Iraq issues missiles warning

[Aviyah]

Sunday, 2 March, 2003, 19:46 GMT

Iraq has warned it might halt the destruction of its al-Samoud II missiles if the United States continues to threaten military action without backing from the United Nations.

"If it turns out that in the early stages during this month America is not going the legal way... why should we continue [destroying missiles]?" Iraqi presidential adviser General Amir al-Saadi said at a news conference.

General al-Saadi said Iraq had destroyed 10 missiles since Saturday, meeting a deadline set by UN chief weapons inspector Hans Blix.

He also said that Iraq's missing anthrax had now been accounted for with the digging up of almost 157 bombs at a site south of Baghdad.

The announcement came as Iraqi and UN officials held talks in Baghdad on Sunday night to try to clarify what has happened to missing stocks of anthrax and VX nerve gas.

article here/ BBC


ok number one : i dont think iraq is in any position to be saying they wont destroy any more misslies unless of course they think they might win a war against the US which highly unlikely

number two surprise surprise surprise NOT!!!!!!!!

Iraq's missing anthrax had now been accounted for with the digging up of almost 157 bombs at a site south of Baghdad

well now i thought iraq didnt have any such weapons? amazing they found 157 bombs buried that was loaded with anthrax

oh but i guess they just forgot about them being buried in the ground now tell me if they found those bombs loaded with anthrax what else might they have buried? oh how about some smallpoxs or maybe some plague?


well for those of you who thought husain is such a innocent person and everyone is picking on him

i whould hope this whould maybe wake you all up to the reality of just how dangerous hussian is

and to all you who think there should be no war tell me doesnt the fact that they found all these bombs loaded with anthrax tell you that he is a lier when he says he doesnt have any WOMD ? he whould not hesitate to us e them on you if given a chance do you relly want t o wait and find out ?

 

[Hopeful]

but why is america still threatnening war if iraq is already disarming? doesnt that tell u that thAts not what they want, they dont want iraq tO disarm nothing, they want the war, i think we all know why, OIL.

 

[datan]

look--try to understand their position.

They're trying do disarm aren't they? But if the US is going to attack them regardless of what they do, they won't feel like being very co-operative, since they need those missiles to kill those evil US invaders.

Does it look like the US is going to attack them regardless of what they do? Yes.

 

[TheBear]

Saddam is playing his cards real good on this one.

 

[seebs]

Yes, exceptionally well-played. It's amazing how short peoples' memory is. Time and time again, Iraq gets caught lying, and people just keep arguing for a longer leash.

 

[datan]

I quote from msnbc.com. This really make me sick. Does the US really think it has the right to do whatever it ... well pleases to other countries? Does anyone here seriously believe that Bush isn't going to invade Iraq regardless of what Iraq does & what world opinion is? Does anyone here still wonder why so many people around the world hate the arrogant American attitude?

Special Operations troops are executing missions inside Iraq to prepare the way for later attacks. U.S. and British warplanes ostensibly enforcing the “no-fly” zones in northern and southern Iraq have increased the number and intensity of airstrikes, and recently expanded their list of targets to include Iraqi surface-to-surface missiles. They were attacked, defense officials said, not because they were in the “no-fly” zones and threatened U.S. aircraft but because they were in range of U.S. troops mustering just over the border in Kuwait.

The United States has extended the targets being attacked by air patrols in “no-fly” zones over the country to include weapons that could hinder a ground invasion. Senior U.S. defense officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said there had been an aggressive shift in strategy in the no-fly zones, which were set up after the 1991 Gulf War and now extend over more than half of the country. New targets being attacked by U.S. and British patrols include surface-to-surface missile systems and multiple-launch rockets that could be used against ground troops in an invasion or against neighboring nations.

 

[TheBear]

Here's a newsflash for ya. If the US forces had not built up in that region, do ya really think the Iraqi regime and Saddam Hussein would be talking to weapons inspectors in the first place? Heck, people like Hans Blix would be out of work.

 

[seebs]

In general, no, I don't think the US has the right to do whatever it wants.

In the case of a psychotic killer who uses chemical weapons on civilian targets, I think anyone who *can* has an obligation to make him stop - and 12 years of trying has shown that he won't stop. He kicked inspectors out for long enough to build mobile labs, and now, guess what, it's hard to find fixed labs. Gosh, what a surprise.

