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Is a Good Man deemed not Good because his faith is diffrent?

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Eternal Mindset said:
That is very true.
As a matter of fact, while he was sitting under a tree for 3 days, he was asked what he was doing; his reply was "Seeking the truth."

Unforunately, he created a 'truth' to explain what his life was missing.

In brotherly love,
Eternal Mindset :hug:
Remember Buddha was before Jesus. Living in the Ganges Basin I am sure he has never heard of the Israelites too.
 
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danclang said:
:sigh: What specific thing did Buddha espouses that's contrary to what Jesus espouses?
Well, there are many. I was under the impression you were familiar with Buddhism. Is that not true? :scratch:

One of the primary differences between Buddhism and Christianity is their completely different view of salvation and the means by which it is attained. Buddhism, like all other forms of idolatry, is a works based religion. Though much of evangelical Christianity and all of the Catholic based forms of Christianity are also largely works based, or at least include works as essential to salvation, the heart of the true Gospel is one of utter reliance and dependance upon Christ alone for salvation.

The differences are so insurmountable that I question why you are asking what it is that they express that is contrary to Christian doctrine. Here are a few that may help you see the glaring chasm between Christianity and Buddhism:

Buddhism is monistic. They deny the existance of the Creator. (Honestly, what could make it more irreconcilable with Christianity than this?) They submit that the world operates by natural law and power rather than divine command. Buddhism denies the existance of a personal God. Christianity, on the other hand, states clearly that there is a personal God and He is the only proper Recipient of worship. Because they deny God's existance, they deny the need for a Savior because we are incapable of sinning against a God that does not exist. They deny the resurrection in favor of reincarnation as does Hinduism, which was the predominant environment in which Buddhism was spawned.

"The Buddha is neither a god nor a prophet or incarnation of a god, but a supreme human being who-- through his own effort, attained to Final Deliverance and Perfect Wisdom, and became `the peerless teacher of gods and men.' He is a `Saviour' only in the sense that he shows men how to save themselves, by actually following to the end the Path trodden and shown by him." - Nyanatiloka Thera, Theravada Buddhist monk, author and expositor

If that doesn't show you some glaring and irreconcilable differences between Christianity and Buddhism then nothing will.

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Well, there are many. I was under the impression you were familiar with Buddhism. Is that not true? :scratch:

One of the primary differences between Buddhism and Christianity is their completely different view of salvation and the means by which it is attained. Buddhism, like all other forms of idolatry, is a works based religion. Though much of evangelical Christianity and all of the Catholic based forms of Christianity are also largely works based, or at least include works as essential to salvation, the heart of the true Gospel is one of utter reliance and dependance upon Christ alone for salvation.

The differences are so insurmountable that I question why you are asking what it is that they express that is contrary to Christian doctrine. Here are a few that may help you see the glaring chasm between Christianity and Buddhism:

Buddhism is monistic. They deny the existance of the Creator. (Honestly, what could make it more irreconcilable with Christianity than this?) They submit that the world operates by natural law and power rather than divine command. Buddhism denies the existance of a personal God. Christianity, on the other hand, states clearly that there is a personal God and He is the only proper Recipient of worship. Because they deny God's existance, they deny the need for a Savior because we are incapable of sinning against a God that does not exist. They deny the resurrection in favor of reincarnation as does Hinduism, which was the predominant environment in which Buddhism was spawned.

"The Buddha is neither a god nor a prophet or incarnation of a god, but a supreme human being who-- through his own effort, attained to Final Deliverance and Perfect Wisdom, and became `the peerless teacher of gods and men.' He is a `Saviour' only in the sense that he shows men how to save themselves, by actually following to the end the Path trodden and shown by him." - Nyanatiloka Thera, Theravada Buddhist monk, author and expositor

If that doesn't show you some glaring and irreconcilable differences between Christianity and Buddhism then nothing will.

God bless
Reformationist, I respect your intend. But I have to say your methodology is not correct. By the way, using Christian theology to explain Buddhism "different views of salvation and the means by which to attain it" you are using a weighing machine to measure distance.
If you are reading or have read books written by Christians explaining what Buddhism is, you asked need to discard all of those ideas and criticism. That's like asking my dog if she wants to go for a walk. Not a very objective point of view.
The salvation that buddha speaks of is not salvation pertaining to going to heaven. His history comes from seeing the pain of the world and how wonders if there's ever a way of relief. In searching, he realizes that pain is inevitable however misery is opinional. Look to equal Jesus's salvation to Buddha's salvation is comparing apples and oranges.
Your quote of the buddhist monk can be liken to me qouting "God hates ****" posters written by a bunch of bigots claiming to speak for God and Christians.


I am not going to debate you on this topic anymore because you need to do your research into pure Buddhism.
 
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danclang said:
Reformationist, I respect your intend. But I have to say your methodology is not correct. By the way, using Christian theology to explain Buddhism "different views of salvation and the means by which to attain it" you are using a weighing machine to measure distance.
If you are reading or have read books written by Christians explaining what Buddhism is, you asked need to discard all of those ideas and criticism. That's like asking my dog if she wants to go for a walk. Not a very objective point of view.
danclang, you seem to make the mistake of assuming I'm looking for an objective view of Buddhism. I'll ask you this. Does Buddhism teach enlightenment, wisdom and deliverance to their "nirvana" by the power of Christ alone? They deny the Father, they deny the Son and they deny that enlightenment and salvation comes to us by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. What objectivity can you offer that will overcome those truths of Buddhism?

The salvation that buddha speaks of is not salvation pertaining to going to heaven.
Why is it that you think that makes a difference? The thrust of the teachings of Siddhartha Gautama were spiritual teachings about transcending the limits and corruption of the body and the world. On the surface that may appear quite similar to Christianity. Unfortunately, they advocate a means that excludes not just Jesus but the entirity of the Godhead.

Look to equal Jesus's salvation to Buddha's salvation is comparing apples and oranges.
You're right. The Word of God is divinely sent while the word of Siddhartha Gautama has no salvitic benefit whatsoever, though can lead one far from the true teachings of the Gospel.

Your quote of the buddhist monk can be liken to me qouting "God hates ****" posters written by a bunch of bigots claiming to speak for God and Christians.
I have no idea what word got censored out there nor does it matter. I fail to see how quoting a renowned Buddhist monk about Buddhism is like quoting racists. His beliefs do represent Buddhism.

Do you deny any of the stuff I posted regarding the teachings of Buddhism?

I am not going to debate you on this topic anymore because you need to do your research into pure Buddhism.
"Pure Buddhism?" As I said before, Buddhism is idolatry and, therefore, there is nothing "pure" about it, at least not in a biblical sense. Sure, they have some teachings about the sanctity of life and that we should all treat others with kindness but, unfortunately for Buddhists, these teachings are not based upon a love for and motivation of God.

If you think you're going to pull the old "Buddhism isn't a religion, it's a philosophy" card then all you do is destroy the need to try to reconcile the teachings of the two any further and the validity of Buddhism becomes a non-issue and not worth our time.

Just out of curiosity, why are you so bent on defending Buddhism?

God bless
 
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danclangm, if you are familiar with Buddhism could you look at this page and tell me if it is indicative of what Buddhists profess?

I don't want you to think that I'm getting my information about Buddhism from an unreliable source after all.

Buddhas Village

Thanks,
God bless
 
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