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Do not trust in the wisdom of man but in in the power of God! In no way would that discourage me. Sarah laughed at God when He told her she would bear a child at the age of 90. God replied, "Is there anything too hard for the Lord?"

We tend to look at the things which are seen, but God tells us to look at things that are unseen. The carnal mind is death, but the spiritual mind is life and peace. A man who truly loves you is not going to care about it. What God joins together, let no one tear apart. There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear.
 
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I couldn't have kids. Got a prophecy from someone that we would get a kid, now I've got three. With 36, 38 and 39 I got 'em. When I'm too tired to play I tell 'em: You should have taken a younger mother.:D
My mother and I prayed for the brother of my sister's husband, his wife couldn't have kids. They've got two now.
 
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Would you be okay marrying a woman knowing you couldn't have children with her?

Yes.

But then, my reasons for marrying a woman would be completely centered around her. Other human beings, existing or not, are not even in the equation.

Infertility might even be a plus for some men.
 
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Just continue to bear in mind that your condition does not always result in infertility. You have just as much of a chance of being perfectly fertile as you do infertile. Doctors like to scare by always dropping those 'worst case scenarios' in patients ears. Do your own research on endometriosis...find out all the facts you can about it. Perhaps even visit different a doctor for a second opinion.

Doctors do not enjoy scaring patients. But doctors do have an obligation to be honest with patients about the reality of medical situations. Even if the news isn't good. Should we have doctors lie to patients to make medical situations seem less serious or something?
 
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Doctors do not enjoy scaring patients. But doctors do have an obligation to be honest with patients about the reality of medical situations. Even if the news isn't good. Should we have doctors lie to patients to make medical situations seem less serious or something?

I'm aware of all that, and I wasn't suggesting that doctors lie or sugarcoat anything. ? Not sure how you got that from my post.

There is more to endometriosis than "you have a 50 percent chance of being infertile". So AlyssaJulianna would be prudent to look into it herself and find out all she can about her condition, and having a second opinion isn't going to harm anything.
 
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Alyssa, I can't tell you how guys would feel about it... but as much as I want children I wouldn't be too bummed if I couldn't have my own. There are so many sweet kids in the world who need families that I really wouldn't mind adopting instead of having biological children.
 
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I believe endometriosis makes you infertile only because it interferes the the ability of conception from happening. I don't believe that there would be any reason to freeze your eggs because perfectly happy healthy ones would be available in your ovaries for harvesting any time you needed them.

My husband had a condition that he was told would most likely render him infertile (physiological not disease, like you). I wanted kids but married him anyway because I wanted him more. However, I got pregnant both times we tried...the very first month.

My SIL was told the same thing you were when she was young and even had surgery for it when she was 20. They had her convinced that she was infertile so she didn't use any form of birth control and she was pregnant less than 2 months after the surgery. She now has 6 kids. 50% chance is a far cry from being infertile. You are NOT defective or broken whether or not you can have kids.
 
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I believe endometriosis makes you infertile only because it interferes the the ability of conception from happening. I don't believe that there would be any reason to freeze your eggs because perfectly happy healthy ones would be available in your ovaries for harvesting any time you needed them.

My husband had a condition that he was told would most likely render him infertile (physiological not disease, like you). I wanted kids but married him anyway because I wanted him more. However, I got pregnant both times we tried...the very first month.

My SIL was told the same thing you were when she was young and even had surgery for it when she was 20. They had her convinced that she was infertile so she didn't use any form of birth control and she was pregnant less than 2 months after the surgery. She now has 6 kids. 50% chance is a far cry from being infertile. You are NOT defective or broken whether or not you can have kids.

:thumbsup: Thank you for sharing that. This is kind of the point I was trying to make but your own testimony made it a lot clearer. :)
 
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I'm aware of all that, and I wasn't suggesting that doctors lie or sugarcoat anything. ? Not sure how you got that from my post.

There is more to endometriosis than "you have a 50 percent chance of being infertile". So AlyssaJulianna would be prudent to look into it herself and find out all she can about her condition, and having a second opinion isn't going to harm anything.

To quote you again:
"Doctors like to scare by always dropping those 'worst case scenarios' in patients ears."
I'm not sure how else you could possibly interpret that other than doctors get some sort of cheap thrill out of freaking patients out. I'm sure the doctor was probably a lot more nuanced in his explanation and she keyed in on what seemed like the big news, the 50% infertility rate.
I never said getting a second opinion was a bad thing. But it's a little weird to imply doctors like to freak patients out for some unknown motive.
 
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To quote you again:
"Doctors like to scare by always dropping those 'worst case scenarios' in patients ears."
I'm not sure how else you could possibly interpret that other than doctors get some sort of cheap thrill out of freaking patients out. I'm sure the doctor was probably a lot more nuanced in his explanation and she keyed in on what seemed like the big news, the 50% infertility rate.
I never said getting a second opinion was a bad thing. But it's a little weird to imply doctors like to freak patients out for some unknown motive.

You are reading far too much into my post, dude. But that's a common mistake when interacting online, a mistake I've made myself before as well. However, I consider the field of conventional medicine is no more than a business. So if you are perceiving that I hold a negative view of doctors, then you are correct. But my personal opinion of doctors and the medical field in general is really neither here nor there as that is not the topic of this thread. So let's leave it at that.
 
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A lot would depend on our chemistry, the reasons for her infertility, and the way she lets me know. Although I think it's unfortunate, and I might mourn a little inside, this scenario wouldn't be enough to turn me away from an otherwise great match. Besides, childless/childfree marriages do have a few benefits such as more disposable income, no childbirth pain for the wife, no need for birth control etc.
 
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My ideal spouse would be a person who isn't attached to the idea of having biological offspring, because I don't want to go through pregnancy and childbirth. There are definitely people who won't mind having an infertile spouse. :)
 
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I had a surgery at the age of 19 that I did NOT want but certain family members felt i should get. Ever since then, i had to live with that regret of getting that surgery done that has made me infertile. I am almost 27 now and I still want to have children. It hurts so much that even phrases like "Maybe God has a different plan for you. " is hurtful to me.
What do you mean by that? Does God not want me to be a mother?
 
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what surgery was this sorry?
I'm sorry but anyone can have children, and if you ARE infertile it just means maybe you can adopt. When you adopt you are not less of a mother than someone who has natural children. You will be the one mothering the child.
 
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