If you have better ideas, go ahead and suggest them. You may or may not have much time to think about this; the deadline is "before another 100,000 civilians are killed by the Iraqi military". You may have a year. You may have a week. Start thinking.

 

[Hank]

Today at 08:42 PM datan said this in Post #6

I quote from msnbc.com. This really make me sick. Does the US really think it has the right to do whatever it ... well pleases to other countries? Does anyone here seriously believe that Bush isn't going to invade Iraq regardless of what Iraq does & what world opinion is? Does anyone here still wonder why so many people around the world hate the arrogant American attitude?

No I am not surprised. People do not understand the US and thus hate it. People understand Hussein and love him and Iraq.   Not everyone can be arrogant, only Bush. Hussein after 12 years of defiance is the angel of the world, humblenessessessess in bloom.

Murharharharhar.

 

[datan]

hm... what about countries [or...country] which use nuclear weapons on civilian targets?

 

[gwyyn]

Yea Yea they destroyed some chemical weapons, and are s--l--o--w--l--y destroying those bombs. However ya'll see that they are not allowing any videoing being done of the destruction. Hmmmm

I still wanna know what's floating on those ships out on the sea.
And yes I do think Sadam is still lying about something.

gwyyn

 

[Hank]

Today at 08:58 PM datan said this in Post #10

hm... what about countries [or...country] which use nuclear weapons on civilian targets?

Which country when who what where?

 

[datan]

Today at 02:08 AM gwyyn said this in Post #11 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=686099#post686099)

Yea Yea they destroyed some chemical weapons, and are s--l--o--w--l--y destroying those bombs. However ya'll see that they are not allowing any videoing being done of the destruction. Hmmmm

hm...I thought I saw something like it on CNN? some bulldozers and missiles...?
Where do you get your information that they are not allowing any videoing?

 

[David Gould]

Today at 01:12 PM Hank said this in Post #12

Which country when who what where?

The USA has used atomic weapons on civilians.

 

[strathyboy]

Today at 01:13 AM Soldier_of _God said this in Post #1 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=685971#post685971)

and to all you who think there should be no war tell me doesnt the fact that they found all these bombs loaded with anthrax tell you that he is a lier when he says he doesnt have any WOMD ?

And? Since when is lying a crime worthy of having one's country invaded and one's power forcibly removed? Politicians lie as easily as they draw breath, and Hussein is no different.

Today at 01:13 AM Soldier_of _God said this in Post #1 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=685971#post685971)
he whould not hesitate to us e them on you if given a chance do you relly want t o wait and find out ?

So in order to prove that Hussein is going to use weapons of mass destruction, you're going to invade and force him to use weapons of mass destruction? How then will you prove that he had every intention of using them in the first place? Ah, the dilemma of the preemptive invasion.

So if Hussein has these weapons, why hasn't he been using them for the last 12 years? Did he even use them in the first gulf war?

 

[gwyyn]

Al-Saadi said Iraq had not permitted photographs or video images of the destruction — despite the potential impact on world opinion — because it didn’t want the Iraqi people to see what would be a bitter image

this is the excert from the article. below is the link
http://www.msnbc.com/news/842500.asp?0dm=N13KN

gwyyn

 

[Aviyah]

Yesterday at 05:17 PM Hopeful said this in Post #2 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=685981#post685981)

but why is america still threatnening war if iraq is already disarming? doesnt that tell u that thAts not what they want, they dont want iraq tO disarm nothing, they want the war, i think we all know why, OIL.

for oil? and your proof is where? oh hey wait what about iraq when they invaded kuwait you think they done it becasue they was bored and had nothing beter to do?

The USA has used atomic weapons on civilians.

here we go again

look--try to understand their position.

which whould be what that hussain is ruthless dictator who has his own famlliy members killed

But if the US is going to attack them regardless of what they do, they won't feel like being very co-operative, since they need those missiles to kill those evil US invaders.

please spare us the poor everyone is picking on iraq drama

Saddam is playing his cards real good on this one.

yup

So if Hussein has these weapons, why hasn't he been using them for the last 12 years? Did he even use them in the first gulf war?

well i guess that fact that he gased his own ppl doesn"t count for anything hmm scratch: and you dont call that using them or have you forgotten about that


i guess you didnt read where they found 157 bombs that were loaded with anthrax that they buried

Did he even use them in the first gulf war?

nope becasue we didnt give him a chance to use them , they put thier tails between thier llegs and ran home like a beaten dog

So in order to prove that Hussein is going to use weapons of mass destruction, you're going to invade and force him to use weapons of mass destruction?

well guess what he allready has rember the kurdish ppl or have y ou forgotten to?

