indoctrination stops the imagination?

[bricklayer]

Being first then is free and second to infinity is a problem. Sounds like that train of thought is a problem, even for the first. If we have life then we must have depth of thought and random ideas. Where is it that life makes copies and not like the life as it was in the origin? Think about it. Are we copies or originals. Does DNA union in the womb produce a copy or an original? In us in our lives after birth, DNA can only make copies till we lose info and have the DNA death _errors.

Tell me that my five year son is a copy and I will tell you that you haven't met him and that you must come to the surface to breathe air like the rest of us, sooner or later. My son has more energy in his imagination coming out than is being put into him. He is a well-spring of ideas coming from an unknown source.

What happens in the whom is a recombination of pre-existing information, albeit unique.
The absence of chance does not negate the presence of choice.
There is no chance.
With all due respect to your wonderful son, no effect can transcend its cause.
Human beings do not have intellectual conceptions, we have intellectual perceptions.

 

[sandwiches]

Human beings do not have intellectual conceptions, we have intellectual perceptions.

We have conceptions from perceptions.

 

[bricklayer]

We have conceptions from perceptions.

All ideas are eternally present, in the mind of God.
We cannot conceive of a new idea.

We perceive concepts, but we don't have intellectual conceptions.

The difference between our ideas and God's ideas is that we are not the first ones to have our ideas.

 

[Daniel25]

Well I was thinking about this and wonder that when a child is indoctrinated, does that child lose the will to have a real imagination, dream etc. But really im just asking this as a question, when children are taught that magic is evil and you should never thing about it, would not that make the childs imagination less......imagative?

Please your options.

Indoctrination is the formation of principles in children. Hippies have somehow attached a sinister concept to the word, but all education involves tons of subsuming ones intellect in order to get to the frontiers of knowledge.


Unless, you think we should merely throw kids outside and wait for them to develop empiricism; then in high school, drop a pile of dirt on their lap and expect them to derive the periodic table, and finally to hope they learn not to steal and brutalize the weaker members of their cohort for profit or fun.

 

[Gracchus]

Indoctrination is the formation of principles in children. Hippies have somehow attached a sinister concept to the word, but all education involves tons of subsuming ones intellect in order to get to the frontiers of knowledge.


Unless, you think we should merely throw kids outside and wait for them to develop empiricism; then in high school, drop a pile of dirt on their lap and expect them to derive the periodic table, and finally to hope they learn not to steal and brutalize the weaker members of their cohort for profit or fun.

Indoctrination involves teaching the acceptable answer. Education involves teaching how to find the correct answer. To pass the test you have to give the acceptable answer. Notice that passing the test may or may not involve the correct answer.

So if you want to be successful, pay attention to your indoctrination, but don't neglect your education.

 

[sandwiches]

All ideas are eternally present, in the mind of God.
We cannot conceive of a new idea.

Sure we can.

We perceive concepts, but we don't have intellectual conceptions.

We do have them.

The difference between our ideas and God's ideas is that we are not the first ones to have our ideas.

We have some original ideas every now and then.

 

[Received]

We have conceptions from perceptions.

Great bumper sticker.

 

[david_x]

Left to their own devices children tend to think that murder is fine.

It depends on how you define children i suppose.

 

[The Paul]

Let's have some imagination: Is murder really bad?

That exercise is how we come to understand murder is bad.