so. Better to save one than lose both.

But how a Christian in particular can support the killing of an innocent human who has done no wrong is something I cannot understand, nor can I find support for in Scripture.

 

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and I just don’t get how you think potentially killing an innocent human is ever morally acceptable. Where in Scripture can you find any support for that?

As for cases where the life of the mother is in danger, that’s different. I believe that doctors should look at both mother and unborn child as his patients. If a life threatening event occurs, he should view both mother and child as his patient with a goal to save both lives.

However, in the very rare occasion in which the doctor can only save the life of one, then he should do so. Better to save one than lose both.

But how a Christian in particular can support the killing of an innocent human who has done no wrong is something I cannot understand, nor can I find support for in Scripture.

Potentially killing someone cannot trump everything. In reality, there is no death.