Ah, the dilemma of the preemptive invasion.

you should have told that to hussain during the gulf war when he decided to invade kuwait

I still wanna know what's floating on those ships out on the sea.

me to but i think ppl are ignoring the fact that theres some WOMD floating on the sea but of course hussian is this pooor man who is beiong picked o n

 

[strathyboy]

Today at 11:24 AM Soldier_of _God said this in Post #17 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=686764#post686764)

which whould be what that hussain is ruthless dictator who has his own famlliy members killed

Have you heard about Hussein's family? It could have been self defence on Hussein's part to get them out of the way before they could kill him. I'm not excusing what Hussein did, I'm only pointing out that the surviving members of his family are as bad or worse. How bad were the ones he had killed?

Today at 11:24 AM Soldier_of _God said this in Post #17 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=686764#post686764)

well i guess that fact that he gased his own ppl doesn"t count for anything hmm scratch: and you dont call that using them or have you forgotten about that

First, why was there no outcry by the nations who supplied Hussein with most of those weapons? (Primarily Germany, Russia, France, and America).
Second, are you aware of the context of the gasssings? The Kurds had actively fought against Hussein during the Iran-Iraq war, committing terrorist acts against Hussein's regime and collaborating with the Iranians. In several of the sites in which Hussein used those weapons on the Kurds, there were Iranian soldiers present as well.
This doesn't excuse it, but it is context that is relevant to the situation.

If you simply say that America dropped two atom bombs on Japan, but neglect to mention the circumstance in which it happened, America sounds like an absolutely terrible nation.

Today at 11:24 AM Soldier_of _God said this in Post #17 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=686764#post686764)

i guess you didnt read where they found 157 bombs that were loaded with anthrax that they buried

So they were found and destroyed, right? And Hussein didn't use them? So what's your point?

Today at 11:24 AM Soldier_of _God said this in Post #17 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=686764#post686764)

well guess what he allready has rember the kurdish ppl or have y ou forgotten to?

I remember. So why didn't America even mention it until a few years ago? Since no civilized nation bothered to denounce Hussein's actions back then, one questions the moral high ground claimed by the major powers.

Today at 11:24 AM Soldier_of _God said this in Post #17 (http://www.christianforums.com/showthread.php?postid=686764#post686764)

you should have told that to hussain during the gulf war when he decided to invade kuwait

That has nothing to do with my statement regarding the dilemma of a preemptive invasion.

 

[datan]

Today at 11:24 AM Soldier_of _God said this in Post #17

for oil? and your proof is where? oh hey wait what about iraq when they invaded kuwait you think they done it becasue they was bored and had nothing beter to do?

and how many countries has the US invaded? Panama, Grenada, Haiti (but was UN-approved), Vietnam (over a pack of lies) ...ooh, looks it isn't too healthy being a neighbour of big bad USA either...

which whould be what that hussain is ruthless dictator who has his own famlliy members killed

and the USA is soon-to-be a renegade country which throws (or has already thrown) international law out the window. Have you ever wondered why so many countries around the world do NOT support you?

please spare us the poor everyone is picking on iraq drama

not everyone - just Bush and Blair.

i guess you didnt read where they found 157 bombs that were loaded with anthrax that they buried

yes -- they claimed they destroyed them, now they're showing the inspectors where the remains are. What's your point again???

nope becasue we didnt give him a chance to use them , they put thier tails between thier llegs and ran home like a beaten dog

sounds like the neighbour hood bully who beats up other children when they don't give him what he wants...

me to but i think ppl are ignoring the fact that theres some WOMD floating on the sea but of course hussian is this pooor man who is beiong picked o n

proof it

 

[Morat]

Most of the 157 bombs were destroyed. That they had anthrax was determined by sampling the area. I think roughly 20 were intact. They're suggesting ways UN inspectors can determine the quantity of the VX they disposed of in the same way, having already pointed out the sites.

Strangely, this confirms Scott Ritter's claim that, during his tenure, the Iraqis would destroy the things wholesale before the inspectors got there, in the hope of maybe keeping a tiny fraction back. So the inspectors had to check everything in a time-consuming fashion, to determine if, say, all 98 of a certain missle was destroyed, or just 90, and that all the warheads were included.