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Iran - where is this going?

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Just The Facts

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If Iran is attacked Pakistan will bail from the war on Terror and may even supply Iran with nukes to defend itself.

America is in NO position to take on Iran on the ground. Sure they can bomb the hell out of them but that will just make things worse. Iran has sophisticated cruise missiles and lots of them it will be a whole different ball game then dealing with Saddam. The SS-N-22 Sunburn hit speeds of mach 2.2 at low altitude and can hit any target in the gulf with in a few minutes from launch. Iran is reported to have over 1,000 of these missiles. Any American fleet in the Persian gulf would soon find itself on the bottom. The Sunburn is simply the best anti ship missile on the planet says Jane’s. More than 10 times as effective as the Exocette. Remember 2 exocettes cut the Stark in two. Imagine over 1,000 missiles 10 times more effective. In addition Iran has long range anti aircraft Missile systems Including the S-300 which was used by Yugoslavia to down a Stealth. Russia has long maintained that its S 300 can detect and shoot down the Stealth fighter and bombers. Either way bombing Iran is not the walk in the park many think it is.

Iran has a population of almost 70 Million and can field an army of over 1,000,000 men. True they will not be well armed. But that never stopped them in the Iran Iraq war. They would flood into Iraq never Mind the s h i t e in Iraq would start bombing US forces as well.

The Only way America could even hope to take on Iran is if the draft was started and all out war was declared if this Happens Pakistan has said it will defend Iran. Pakistan has nukes and delivery systems.

 
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and all this to protect who and for what reason/

Hollywood?
or is that _______Israelwood. the comedy hour of the middle east?
Sonset Strip______LOL.

camp zero, ground nothing and the old bottle of fermented wine gone bad.

When you have time to hear what the contextual teachings of the OT imply and get out of trying to superimpose the now day israel, which is nothing but another culture of HEATHENS, WHO ARE BELOW THE MORAL LEVEL AND NOT UNLIKE ANYOTHER CULT_URE RUN BY EVIL KINGS AND THEIR CRONIES OF SELFISHNESS, TAKING UP THEIR OWN GODS AS THE GOD OF CHOICE USING THEIR OWN GODS TO FORM THEIR OWN OPINION OF WHAT IS MORAL, AMORAL AND WHETHER OR NOT BOMBING THIS OR THAT IS ''''''OUR GODS, THE REAL GODS''''' IDEA OF PEACE OR DEFENSE OR ROADMAP TO PERDITION.

When you are tired of trying to live and analyze the 'what ifs and what abouts" that they are doing and get with hearing from the Holy Spirit, only then will you see the Plan as God is Orchestring before all of mans eyes, according to the Holy Spirits speaking by the mouth of the Holy Prophets.

You seem to be very short memory on the fact that God sent you His sons rising early, but you prefer to pay attention to man and loose focus as to what He is saying, preferring to be preoccupied by the gods of this world." .....this is paraphrased from the many reiterations by the OT Prophets who continually express that the elect, ie jews ie.......todays christians ......or easily distracted from the Word, and become preoccupied with what the leaders are doing.

Have you understood that is the businss of CNN and FOX the right arms of the democratic and Republican wings of gove respectively, yet still falling under the control of the BIG OZ'S, who are pulling the strrings and puttinf the authorities on finances, life and the middle east in the hands of the steins and bergs.
"""""oh we must protect the freedoms of America, Saddam has big bad bombs that could hurt America""""". LIES always has been and always will be lies, to protect OZ and the boys in the heathenjewisrael land of buddies and false ideas of what they have labelled as the home of god, their god only.

yes the picture is looking more like the stage should, and if you take the time out to here how this all comes down and where the angels and Hosts and saints and the children gather as in the elect, you will see there aren't too many beasts, dragons and serpents and foxes going to be happy. they will send frogs out of their moths leaping from one country to the next speaking words that come from the mouths of former so called dignitaries. THESE FROGS ARE THE WHITE AND GREEN TYPE YOU FIND IN THE JUNGLES AND THEY BITE.
HEAR CAREFULLY.
A matter of factly it will shake out just as it says it will in the Text and they will wonder as written in Rev ch 12, what they are going to do or how is it they didn't pick up on it earlier.

because they're stuck in the address of the union , thinking that the same ole rhetorical LIES will win over the stupid , dumb ass americn pawns who have flags on their forheads and fight for the freedoms to become like Sodom(y).

yes the Bible will hold true to It's Word, from beginning to end.

What a wonderful thing to find complete solace in the Song of Moses. Are you ready to sing that song?

That is after all the song that you must learn to advance into the throne............................IS IT NOT???????????????
 
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exodus19

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ya , ok when he shows will you recognize him/

what is the criteria for recognition?

There is no world peace execpt the remnant be taken from the world of evil kings and New Zion is built as it says OU.

Do you know how fast that can happen?

Think about it?

There isn't much time and in the twinkling of an eye.

Short time!!!!!!!!!

If you like, even before harper harps a tune out of rythum. lol

The ole canuks finally got the hint and martined up.

next you have to get rid of Cotler the jew boy before he llegallizes gangrape in the marriage ceremony.

Those steins up their are unbelievable, their camp David is even as influential as the cam sick'os in the camp washington campers.

they have their bride it's called the boys from Yale and harvard.

OUCH.

and as it says the mouth is as a 'two edged sword' and it will rip those dragons tongues right out and the poison from the mouth of their frofgs they spit out.

