• Welcome to Christian Forums
  1. Welcome to Christian Forums, a forum to discuss Christianity in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to be able to join in fellowship with Christians all over the world.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

Inherent free will of fallen mankind (spiritually inherent bipolar/bi-natured fallen mankind)

Discussion in 'Salvation (Soteriology)' started by davidgeminden, Nov 13, 2017.

  1. davidgeminden

    davidgeminden Newbie

    9
    +2
    United States
    Baptist
    Married
    I refer to myself as an "inherent-free-willer" Christian, which means I believe in the inherent ability of fallen unsaved mankind to accept/believe or reject God's call/drawing/convicting/convincing/persuading teaching work using the creation, the Word of God, and the Holy Spirit (Rom. 1:18-20; Rom. 10:8-17; 1Thess. 2:13; Heb. 4:12; Luke 8:21; Jn. 15:26, 16:13; 2 Thess. 2:13).

    I believe humans are born corrupted bipolar sinners [The unsaved old man (Rom. 6:6; Eph.4:22; Col. 3:9)] having bipolar hearts (“the heart is deceitful above all things….” – Jer. 17:9) with two spiritual poles (or two spiritual natures), good and evil, because of Adam's and Eve's sin, that is, unsaved fallen/corrupted/sinful mankind is spiritually bipolar, bi-natured (spiritually dual natured) having two spiritual natures [a good spiritual nature (pole) and an evil/sin spiritual nature (pole) (Gen. 2:16-17; Gen. 3:1-7; Rom. 1:19, Rom. 2:14-15, Rom. 7:15-25)] internally pulling on our free wills, rather than just externally pulling on our wills as took place with God’s external commands and instructions and the external temptation of the serpent that took place in the garden of Eden – thus, knowing good and evil in accordance with Adam's and Eve's sin of eating of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Because one pole (one nature) of bipolar (bi-natured) fallen mankind is evil, it inclines unsaved mankind and saved mankind towards sin and ensures that morally capable people will sin and not be able to live a perfect sinless life. In Rom. 2:15 the Holy Spirit states through the Apostle Paul that the gentiles have the law written in their hearts which I believe is biblical evidence of the good spiritual nature (pole) in unsaved fallen bi-natured (bipolar) mankind. In Rom. 7:23 the Holy Spirit has the Apostle Paul state that a law of sin dwells in his members which I believe is biblical evidence of the evil spiritual nature in unsaved fallen bi-natured mankind. The new man (born again person) is a Christian born again (indwelt by the Holy Spirit and should be willingly walking in/after the Spirit); that is, the new man has a good spiritual nature, evil/sin spiritual nature and the indwelling Holy Spirit and should be (of his own free will) willingly walking in/after the Spirit (Eph. 3:16, Eph. 4:24; Col. 3:10; 2 Cor. 5:17; Rom. 7:24-8:26; Gal. 5:16-25).

    My limited knowledge of early Christian history led me to conclude that when the early Christian community concluded that fallen mankind had only one nature that was evil, the door was opened for pagan unconditional determinism/predestination to be easily injected into Christianity ultimately resulting in the development of an anemic puppeteering sovereign God concept and the TULIP soteriology.
     
  2. com7fy8

    com7fy8 Newbie Supporter

    +1,651
    Christian
    Single
    But Jesus says there is only One who is good.

    Matthew 19:17

    Mark 10:18

    Luke 18:19

    So ?

    So, if only God has truly good nature, how can His inferior created beings have the goodness of nature to make a really good choice? And, also, if humans have fallen from grace so humans are sinners, how can sinners of their own selves have the goodness of nature to make the good choice which one needs to make?

    Our Apostle Paul says "we all" "were by nature children of wrath, just as the others." (in Ephesians 2:3. How can a person who is evil "by nature" make a good choice?
     
  3. bling

    bling Regular Member Supporter

    +518
    Non-Denom
    Married
    They make a very selfish choice (not righteous or honorable) and that choice comes when they are brought to their senses by their bad choices to finally give up , wimp out and surrender to their enemy (which is not noble in any way), but even while they consider God their enemy their surrendering allows God to shower them with gifts.
     
  4. fhansen

    fhansen Oldbie

    +533
    Catholic
    Married
    Even believers continue to struggle with the tendency to sin-concupiscence.
     
Loading...