Intersexuals..

[BreadAlone]

God says it, not me. I'm not going to post the horse-beaten Scriptures here at this time. But you can find them if you'd like to reread them. I'm not interested in debating the reasons the homosexual faction has for finding all the instances of the word "homosexual" in the Scriptures as unsatisfactory for believing though..I've go too much on my mind right now. Perhaps I'll start a formal debate about it some time..

 

[Miracle Storm]

God says it, not me. I'm not going to post the horse-beaten Scriptures here at this time. But you can find them if you'd like to reread them. I'm not interested in debating the reasons the homosexual faction has for finding all the instances of the word "homosexual" in the Scriptures as unsatisfactory for believing though..I've go too much on my mind right now. Perhaps I'll start a formal debate about it some time..

Curious as to why you posted in here in the first place..

No, God didn't say it.


But I would like this thread to stay on topic, in context with the OP and even perhaps if you would like to respond to this..

If you accept the fact that a person is born with male and female physical characteristics is it so hard to fathom that parts of the brain can have male 'characteristics' when the body appears female?

If you have to much on your mind I understand, I hope all is okay with you. If you ever need to talk about whatever...well you know where my mailbox is. ((hug))

 

[BreadAlone]

If you accept the fact that a person is born with male and female physical characteristics is it so hard to fathom that parts of the brain can have male 'characteristics' when the body appears female?

Perhaps the real problem is when we try attributing psycological characteristics to genders?

 

[Miracle Storm]

Perhaps the real problem is when we try attributing psycological characteristics to genders?

I agree people expect boys to be one way and girls another..

 

[FindingaWay]

Perhaps the real problem is when we try attributing psycological characteristics to genders?

Does this apply to sexual attraction?
Can we attribute 'being attracted to females' to one gender, or is this something less defined?

 

[Miracle Storm]

Does this apply to sexual attraction?
Can we attribute 'being attracted to females' to one gender, or is this something less defined?

Why would that be the one thing left out?
People are individuals, brains working very differently.
If we were still in the stone age it would be the woman's job to stay at home, pregnant and barefoot. There would be no woman voting, no woman in a position of authority over a man...
In fact if you read the bible that is exactly what it appears that is expected of a woman...well unless your the mother or the queen..

We are no longer ignorant in the aspect of woman being the lessers or stereotyping what they should be in society...So why should gender be stereotyped into who they should and should not be attracted to?

 

[david_x]

By being willing to accept theirselves as God made them and help others to do the same?

In one instance but i'm sure there are others.

On another note most follow their DNA attraction, but since they come out with both parts or female parts (doesn't happen the other way 'round) they may not be able to sense the hormones that make them attracted to the opp. sex.

 

[fragmentsofdreams]

People are born with all combinations of genetics, external sex characteristics, and gender identities. Genetics don't matter in most situations, so we can let either gender identity or external sex characteristics determine sex. Since we can change external characteristics but not the brain, gender identity should be determinative.

 

[david_x]

People are born with all combinations of genetics, external sex characteristics, and gender identities. Genetics don't matter in most situations, so we can let either gender identity or external sex characteristics determine sex. Since we can change external characteristics but not the brain, gender identity should be determinative.

People should be female unless completly male, that is the way genetics work.

 

[Athene]

People should be female unless completly male, that is the way genetics work.

The female sex is not a catch all group for all people born with sexual ambiguity thank you very much. If these people identify as female that's one thing but to say they are women because they are not 'completely' male is wrong and it's actually rather sexist.

FYI, we know from conditions like Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome genetics play second fiddle to the effect of hormones. Having a Y chromosome isn't enough to make CAIS individuals physically male even though they have the right combination of genes.

 

[HaloHope]

People are born with all combinations of genetics, external sex characteristics, and gender identities. Genetics don't matter in most situations, so we can let either gender identity or external sex characteristics determine sex. Since we can change external characteristics but not the brain, gender identity should be determinative.

Exactly, and may I say this is a fantastic post.

The only key thing that matters when determining gender is a persons gender identity, everything else is simply a changeable factor.

 

[david_x]

The female sex is not a catch all group for all people born with sexual ambiguity thank you very much. If these people identify as female that's one thing but to say they are women because they are not 'completely' male is wrong and it's actually rather sexist.

FYI, we know from conditions like Complete Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome genetics play second fiddle to the effect of hormones. Having a Y chromosome isn't enough to make CAIS individuals physically male even though they have the right combination of genes.

Genetics causes androgen insensitivity, for one thing. I was actually talking about the hormones, sorry if i confused you.