Interspecies Relationships?

[Cute Tink]

I'm waiting for someone to say they want to mate with Gorn.

lol

Maybe Homo Reptilia though (non-Trek reference).

I see someone brought up Riker, but he was TNG's Kirk is all.

 

[Eudaimonist]

While many condemned Sulu's same-sex relationship with a human, I don't recall anyone condemning these interspecies relationships.

The only condemnation from me is the unrealistic nature of many aliens in Star Trek. A more realistic "relationship" would be this:

Still a better love story than Twilight.


eudaimonia,

Mark

 

[Tallguy88]

Humanoid, not human. Different species.

And please note, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But I also wouldn't have a problem with Sulu and his same-sex partner. Yet there were many objections to that in the other thread.

George Takei even objected even though he's a well known gay activist. Thing is, Sulu never was gay in the originals. They retconned it into the alternate timeline, basically as a homage to Takei. But Takei saw it as disrespectful of Gene Roddenbury's character. They should have just made a new gay character instead of messing with an existing one that wasn't gay.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-takei-reacts-gay-sulu-909154

 

[xpower]

Humanoid, not human. Different species.

And please note, I wouldn't have a problem with it. But I also wouldn't have a problem with Sulu and his same-sex partner. Yet there were many objections to that in the other thread.

you are not an average Republican are you? Many Republicans I have seen or encountered I would not have said what you just said.

 

[Gregory Thompson]

I have already posted this in the Christian's only section. In another thread there was considerable discussion regarding Mr. Sulu's same-sex relationship in the movie Star Trek Beyond. Yet the film also depicts relationships between Mr. Spock (Vulcan/human) and Lt. Uhura (human) and a possible developing relationship between Lt. Commander Scott (human) and Jaylah (unnamed species). Of course in an earlier movie in the latest Star Trek series there was an affair involving Kirk (human) and Galia (Orion).

While many condemned Sulu's same-sex relationship with a human, I don't recall anyone condemning these interspecies relationships.

If we ever make contact with other species, is there anything in scripture that would forbid interspecies relationships? Genesis 1:24 does come to mind, "let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds."

Thoughts?

Hmmmm ... well first they'd (being the rule oriented religious people) need to establish that the other species is not an angel or demon, if so a no-no, otherwise they'd be like another type of human as with galatians 3:28.

 

[tatteredsoul]

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[ewq1938]

Human-angel, angel-animal, animal interspecies relations...

The Sphinx
Griffin
Hydra
Kraken
Pegasus

Many animal hybrids of "legend" are based on real genetic manipulation and abominations in the antediluvian world. Gen 1:24 is clear, and you even have earthly examples of what happens - what will naturally happen if two kinds aren't compatible (donkey + horse = mule.)

Obviously a horse and donkey are compatible else a mule could not be born.


The Sphinx
Griffin
Hydra
Kraken
Pegasus

There is no evidence these creatures were ever real.

 

[Archivist]

you are not an average Republican are you? Many Republicans I have seen or encountered I would not have said what you just said.

Republicans don't march in lockstep.

 

[tatteredsoul]

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[Cute Tink]

George Takei even objected even though he's a well known gay activist. Thing is, Sulu never was gay in the originals. They retconned it into the alternate timeline, basically as a homage to Takei. But Takei saw it as disrespectful of Gene Roddenbury's character. They should have just made a new gay character instead of messing with an existing one that wasn't gay.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/george-takei-reacts-gay-sulu-909154

Because Spock and Uhura were dating in the original timeline? They changed so much about Kirk's history, nobody really makes a peep. Have Spock dating Uhura, not a peep. Obliterate Vulcan, totally believable in an alternate universe. A character becomes gay? Oh the horrors!

If they had made a new character, then everyone would be pointing out the character who was only there because he was gay. Not compelling at all.

 

[tatteredsoul]

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[ewq1938]

Even having offspring does not mean compatibility.

Yes it does. Incompatible animals cannot have offspring at all like a dog and a cat.

 

[tatteredsoul]

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[Mudinyeri]

(Sterility in nephilim/anakim/emim/rephaim was common.)

Sterility in humans seems to be quite common these days as well.

 

[tatteredsoul]

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[Archivist]

I agree with you. I think it was in poor taste, and lazy to make Sulu gay because the *actor* who played him was gay - even though Sulu was supposed to be straight according to Takei. They didn't have to make a new character, but how about arc someone else''s story who was part of the original crew - like Bones, Chekhov, or they could even have Kirk or someone else be bisexual.

I think Takei is right in his sentiments... very lazy. And, in the movie there really isn't much to suggest that the guy is Sulu''s boyfriend or husband except that one of their arms was around the waist of the other, and there was a child.

Emotionless Spok and Ohura have much more passion and believability than Sulu and his NAMELESS man.

Actually we don't know whether Sulu was or was not gay in TOS. The character was never developed enough to provide that information. The only time Sulu was ever depicted showing any interest in a woman was in a mirror universe.

 

[Tallguy88]

Because Spock and Uhura were dating in the original timeline? They changed so much about Kirk's history, nobody really makes a peep. Have Spock dating Uhura, not a peep. Obliterate Vulcan, totally believable in an alternate universe. A character becomes gay? Oh the horrors!

If they had made a new character, then everyone would be pointing out the character who was only there because he was gay. Not compelling at all.

I have a problem with the Spock/Uhura relationship as portrayed. There is no reason for it to exist. No impetus to cause a divergence on that in Spock's character. Now, if they had waited until after the destruction of Vulcan, then it would have made a lot more sense as spock trying to cope with the loss. But to just have it from the beginning makes no sense.

But retconning a straight character into a gay one doesn't make any sense, unless you believe sexuality is chosen.

 

[tatteredsoul]

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