Disunited Nations, nothing but a big orgy with harlots and harlots. preparing to blow apart another harlot in the name of I ran off to the dog house with the rest of the evil harlots.

lol

gotta love tv, ........tell a vision.
 
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Iran's president is obsessed with the end times, always discussing how he is somehow chosen to usher in the end of the world scenario that will bring back their messaiah, which is the 12th Imam, or the Mahdi.

This new messiah is prophesied in the muslim world to return at the end of catastrophic events that will unfold on earth.

From a Christian perspective this is rather interesting.

Who will their "messiah" be?

Even if Iran is not attacked, oil prices will absolutely skyrocket in response to any kind of sanctions.

If Iran is attacked, things will get ugly. China and Russia have stated their unwavering devotion to Iran.
 
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Are we seeing the coming together of the Kings of the East? China, Iran, Iraq and possibly North Korea, but I don't see them getting involved while the present dictator is alive, too insular. And Russia is the lynch-pin maybe? Interesting times. My opinion is that whatever crisis is building up will come to a nasty head before the AC shows up, and might even usher him into the political arena. Thank God for God!
 
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There is thunder in His Voice and lightning in His fists.
It will be awsome....
I see no really viable option militarily other than tactical nuclear weapons.
If iran can deploy that much anti aircraft artillery,the options are winnowed down to nuclear missiles,or cruise type ones till the air defence capability is degraded sufficiently to allow manned aircraft to sortie.
Isreal has stated they will not abide a nuclear Iran,or any other Arab state......period.
 
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Ahmadinejad is a puppet. there was absolutely NO REASON to announce that he would develop nuclear weapons and suffer world wide condemnation, when he could've done it secretly like many other nations have done.

the ruling elite are playing chess, not checkers. they are doing everything to make this war happen.
 
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That makes two ruling elites trying to make the same war happen.....
The facts could very well add up to Iran already having some atom bombs which they could have obtained from several sources .......as they already have the missles for delivery,it could well be they possess a few nukes.and are trying to sucker the west into an attack, to which they will respond with WMD.
I reiterate to you Isreal has 2-400 nuclear weapons and the delivery syatems for them.There is no doubt in my mind that they will use them in this kind of threat scenario,if it looks like they may take too heavy losses in aircraft to do a conventional strike.
 
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bertie said:
That makes two ruling elites trying to make the same war happen.....
The facts could very well add up to Iran already having some atom bombs which they could have obtained from several sources .......as they already have the missles for delivery,it could well be they possess a few nukes.and are trying to sucker the west into an attack, to which they will respond with WMD.
I reiterate to you Isreal has 2-400 nuclear weapons and the delivery syatems for them.There is no doubt in my mind that they will use them in this kind of threat scenario,if it looks like they may take too heavy losses in aircraft to do a conventional strike.
i only know of one ruling elite, the prince of this world.
 
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I know of Two

Jesus who sits in Heaven and one day will rule on Earth.

Jn:14:30: Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Eph:6:12: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The rulers of the darkness of this world. I think all the Warmongers are just their tools.
 
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Just The Facts said:
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I know of Two

Jesus who sits in Heaven and one day will rule on Earth.

Jn:14:30: Hereafter I will not talk much with you: for the prince of this world cometh, and hath nothing in me.

Eph:6:12: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

The rulers of the darkness of this world. I think all the Warmongers are just their tools.
To reiterate, Satan is the prince of THIS WORLD for the here and now. Obviously when Jesus comes back, things will change. The whole point is, the war is being contrived and there is no 'good' side.
 
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so do you guys think i should contact the big gun of iran and see if we can make amends somehow.
you know i know his game and what he thinks about the events unfolding before us. It's well documented except it's misunderstood. Unless i can sit with these clowns for a day of two and have some time to go over their world view there is an invetalbe difficult time coming.

But notice the time and the time i'm here.

i was talking to my daughter to day about the set up and how incredible it was to see it perfectly fit into the prophetic writings of the end times.


and i say to you all pay attention for the days are at hand.
if you truly love God you will follow in line with His Will.

over
 
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thumperton said:
Ahmadinejad is a puppet. there was absolutely NO REASON to announce that he would develop nuclear weapons and suffer world wide condemnation, when he could've done it secretly like many other nations have done.

the ruling elite are playing chess, not checkers. they are doing everything to make this war happen.


Which makes me think they are up to something and believe they can win.

You gotta wonder what Osama bin Laden is up too as well , like does he have suicide bombers in place in the US ready to strike when given the word .( possable dirty bombs )

At this moment the Arab muslim world is going ape s... over a cartoon of mohammad depicting mohammad with a bomb instead of a turban on his head.

I think it's very possable to believe that the Arab muslim world is doing all it can to incite the west to attack , and that they are united and are ready to bring down the US.
 
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Brain Damage said:
Which makes me think they are up to something and believe they can win.

You gotta wonder what Osama bin Laden is up too as well , like does he have suicide bombers in place in the US ready to strike when given the word .( possable dirty bombs )

At this moment the Arab muslim world is going ape s... over a cartoon of mohammad depicting mohammad with a bomb instead of a turban on his head.

I think it's very possable to believe that the Arab muslim world is doing all it can to incite the west to attack , and that they are united and are ready to bring down the US.
it's a bit too convenient to think our enemes are all suicidal maniacs..
 
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Well I usually have something to add to a thread but I am completely without confidence on this one. I guess I have just lost faith in anything happening. Over the years they predict something is going to happen and pfffthhhh nothing ever has..............so far at least.
I must be alone but Im losing hope here.
 
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