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I was challenged by John Wesley's and Methodist view of evangelical instantaneous conversions.
I found out, conversion is not a long process of: water baptism in Jesus' name, Holy Spirit while waiting for evidence of speaking in tongues, standards of holiness, legalism, rituals, etc. etc.
I found out after looking at numerous conversion examples when people received assurance, forgiveness, was at the moment of belief and oral confession of faith. At one point is someone justified? At one point does someone receive the assurance, "Shall Be Saved?" At one point does one access grace? Receive the peace of God? Here is some additional Scriptures and points:
Romans 3:28 (NIV) - For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
-some refer to "works of the law" here as just Judaic legalism, but "works of the law" in the context of this verse is any legalism [standards].
Romans 5:1 (NIV) - Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Romans 5:2 (NIV) - through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.
1. Faith alone justifies a man
2. we have peace with God because of the justification
3. we access grace by faith only
Romans Chs. 1-6 dealt with justification by faith only Romans 10 dealt with the practical and pastoral aspect of justification. The how someone is justified?
I used to be KJV only, but the NIV made it clear to me:
That if you confess with you mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with the heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
Belief in heart = justification
confess with mouth = saved
justification and saved are symotaneous, and the belief and confessioni are instantaneous presents in the Greek New Testament.
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord - Romans 10:13 is also instantaneous. Therefore, conversion is not a process of (water baptism, ritual, more ritual, speaking in tongues, standards, or legalism).
That is why I believe that conversion occurs at the moment of faith and belief when we, call upon the name of the Lord. That is the reason we call upon the name of the Lord for conversion without the requirement of water baptism, speaking in tongues, standards, and legalism. We are saved by grace through faith [only] without legalism. To God be the Glory!
What do you have to say about all this?
God Bless,
PS: I was UPCI, and now I am United Methodist. I inquired about instantaneous conversion and got it
I found out, conversion is not a long process of: water baptism in Jesus' name, Holy Spirit while waiting for evidence of speaking in tongues, standards of holiness, legalism, rituals, etc. etc.
I found out after looking at numerous conversion examples when people received assurance, forgiveness, was at the moment of belief and oral confession of faith. At one point is someone justified? At one point does someone receive the assurance, "Shall Be Saved?" At one point does one access grace? Receive the peace of God? Here is some additional Scriptures and points:
Romans 3:28 (NIV) - For we maintain that a person is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.
-some refer to "works of the law" here as just Judaic legalism, but "works of the law" in the context of this verse is any legalism [standards].
Romans 5:1 (NIV) - Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ,
Romans 5:2 (NIV) - through whom we have gained access by faith into this grace in which we now stand. And we boast in the hope of the glory of God.
1. Faith alone justifies a man
2. we have peace with God because of the justification
3. we access grace by faith only
Romans Chs. 1-6 dealt with justification by faith only Romans 10 dealt with the practical and pastoral aspect of justification. The how someone is justified?
I used to be KJV only, but the NIV made it clear to me:
That if you confess with you mouth Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is with the heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved.
Belief in heart = justification
confess with mouth = saved
justification and saved are symotaneous, and the belief and confessioni are instantaneous presents in the Greek New Testament.
For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord - Romans 10:13 is also instantaneous. Therefore, conversion is not a process of (water baptism, ritual, more ritual, speaking in tongues, standards, or legalism).
That is why I believe that conversion occurs at the moment of faith and belief when we, call upon the name of the Lord. That is the reason we call upon the name of the Lord for conversion without the requirement of water baptism, speaking in tongues, standards, and legalism. We are saved by grace through faith [only] without legalism. To God be the Glory!
What do you have to say about all this?
God Bless,
PS: I was UPCI, and now I am United Methodist. I inquired about instantaneous conversion and got it