20 August 2018 dad: A clear lie when I have stated the facts several times.Well, didn't you claim the Greeks added stars? Be clear.
Wow - you finally understand something, dad!So when you add in the claim that it was from millions and billions of light years away, we all should remember that has zero to do with neutrinos and light getting here in slightly different times!
20 August 2018 dad: A "seem to ignore the fact that the light from stars is only seen here" lie when I have stated that several times.You seem to ignore the fact that the light from stars is only seen here.
We detect that light and neutrino pulses arrive here from SN1987A and TXS 0506+056. We detect that the neutrino pulses arrive and then the light pulses arrive. We know that how light and neutrinos interact with matter which will cause the delay that we measure.
20 August 2018 dad: Back to a delusion of "distance enters the picture"When you claim it took billions or millions of years to get here, distance enters the picture.
Spamming the defeated off tangent list that you were asked to show even applied in any remote way to the issue of the nature of time itself in deep space. What a sad joke.
Can you prove that the Greeks or others did not build on what was already known, and worked with that?There is no list of the stars in the Hebrew "Orion" constellation.
There is Hebrew astronomy where "Only a few stars and constellations are named individually in the Hebrew Bible, and their identification is not certain.". The Bible only identifies the stars in an rope which I assume is Orion's belt.
Ancient Greek astronomy has a large literature containing names of stars and constellations.
25 July 2018 dad: The Hebrew "fool" constellation is not conclusively the Greek "hunter" constellation
Great. So feel free to comment on the view FROM the fishbowl I guess.A "seem to ignore the fact that the light from stars is only seen here" lie when I have stated that several times.
First you say distance is no issue, then list two sources for religious distances.20 August 2018 dad: Back to a delusion of "distance enters the picture"
The distance is not my claim, it is the measured distances to the sources of the neutrinos and light. The OP has an astronomer stating the distance to 1 source. Wikipedia has the distance to SN1987A. The scientific literature has those distances.
24 August 2018 dad: Repeats the lie that I have not shown that the list is evidence that the nature of time is the same outside of the Solar SystemSpamming the defeated off tangent list that you were asked to show even applied in any remote way to the issue of the nature of time itself in deep space. What a sad joke.
24 August 2018 dad: An idiotic "prove that the Greeks or others ..." question.Can you prove that the Greeks or others did not build on what was already known, and worked with that?
24 August 2018 dad: A "religious distances" delusion.First you say distance is no issue, then list two sources for religious distances.
Missed a probable fantasy in the OP.If we look at the Archer, and his bow in the heavens (Orion) and draw an arrow exactly where the archer's fingers would hold the arrow to shoot...we get the exact source of the neutrinos!!! Shooting right to earth!
The Orion myth involves a bow (his death by the bow of Artemis) and seems to leak into descriptions of the constellation.
Since you have failed to show how any one of the off tangent points in the list even relates to what time is like in far space, your list is evidence for nothing except your lack of grasp on the core issues of the debate.24 August 2018 dad: Repeats the lie that I have not shown that the list is evidence that the nature of time is the same outside of the Solar System
The ladder starts with parallax, which uses huge swaths of space (therefore of time also) from our solar system and treats it strictly as space alone. As I said..religious twaddle.Distances to stars and galaxies raphe measured using science, e.g. the simple geometry behind parallax in the cosmic distance ladder.
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That arrow cannot give the "exact source of the neutrinos" because it is a line, not a point! It may cross the source of the neutrinos.
OK, that is fine. The impact and effect from that star system area comes from the arm then. That work for you?TXS 0506+056: "Its approximate location on the sky is off the left shoulder of the constellation Orion".
Orion is a hunter not an archer. Orion supposed to carry a club.
Whatever. If we picture it as a bow, then it could be the hand of the archer where the neutrinos come from. If we picture it as a shield, then we could say it comes from the arm of the guy holding the shield. In any case we get influences from that hand or arm area!The Orion myth involves a bow (his death by the bow of Artemis) and seems to leak into descriptions of the constellation.
24 August 2018 dad: Repeats the lie that I have not shown that the list is evidence that the nature of time is the same outside of the Solar SystemSince ....
30 August 2018 dad: Ignorance and lie about parallax with a "religious twaddle" delusion.The ladder starts with parallax, which uses huge swaths of space (therefore of time also) from our solar system and treats it strictly as space alone. As I said..religious twaddle.
30 August 2018 dad: A ignorant question when the line (arrow from an imaginary bow) fantasy is what he wrote.Well, it was pinpointed to a coordinate in the Orion system. Now tell us why you call that a line rather than a point?
30 August 2018 dad: An ignorant "comes from the arm" assertion.The impact and effect from that star system area comes from the arm then.
30 August 2018 dad: Ignorance and lie about parallax with a "religious twaddle" delusion.
The cosmic distance ladder starts with measuring the AU.
A" treats it strictly as space alone" lie when parallax is about the change in position of background stars with time, e.g. 6 months between terrestrial observations.
The cosmic distance ladder is valid science.
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