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It is commonly taught that we can't have victory over sin even as Christians. To say we can't have victory over sin, that we will sin the rest of our lives even in Christ denies all that He has done and is doing for us. We are claiming to be incontinent in which 2 Timothy 3:3 states that if we are in continent, that if we can't help ourselves that we are denying the power of God and others of the faith should turn away from us. The theology that we still sin as Christians comes from a misunderstanding of 1John 1:8-10 for the most part. Open up your Bible and Please follow along.
Understanding the context and grammar is extremely important here in these verse. We can't have fellowship with the Father and Son and Walk in darkness. If we are walking in the light, as He is in the light, The blood of Jesus cleanses us of all sin. If we are cleansed of all sin we will have no sin left. All is all. First and foremost verse 1:8 in 1 John is being said in context to the last statement in verse 7. That the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin. These words are being spoken to new converts who do not yet have the fellowship that John speaks of with the Father and Son in verse 3. And Sin in verse 8 is a noun not a verb. Sin maybe in us tempting us. The noun maybe present. But if we assent, confess to the fact that it is a sin before it becomes a action God will cleanse us from it. To even further this point is the fact that verse 2:1 makes an exhortation that we sin not. If it were not possible that would be a confusing thing to say. And it also states that if we do sin, Not when we sin; put the noun into action that we have an advocate to the Father Jesus Christ our Lord. So there is still hope for if we do. We might always have sin present in our lives tempting us. But these text are extremely clear that we never have to put it to action. Because if we confess it He is Faithful to send it away (forgive) and cleanse us of all unrighteousness. The Greek word in verse 10 translated forgiveness doesn't mean forgiveness though it is translated that way most of the time. It means send away. If God forgives, he has separated. It is no longer part of us. And in Verse 10 the word sin is a verb but it is in the past tense not present. Remember John is speaking to those whom do not yet have the fellowship with the Father and the Son. If the verse would imply that we could not live without sinning then verse 2:1 exhortation not to sin would not make sense either. And to make matters worse one would have to ignore chapter three also. Where it states that those who abideth in Him sinneth not. Please keep in mind we are speaking of willful transgression not accidents when we get caught up in the moment and act out without thinking. For he that knows to do good and does it not. To him it is sin. Have faith for God is faithful and will not suffer us to be tempted above that which we are able to bare; but with the temptation give us a way to escape. For it is He that works in us both to will and do His good pleasure. In this He has given us all things that pertain to life and godliness and we are more than conquers.
G863 ἀφίημι aphiemi (a-fiy'-ee-miy) v.
1. to send away (from something near).
2. (by implication) to allow, to give leave.
3. (also) to forgive (i.e. send away guilt).
{in various applications (as follow)}
[from G575 and hiemi “to send” (an intensive form of eimi “to go”)]
KJV: cry, forgive, forsake, lay aside, leave, let (alone, be, go, have), omit, put (send) away, remit, suffer, yield up
Root(s): G575
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(2Tim 3:2 [KJV])
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
(2Tim 3:3 [KJV])
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
(2Tim 3:4 [KJV])
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
(2Tim 3:5 [KJV])
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
(2Tim 3:6 [KJV])
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
(1Cor 10:13 [KJV])
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
(1John 3:6 [KJV])
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
(1John 3:7 [KJV])
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
(1John 3:8 [KJV])
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
(1John 3:9 [KJV])
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
(1John 3:10 [KJV])
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
(1John 2:1 [KJV])
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
(1John 1:3 [KJV])
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
(1John 1:4 [KJV])
And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
(1John 1:5 [KJV])
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
(1John 1:6 [KJV])
If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
(1John 1:7 [KJV])
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
(1John 1:8 [KJV])
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
(1John 1:9 [KJV])
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
(1John 1:10 [KJV])
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
Understanding the context and grammar is extremely important here in these verse. We can't have fellowship with the Father and Son and Walk in darkness. If we are walking in the light, as He is in the light, The blood of Jesus cleanses us of all sin. If we are cleansed of all sin we will have no sin left. All is all. First and foremost verse 1:8 in 1 John is being said in context to the last statement in verse 7. That the blood of Jesus cleanses us from all sin. These words are being spoken to new converts who do not yet have the fellowship that John speaks of with the Father and Son in verse 3. And Sin in verse 8 is a noun not a verb. Sin maybe in us tempting us. The noun maybe present. But if we assent, confess to the fact that it is a sin before it becomes a action God will cleanse us from it. To even further this point is the fact that verse 2:1 makes an exhortation that we sin not. If it were not possible that would be a confusing thing to say. And it also states that if we do sin, Not when we sin; put the noun into action that we have an advocate to the Father Jesus Christ our Lord. So there is still hope for if we do. We might always have sin present in our lives tempting us. But these text are extremely clear that we never have to put it to action. Because if we confess it He is Faithful to send it away (forgive) and cleanse us of all unrighteousness. The Greek word in verse 10 translated forgiveness doesn't mean forgiveness though it is translated that way most of the time. It means send away. If God forgives, he has separated. It is no longer part of us. And in Verse 10 the word sin is a verb but it is in the past tense not present. Remember John is speaking to those whom do not yet have the fellowship with the Father and the Son. If the verse would imply that we could not live without sinning then verse 2:1 exhortation not to sin would not make sense either. And to make matters worse one would have to ignore chapter three also. Where it states that those who abideth in Him sinneth not. Please keep in mind we are speaking of willful transgression not accidents when we get caught up in the moment and act out without thinking. For he that knows to do good and does it not. To him it is sin. Have faith for God is faithful and will not suffer us to be tempted above that which we are able to bare; but with the temptation give us a way to escape. For it is He that works in us both to will and do His good pleasure. In this He has given us all things that pertain to life and godliness and we are more than conquers.
G863 ἀφίημι aphiemi (a-fiy'-ee-miy) v.
1. to send away (from something near).
2. (by implication) to allow, to give leave.
3. (also) to forgive (i.e. send away guilt).
{in various applications (as follow)}
[from G575 and hiemi “to send” (an intensive form of eimi “to go”)]
KJV: cry, forgive, forsake, lay aside, leave, let (alone, be, go, have), omit, put (send) away, remit, suffer, yield up
Root(s): G575
[?]
(2Tim 3:2 [KJV])
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
(2Tim 3:3 [KJV])
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
(2Tim 3:4 [KJV])
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
(2Tim 3:5 [KJV])
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
(2Tim 3:6 [KJV])
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
(1Cor 10:13 [KJV])
There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
(1John 3:6 [KJV])
Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
(1John 3:7 [KJV])
Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.
(1John 3:8 [KJV])
He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
(1John 3:9 [KJV])
Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
(1John 3:10 [KJV])
In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.
(1John 2:1 [KJV])
My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
(1John 1:3 [KJV])
That which we have seen and heard declare we unto you, that ye also may have fellowship with us: and truly our fellowship is with the Father, and with his Son Jesus Christ.
(1John 1:4 [KJV])
And these things write we unto you, that your joy may be full.
(1John 1:5 [KJV])
This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
(1John 1:6 [KJV])
If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
(1John 1:7 [KJV])
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
(1John 1:8 [KJV])
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
(1John 1:9 [KJV])
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
(1John 1:10 [KJV])
If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.
