Intelligent Design's research impact on science

[xianghua]

So am I. The fact is there is ample evidence for evolution.

Denying it doesn't change that fact nor make the evidence go away.

you are welcome to believe that.

 

[pitabread]

you are welcome to believe that.

I don't have to believe it, I know it. It's just a fact.

 

[Jimmy D]

because i have read many of them. and every one of them was base on belief.

Many? What 2% something like that? Which papers have you read and how are they based on belief?

Put up or shut up, as they say.

 

[xianghua]

I don't have to believe it, I know it. It's just a fact.

because you believe that its a fact. not because its a fact.

 

[pitabread]

because you believe that its a fact. not because its a fact.

It really is a fact that there is evidence for evolution. Just like it's a fact the Earth exists and that we breathe oxygen.

We're talking about basic reality.

 

[xianghua]

It really is a fact that there is evidence for evolution. Just like it's a fact the Earth exists and that we breathe oxygen.

We're talking about basic reality.

are we talking about shared common descent to all creature? its clearly no a fact.

 

[pitabread]

are we talking about shared common descent to all creature? its clearly no a fact.

I'm talking about the fact there is evidence that supports the Theory of evolution. And yes, this includes the fact there is evidence that supports common descent.

It is a fact that that evidence exists.

 

[xianghua]

I'm talking about the fact there is evidence that supports the Theory of evolution. And yes, this includes the fact there is evidence that supports common descent.

It is a fact that that evidence exists.

show me that fact. so now "fact" becomed "evidence"?

 

[pitabread]

show me that fact. so now "fact" becomed "evidence"?

I'm saying that the evidence that supports the Theory of evolution exists. It is a fact that evidence exists. That is not a point up for debate. You can either accept that it is a fact that evidence exists, or you can continue to deny it exists.

If you want examples of the existence of evidence for evolution and common descent, Wikipedia has a comprehensive list: Evidence of common descent - Wikipedia

There are more examples here: What is the evidence for evolution?

And here: 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent

And here: Human Evolution Evidence

You could even just Google "evidence for evolution" and find lots more.

The point is this evidence exists. If you claim that it doesn't exist, then you're just denying reality.

 

[xianghua]

I'm saying that the evidence that supports the Theory of evolution exists. It is a fact that evidence exists. That is not a point up for debate. You can either accept that it is a fact that evidence exists, or you can continue to deny it exists.

If you want examples of the existence of evidence for evolution and common descent, Wikipedia has a comprehensive list: Evidence of common descent - Wikipedia

There are more examples here: What is the evidence for evolution?

And here: 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent

And here: Human Evolution Evidence

You could even just Google "evidence for evolution" and find lots more.

The point is this evidence exists. If you claim that it doesn't exist, then you're just denying reality.

again: are we talking about common descent for all creatures or just variation over time? be specific.

 

[pitabread]

again: are we talking about common descent for all creatures or just variation over time? be specific.

I'm talking about the evidence for the theory of evolution. Yes, this includes common ancestry. And yes, there exists evidence that supports common ancestry of species. See the prior post.

That evidence exists.

 

[tas8831]

Of the remaining 16, I counted a combined total of 50 citations for all 16 articles. Six articles had zero citations. The remaining articles had between 1 and 12 citations.

Amazing output and scientific impact.

I am a virtual nobody in the world of science, have not published anything in more than a decade. Yet... My LEAST cited paper has almost 50 citations. My most cited paper has more than 500. One of my graduate advisor's papers had more than 3000. And that was just 1 paper by one guy in the field of evolution.

 

[tas8831]

It seems to me that neither evolution or ID has done much good for humanity. Whyzat I wonder?

What good has "Biblical Archaeology" done for humanity?

 

[tas8831]

We understand a lot about many things, but things don't seem to be getting better. For example medical science knows how to treat disease but seems powerless to reduce it. Taking notes on how long it takes for someone to drown doesn't help the person who is drowning.

Well I guess we should just abandon research and rely on thoughts and prayers.

That seems to have done wonders for society - look at how successful prayer has been at reducing gun violence.

 

[tas8831]

You need to review my whole body of work here.

OK...

How to choose between creation and evolution.

Does science actually admit "design"?

Lots of stuff to look through... for valid opinions, scientifically relevant assertions... humility when shown to be in error, etc.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Well I guess we should just abandon research and rely on thoughts and prayers.

That seems to have done wonders for society - look at how successful prayer has been at reducing gun violence.

Is suicide, murder, and accidents a disease?

 

[OldWiseGuy]

OK...

How to choose between creation and evolution.

Does science actually admit "design"?

Lots of stuff to look through... for valid opinions, scientifically relevant assertions... humility when shown to be in error, etc.

I meant the serious stuff.

 

[AV1611VET]

...

What do you do for a living?

 

[VirOptimus]

I meant the serious stuff.

Your non-troll posts? Isnt that zero?

 

[AV1611VET]

Your non-troll posts? Isnt that zero?

In a bad mood today, are you?